Cali Connections and Swerve Swervin stealing pics from smaller breeders!

Thecouchlock

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The video was taken down and the picture of Blue Dream Haze has been removed, the evidence is being destroyed showing how swerve uses the bait n switch tactic to sell his sub par gear. Sorry guys nothing to see here run along now.
 

Thecouchlock

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picture is now taken down. Do you guys really wanna support this?? the guy is telling you a lie about one thing he could be faking all his shit.
 

wdk420

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I couldn't get this video to play so what is going on? I always wondered what was to stop them from faking pictures and selling mid grade quality seeds. Also what is the correlation between stolen pictures and Gizz Granny. I have noticed they took off about 3-4 Cali connection pics.

Edit: Plus they always Photoshop pics too so obvious and it really turns me off of brands.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
it's funny you act like swerve or tcc are the first to do this..

i forget all what breeders and strains they were as it's been quite awhile, but on the tude, more than one breeder was using the same exact pix for their gear..
nothing new here really imvho..
 

Thecouchlock

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He just describes that his picture is only on one site on the internet and then it pops up under his blue dream haze and then swerve got all butthurt on facebook talking about how everyone else does it. Then he went and cried to youtube and attitude so they changed the pic within minutes.
 

Thecouchlock

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it's funny you act like swerve or tcc are the first to do this..

i forget all what breeders and strains they were as it's been quite awhile, but on the tude, more than one breeder was using the same exact pix for their gear..
nothing new here really imvho..
For someone who sits on facebook every day and says how bad ass his shit is and to use someone elses pic of an entirely different strain is very misleading. He is a top seller he should have some decency.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
He just describes that his picture is only on one site on the internet and then it pops up under his blue dream haze and then swerve got all butthurt on facebook talking about how everyone else does it. Then he went and cried to youtube and attitude so they changed the pic within minutes.
huh........
 

Thecouchlock

Well-Known Member
huh........
In the video

Dude says this here is my picture of MY GENETICS, then shows you the link on ATTITUDE and it shows HIS picture as Cali Connections Blue Dream Haze. He is a small breeder who was trying to get his genetics on to the attitude and was like wtf thats my Black Cauldron thats not BDH. So he called out Swerve and then within an hour all the stuff is all gone and covered up. Pretty sad they closed the case just as fast as it was opened. Now no one has to know about his shitty bait n switch.

After all this was talked about politely with swerve he went on a little tantrum on facebook, then a few minutes later everything was deleted.
 

Bad Karma

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Swerve is a habitual liar.
He does not test his gear before releasing it, he's lies about the lineage of his gear (GSC), and now he's stealing pictures from other breeders.
If I didn't know better, I would think Matt Riot and Swerve were the same person.
 

GreatwhiteNorth

Global Moderator
Staff member
If you look at the various seed banks, often you can find the same bud shots used for different strains.
Exact same pic.

That's what makes most people part with their money - a pic & a flowery description.
 

Thecouchlock

Well-Known Member
That is the only reason I am posting it, so you know that it isn't what he says it is. When you buy something from sannies your getting exactly what the picture shows. As a consumer I expect to get what I see.
 

Jogro

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Swerve is a habitual liar.
He does not test his gear before releasing it, he's lies about the lineage of his gear (GSC), and now he's stealing pictures from other breeders.
If I didn't know better, I would think Matt Riot and Swerve were the same person.
Apparently, the two hate each other. Can't imagine why. . .they're both such upstanding guys.

Another case where I hate the ethics but some of the gear is probably worth investing in.
Personally, I try to avoid doing business with recognized scam artists whenever possible. Its not just to avoid getting scammed, but also to ensure that my money doesn't help keep them in business.

From a practical standpoint as a se-ed consumer, I simply don't see any reason to support scammers either. Nobody has a monopoly on great genetics nowadays, and there are plenty of ethical breeders out there selling absolutely great lines who are upfront about what they have. Some of them are small "up and comers" who can really use the dollar support, too.

If you look at the various seed banks, often you can find the same bud shots used for different strains.
Well, that's an interesting issue. First of all, let me say that no, they don't "all" do it. Some of the breeders are very careful to take all their own pictures, and post them on their respective sites.

If its the SEEDBANK using the same generic picture for multiple lines, that doesn't necessarily reflect on the breeder or the strain in question. That said, though, I'd like to think that breeders are aware of how their beans are being marketed, and if they aren't, they should be. I can tell you that if I were selling beans commercially, I'd be aware if some seedbank were slapping a misleading image on my lines, and I'd make sure to correct that issue.

If a breeder deliberately puts up a stolen image, so far as I am concerned, they go on my "black list". There are several problems there:

If a breeder is stealing someone else's pictures and calling them their own, you can be damn sure they're also lying about other stuff related to their lines, such as yields, potency, flowering times, and maybe even pedigree. Even making simple F1 crosses still takes 6 months time to do the cross then test them properly. If they're too lazy to take pictures of their own lines after breeding them and putting them up for commercial sale, then for sure they're taking shortcuts in the actual breeding process too.

I mean really, how hard it is to take a few decent shots for marketing purposes? There are 20 growers posting images of their plants every day on this website, and most of them aren't trying to make a living selling beans! Its not like this is so difficult; nowadays, you can take excellent quality images using just a cell phone!

If a breeder really needs to put up someone else's picture, that means at BEST that they've never grown own the line they're offering for sale, meaning they expect the buying public to do their line testing for them. At worst it means that after having grown out the lines they're selling, they've decided that the plants in question don't look good enough to be worth taking a picture of!
 

OGEvilgenius

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You raise some reasonable points as usual Jogro, but in this game you sometimes have to go with what's proven. There's a lot of hacks out there.
 

CoreyATX420

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how is this a seed or strain review? this is sheeps talk. if you were in the know on anything youd feel no need to make a thread. peace
 

dubcoastOGs

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I buy my cereal based on the name, and buy my weed based on the 200x300 pixel jpeg posted on the internet.

Fuck your pictures, who gives a shit.
 

Jogro

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You raise some reasonable points as usual Jogro, but in this game you sometimes have to go with what's proven. There's a lot of hacks out there.
Of course.

This depends a little bit on your ability to make numbers, budget, and desire to take chances, but I think lots of growers are up against serious plant count limits and/or budgetary constraints and need to be highly selective about what they take on in terms of genetics.

My point is that the marketplace for se-eds is saturated right now and includes plenty of excellent proven lines from a number of reputable breeders. You know this. In fact, purely by numbers, there are probably more excellent genetics on the market now then ever before. Consequently, nobody "has" to patronize any particular seller/breeder because you can find top notch stuff from any number of others now.

So if Breeder X is a BS artist or otherwise rubs me the wrong way, I don't really care if most of his lines are fire; I'm going to take my business elsewhere to one of 5 or 10 other more ethical breeders that can offer me the same fire with a higher level of trust.

Again, the fact is nobody has a unique "magic" line that I "must" have, especially not guys who are starting with the same "elite clones" that every other breeder is working with. For any particular line type that I might want, I can probably find functionally similar genetics from a number of different sources.
 

Jogro

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how is this a seed or strain review? this is sheeps talk. if you were in the know on anything youd feel no need to make a thread. peace
Its a review of "Blue Dream haze".

Here's the review: Chances are, if you grow this, your plant will NOT look like this picture!
 

Thecouchlock

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Its not even shit talking, its spreading knowledge that if you buy this product you will get something different then from what is advertised. You wouldn't be let down if your plants came out completely different from the pictures? I mean completely?
 
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