Total Noob using teas and I am a believer

hyroot

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Alfalfa is just plant roids lol...and SST. I dropped the kelp and molasses a little and added ProTekt, aloe, and coconut water.
imo you don't need pro tekt if using aloe. Aloe has plenty of silica. Kelp is awesome. It improves everything. So don't drop kelp.
 

Mad Hamish

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Just got more nutes, reupped on fishbone meal, kelp meal, and Oyster shell flour, oh and greensand. Then I finally purchased my first bag of earthworm castings, I am excited to try em and hope to make my own soon, then picked up a bigass bag of quano, so I have a question for everyone, what do yall think of veganics? I have all the stuff to do a grow but not many good vids on youtube. I love going shopping I have to go but cloning stuff this weekend. I focus on one thing at a time. Soil is complete now.
All my plants are vegans. I don't use bone or blood meal. Ok this run I am using some fish emulsion on my herb but I think now I figured out the dose for the organic pellets I am using I won't need it much any longer. Fish emulsion is cool for 'loading' a soil. Its got everything and can't burn plants so if I run into a deficiency I can feed one bloody strong feed and all is good again. I will go dig for some pics for you of totally vegan plants, I've cleaned up my pic folders on line a bit...
 

May11th

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Hell yeah hamish. I love fish emulsion. I love organics, I have so many dry amendmends built up its stupid. Sad part is I want more.

Super soil ppl, when you run your ss how long do you run before you have to use a tea, I have approximately 160 gallons cooking now and will keep to build new combos to experiment but in smaller portions. I did a whole batch of ss and my god it took up alot of time . Stinky as a mofo too. Smells like some nasty crusty vagina.

Also I didnt use a base w added nutes so I was wondering on older plants if I could throw them into this mix 100% or have to run a base still. Its juat spagnum peatmoss and perlite then everything on his list minus rock phosphate and blood meal, I used feather meal instead, I dont like blood or bone meal unless its fish bone meal.
 

RedCarpetMatches

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All my plants are vegans. I don't use bone or blood meal. Ok this run I am using some fish emulsion on my herb but I think now I figured out the dose for the organic pellets I am using I won't need it much any longer. Fish emulsion is cool for 'loading' a soil. Its got everything and can't burn plants so if I run into a deficiency I can feed one bloody strong feed and all is good again. I will go dig for some pics for you of totally vegan plants, I've cleaned up my pic folders on line a bit...
What about fish bone meal?
 

st0wandgrow

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Hell yeah hamish. I love fish emulsion. I love organics, I have so many dry amendmends built up its stupid. Sad part is I want more.

Super soil ppl, when you run your ss how long do you run before you have to use a tea, I have approximately 160 gallons cooking now and will keep to build new combos to experiment but in smaller portions. I did a whole batch of ss and my god it took up alot of time . Stinky as a mofo too. Smells like some nasty crusty vagina.

Also I didnt use a base w added nutes so I was wondering on older plants if I could throw them into this mix 100% or have to run a base still. Its juat spagnum peatmoss and perlite then everything on his list minus rock phosphate and blood meal, I used feather meal instead, I dont like blood or bone meal unless its fish bone meal.

This was already covered May. 2 tablespoons of Vagisil per cf of base will clear that stank right up for you.

Haven't you been taking notes??
 

GandalfdaGreen

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The official organic sex thread has now come to session. I like it. If the public education system was this much fun we'd all be doctors or something. ;-)
 

Mad Hamish

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What about fish bone meal?
Not available in the gool old Banana Republic Of South Africa.

Hell yeah hamish. I love fish emulsion. I love organics, I have so many dry amendmends built up its stupid. Sad part is I want more.

Super soil ppl, when you run your ss how long do you run before you have to use a tea, I have approximately 160 gallons cooking now and will keep to build new combos to experiment but in smaller portions. I did a whole batch of ss and my god it took up alot of time . Stinky as a mofo too. Smells like some nasty crusty vagina.

Also I didnt use a base w added nutes so I was wondering on older plants if I could throw them into this mix 100% or have to run a base still. Its juat spagnum peatmoss and perlite then everything on his list minus rock phosphate and blood meal, I used feather meal instead, I dont like blood or bone meal unless its fish bone meal.
ROFL... That's all the ammonia nitrogen there buddy! Make yourself a Lacto B serum and innoculate. It will convert all that ammonia N into nitrates and the smell will disappear. Lacto B is nature's work horse!
 

Mad Hamish

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This was already covered May. 2 tablespoons of Vagisil per cf of base will clear that stank right up for you.

Haven't you been taking notes??
Funny you say that... Vagisil WOULD actually work. Also contains Lacto Bacilli. When you take/apply probiotics, it is basically lactic acid bacteria that you are using. But there are cheaper ways:

Get a bowl, fill 1/4 with brown rice, fill to 1/4 under rim with fresh water. Let stand for 3 days till it goes milky/ has a smell, then strain. Add the WATER to 1/2 gallon milk and let stand (a seperatory funnel comes in handy here) for a few days, until curds separate and a yellow liquid remains at the bottom. The yellow liquid is a pure Lacto B serum.

Get rid of curds, keep the liquid. Dilute 1:20 and apply as drench, foliar to beat down PM and other nasties etc.

