Dutch Masters Gold One Nutes – underfeeding plants

[Brokeoldbloke]

Anyone use or have experience with Gold One which is billed as a 1 part complete nute. I decided to try it in place of my powdered nutes since it would be easier to mix.

I started at 1/4 strength but because of pale green leaf color quickly ramped it up to full strength by the end of week 1. Saw only a slight improvement in color by end of week 2 so I fed with my powder nutes yesterday and had a noticeable improvement today. The plants seem healthy other than the pale color.

The NPK of the Grow is 1-.7-3. Why so low in N and high in K? The Flower formula is also weird to at 2-1-3. I’m switching to the Flower nute tomorrow and will see if that will carry me through veg/flower. Not sure why a company would pick these ratios for a nute line.

 

[Brokeoldbloke]

Switched to the the Flower formula, still feeding daily, color hasn't improve since my powder feed but the plants aren't getting lighter either. The plants seem to be growing well with no other deficiencies. At the end of week 3 I'll ramp up to 125% of full strength and see if that will work. Dutch Master is a weird company, they must be ashamed of their NPK ratios because nowhere on their website does it show or tell NPK information for any of their products.

 

[hugetom80s]

Experiences like this are what turned me off Dutch Masters and single part nutrients in general.

Hopefully things will work out for you.
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[Brokeoldbloke]

Thanks,
DM Gold One is some weak highly diluted stuff with a weird NPK ratio. I gave up on the Grow formula and started running Flower at 125% in week 3 of veg. Still looks like I could use a little more N but no other problems. I'm going to pick up a Bloom formula from a 3-part line to supplement PK during flower.
So much for Gold One being "Simply One Of The Best Single Part Nutrients Available Today!" LoL What a crock.

 

[PetFlora]

I pissed away a lot of money on full line of 1 liter V + F bottles DM Gold. Decent results, then I bought 4 liter jug of ONE, which simplified life but I was unhappy with any liquid nutes, as I was paying to ship mostly water, and I have a $1700 RO at the ready.

On IC I found a KISS thread by Netpot, his results are consistently awesome. I got a starter pack and did a side-by-side, and have been using hydroponic-research V+B ever since

Not quite 30 days from first pistils, slowly ramped up from 1000-12000, and now 1500ppms

 

[Brokeoldbloke]

PetFlora,
How well does V+B dissolve? The reason I tried DM was because the powdered nutes I had wouldn't fully dissolve without hot water.

 

[PetFlora]

Using proper mixing technique is essential. I use a paint paddle to circulate the water while slowly adding the dry powder. If you just toss a teaspoon+ of dry powder in at one time, it will instantly clump

I always get a few grains that settle out but NBD.

PetFlora,
How well does V+B dissolve? The reason I tried DM was because the powdered nutes I had wouldn't fully dissolve without hot water.

 

[Brokeoldbloke]

Using proper mixing technique is essential........ If you just toss a teaspoon+ of dry powder in at one time, it will instantly clump

You described my mixing technique perfectly. LoL.

 

[big bud 56]

Are you using that led for just side growth?
If so,what are you using for top growth?
Just curious since I have an led that I'm not using.

I pissed away a lot of money on full line of 1 liter V + F bottles DM Gold. Decent results, then I bought 4 liter jug of ONE, which simplified life but I was unhappy with any liquid nutes, as I was paying to ship mostly water, and I have a $1700 RO at the ready.

On IC I found a KISS thread by Netpot, his results are consistently awesome. I got a starter pack and did a side-by-side, and have been using hydroponic-research V+B ever since

Not quite 30 days from first pistils, slowly ramped up from 1000-12000, and now 1500ppms

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[PetFlora]

Visit my thread (see signature) to learn and follow along

Are you using that led for just side growth?
If so,what are you using for top growth?
Just curious since I have an led that I'm not using.

 

[big bud 56]

Never mind dude.
If you can't take the time to answer a simple question then I don't need to play games

Visit my thread (see signature) to learn and follow along

 

[PetFlora]

WOW. Your questions have nothing to do with this thread, and so I do the right thing and refer you where you can get the answers and this is your response? Just fucking WOW

Never mind dude.
If you can't take the time to answer a simple question then I don't need to play games

 

[big bud 56]

I see people doing that all the time and it's never a big deal to just simply answer someone's question.
It's called respect and you have to give respect in order to get respect.
I always try to answer peoples questions no matter what since I'm the type of person that likes helping other people.
All you had to do was answer yes or no to the question.
Sorry if that was too difficult for you to do.

WOW. Your questions have nothing to do with this thread, and so I do the right thing and refer you where you can get the answers and this is your response? Just fucking WOW

 

[PetFlora]

I'll let others decide which of us is right. Hope to not see your lazy ass in my threads.

I see people doing that all the time and it's never a big deal to just simply answer someone's question.
It's called respect and you have to give respect in order to get respect.
I always try to answer peoples questions no matter what since I'm the type of person that likes helping other people.
All you had to do was answer yes or no to the question.
Sorry if that was too difficult for you to do.