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kgp

kgp

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Ok, RIU. I think I am going to do a little pollen chucking. As you know, the girls scout cookies is the new thing, and if you havent had them, you would probably think its a fad. Thats what I thought too, until I tried them. I was lucky enough to score a forum cut.

This is a fun topic and looking to hear opinions. This is going to be my first attempt at doing this besides chucking pollen from random males on small buds of females in bloom. This would be a cross that I would buy myself. And most important... Im doing it for myself, for amusement.

My favorite smoke of all times is og kush. I have several different cuts and wanted to know RIU opinion. Id be using colodrial silver or something else to make one of my females herm and hitting my girl scout cookies cut with the pollen.

GSC x FACEOFF OG cdubs cut a decent yielding fuel funk to the max. To me its a very heady OG. Hits you like a punch in the fore head. I would name the cross (COOKIE FACE)

GSC x Yeti OG Loompas headband bx. Decent yeilding og thats smells like nail poish. SUper sedative in effect. Mix of body and head that sometimes is too much for me. I would name the cross (ABOMINABLE COOKIE MONSTER)

GSC x SFV OG Probably one of the best cuts out there. Yeilds a little less the others, but has the classic og-pinesol flavor that one will never forget. I would call this cross (VALLEY GIRL COOKIES)

GCS x WHITE FIRE OG A big yeilding super frosty pheno, a little deeper and earthier tasting than the others. And I havent thought about what I would call it if I did do it. LOL

Im sure they all will all be similar, which one catches your interest the most?
 
OGEvilgenius

OGEvilgenius

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Face off is my vote. I like the sativa leaners though. Might be best to just do one of all of them and sell em as Rainbow Cookies.
 
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Bear Country

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I like the GCS X White Fire OG....I think that would be super!! I have the White Fire OG genetics....love that smoke. Many people think that the "white" in that cross is from the White Widow family but not so. The White in this cross is a Cali Sativa...not exactly sure of its family tree but I know for sure it is not the White Widow. Nice golf ball OG type nuggets and quite stinky to!!! One of my favorite OG crosses!
 
Jogro

Jogro

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"White girl on fire". . .

My concern here is that all of the above are themselves unstable hybrids, and all of the crosses you describe will probably throw out a lot of different phenos. Its likely that some of them will throw off hermie-prone offspring, too.

I certainly wouldn't say not to try this, I'm just saying you should probably come into it with limited expectations. The chance of you coming up with individual offspring that have the absolutely "best of both worlds" from each parent is pretty minimal. Do enough of these types of crosses, and you'll find some interesting plants for sure, but realistically, you should probably expect that the majority of the offspring won't be as good as EITHER parent. That's what happens when you're starting with absolutely exceptional rare pheno type parents, and why just making crosses isn't really "breeding". Its just not that easy.

To answer the actual question, personally, I'd do the GSC x SFVOG, but that's mostly because of the high intrinsic quality of the SFV. If you love the taste/flavor of OG, that's probably the one you want, right?

Anyway, which one(s) you should do depends on what exactly you're after. I'd say think about what traits you like the most, then pick the parents with those particular traits.

If you really wanted to go "nuts" you could reverse the GSC then hit EACH of the other "clone onlys" with GSC pollen. I don't think it makes any genetic difference which parent is which, especially if they're being created with fem'd pollen, so if you've already got all five cuts handy, there you go.

Also, no matter which one(s) you ultimately reverse, I'd say if you're already doing the work of making some fem'd pollen, you should make some S1s too (eg GSC x GSC or SFVOG x SFVOG, etc). GSC S1s may not be all that great, but that doesn't stop "breeders" from charging >$100 a pack for these. S1s of the other OGs are probably pretty decent in their own right, and again, there are a bunch of beans on the market that are basically just these.
 
texin

texin

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I have not come by the GSC yet. So I am not sure which one I would cross her with. I would use a male plant instead of the silver on a female. Seems like a lot of hermies come up this way. Very nice selection you have
 
kgp

kgp

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Jogro - why didn't I think of that. I'm not really doing this for any purpose. But to create some beans to grow between cuttings. And a couple cuts I don't share with many people. S1's would be great. Shit look at dr greenthumb. Most of his popular strains are s1's.