Left over serum can be diluted 1:1 with a 3:1 BSO:Water solution. Store at room temp. Use dilute serum also at 1:20, the bacteria will multiply in there for a few days. Keeps fresh for about 1-3 weeks before fermentation kicks in.
 

st0wandgrow

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I'm going to do a bit of a controlled test coming up in a few weeks. I'm going to take 8 clones from the same mother plant, and change the variables for each plant for an entire life cycle. As it stands I am using the following things on my plants: ACT's, Nutrient teas (mainly alfalfa/kelp), SST's, Fulvic Acid, Pro-tekt, and aloe. The test will be conducted as follows....

- Plant 1 will not get any ACT's
- Plant 2 will not get any Nutrient teas
- Plant 3 will not get any SST's
- Plant 4 will not get any Fulvic acid
- Plant 5 will not get any Pro-tekt
- Plant 6 will not get any aloe
- Plant 7 will get everything per my regular watering/feeding schedule
- Plant 8 will get nothing but water

Each of these plants will be in the same amended soil, and will get a top dress of something like Espoma Garden-Tone around the end of week 3 to week 4 of flower. It's not exactly a proper controlled scientific study, but I'd like to see if there's any discernible difference between the plants when it's all said and done. I question at times exactly what some of these items do for our plants (if anything). Any other controls or variables that I'm missing feel free to school me. I'll probably start a new thread so that I'm not mucking up Gandalfs thread with actual talk about marijuana plants. I wouldn't want to distract anyone from all of the vagina talk and other important topics we've strayed off to. :-)
 

Javadog

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I'm going to do a bit of a controlled test coming up in a few weeks. I'm going to take 8 clones from the same mother plant, and change the variables for each plant for an entire life cycle. As it stands I am using the following things on my plants: ACT's, Nutrient teas (mainly alfalfa/kelp), SST's, Fulvic Acid, Pro-tekt, and aloe. The test will be conducted as follows....

- Plant 1 will not get any ACT's
- Plant 2 will not get any Nutrient teas
- Plant 3 will not get any SST's
- Plant 4 will not get any Fulvic acid
- Plant 5 will not get any Pro-tekt
- Plant 6 will not get any aloe
- Plant 7 will get everything per my regular watering/feeding schedule
- Plant 8 will get nothing but water

Each of these plants will be in the same amended soil, and will get a top dress of something like Espoma Garden-Tone around the end of week 3 to week 4 of flower. It's not exactly a proper controlled scientific study, but I'd like to see if there's any discernible difference between the plants when it's all said and done. I question at times exactly what some of these items do for our plants (if anything). Any other controls or variables that I'm missing feel free to school me. I'll probably start a new thread so that I'm not mucking up Gandalfs thread with actual talk about marijuana plants. I wouldn't want to distract anyone from all of the vagina talk and other important topics we've strayed off to. :-)
Awesome!

Thanks for sharing.

JD
 

Trousers

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I'm going to do a bit of a controlled test coming up in a few weeks. I'm going to take 8 clones from the same mother plant, and change the variables for each plant for an entire life cycle. As it stands I am using the following things on my plants: ACT's, Nutrient teas (mainly alfalfa/kelp), SST's, Fulvic Acid, Pro-tekt, and aloe. The test will be conducted as follows....

- Plant 1 will not get any ACT's
- Plant 2 will not get any Nutrient teas
- Plant 3 will not get any SST's
- Plant 4 will not get any Fulvic acid
- Plant 5 will not get any Pro-tekt
- Plant 6 will not get any aloe
- Plant 7 will get everything per my regular watering/feeding schedule
- Plant 8 will get nothing but water

Each of these plants will be in the same amended soil, and will get a top dress of something like Espoma Garden-Tone around the end of week 3 to week 4 of flower. It's not exactly a proper controlled scientific study, but I'd like to see if there's any discernible difference between the plants when it's all said and done. I question at times exactly what some of these items do for our plants (if anything). Any other controls or variables that I'm missing feel free to school me. I'll probably start a new thread so that I'm not mucking up Gandalfs thread with actual talk about marijuana plants. I wouldn't want to distract anyone from all of the vagina talk and other important topics we've strayed off to. :-)
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to st0wandgrow again.


You are the fucking man. I love you
(in a generic, internet kind of way)

I can not wait to see your thread.

Time for a beer.



 

GandalfdaGreen

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I'm going to do a bit of a controlled test coming up in a few weeks. I'm going to take 8 clones from the same mother plant, and change the variables for each plant for an entire life cycle. As it stands I am using the following things on my plants: ACT's, Nutrient teas (mainly alfalfa/kelp), SST's, Fulvic Acid, Pro-tekt, and aloe. The test will be conducted as follows....

- Plant 1 will not get any ACT's
- Plant 2 will not get any Nutrient teas
- Plant 3 will not get any SST's
- Plant 4 will not get any Fulvic acid
- Plant 5 will not get any Pro-tekt
- Plant 6 will not get any aloe
- Plant 7 will get everything per my regular watering/feeding schedule
- Plant 8 will get nothing but water

Each of these plants will be in the same amended soil, and will get a top dress of something like Espoma Garden-Tone around the end of week 3 to week 4 of flower. It's not exactly a proper controlled scientific study, but I'd like to see if there's any discernible difference between the plants when it's all said and done. I question at times exactly what some of these items do for our plants (if anything). Any other controls or variables that I'm missing feel free to school me. I'll probably start a new thread so that I'm not mucking up Gandalfs thread with actual talk about marijuana plants. I wouldn't want to distract anyone from all of the vagina talk and other important topics we've strayed off to. :-)
Subbed. This thread is all of ours. I am really anxious to see the results.
 
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