I know this is not breeding. I don't have the time or room to do real breeding, and I've said before, I'm never ordering seeds again. This will be entertaining and fun. I'll give the s1's to friends and observe what works and what doesn't. They get free ceeds and s1's of some very nice cuts.

Or maybe 1 of each cut and a fan blowing like crazy. Like a bunch of little bastard seeds who don't know who their fathers are. Lol

Cookie faced white yetis from the valley of fire
 
Jogro

Jogro

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kgp said:
Jogro - why didn't I think of that. I'm not really doing this for any purpose. But to create some beans to grow between cuttings. And a couple cuts I don't share with many people. S1's would be great. Shit look at dr greenthumb. Most of his popular strains are s1's.
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Trying to be self-sufficient when it somes to beans sounds like a pretty good purpose to me.

Whether or not S1s are any good depends pretty highly on what you're starting with, but in some cases you can get good results, especially if you're willing to do some selection from a number of the S1s to find a good individual pheno.

Or maybe 1 of each cut and a fan blowing like crazy. Like a bunch of little bastard seeds who don't know who their fathers are. Lol
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Spraying down everything with your reversal agent and running what amounts to an open pollinization is probably the easiest thing to do from a working standpoint, but IMO you don't want to do it.

If you're working with 5 different cuts, in theory you could have 25 different crosses, including S1s. With so many, chances are pretty high that one (or more) of these will be noticeably better than others. A few of the crosses may be really good, and you'll probably have some turkeys too.

If you do what amounts to an open pollenization using all of these, then not only will you not be able to tell which beans are which, but assuming any of the crosses turn out really well, you won't be able to identify those beans later, either.
 
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Bear Country

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Jogro said:
Trying to be self-sufficient when it somes to beans sounds like a pretty good purpose to me.

Whether or not S1s are any good depends pretty highly on what you're starting with, but in some cases you can get good results, especially if you're willing to do some selection from a number of the S1s to find a good individual pheno.


Spraying down everything with your reversal agent and running what amounts to an open pollinization is probably the easiest thing to do from a working standpoint, but IMO you don't want to do it.

If you're working with 5 different cuts, in theory you could have 25 different crosses, including S1s. With so many, chances are pretty high that one (or more) of these will be noticeably better than others. A few of the crosses may be really good, and you'll probably have some turkeys too.

If you do what amounts to an open pollenization using all of these, then not only will you not be able to tell which beans are which, but assuming any of the crosses turn out really well, you won't be able to identify those beans later, either.
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Arn't Dr Greenthumbs ceeds S1's...at least some of them?? I read allot of good reports on his S1's. I know his prices are super high but the reports on his work is for the most part really good. Asking that because of your comment on S1 ceeds.
 
Jogro

Jogro

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Bear Country said:
Arn't Dr Greenthumbs ceeds S1's...at least some of them?? I read allot of good reports on his S1's. I know his prices are super high but the reports on his work is for the most part really good. Asking that because of your comment on S1 ceeds.
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Yes, some of his lines are S1s.

Haven't grown any, so I can't comment on their quality, but I'd assume they're on a par with everyone elses S1s. . .which is to say you should expect to see pheno variation in the offspring, with most offspring having SOME traits of the original parent "clone only" plant, but only rare individual S1 plants being highly similar to the original.

In other words, contrary to what some would have you believe, in almost all relevant cases S1s are emphatically NOT the same as clones in se-ed form. Still, if you "must" have a particular name "clone only" line, and can't source a cut of the original, these are probably a reasonable alternative, especially if you're willing to do some selection to find a good individual plant for future cloning.

Its a bit of a separate issue/question, but IMO because of ready availability of most of the clone only cuts in medical friendly states, and because of the simplicity of creating them (eg no actual "breeding" is required) S1 beans of most clone only lines "should" be dirt cheap in this day and age.
 
greenghost420

greenghost420

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Im about to try with cannaventures flaming cookies, so far so good. Well see how the f2s look soon... Its all about the selection.
 
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