Thoughts on HSO Blue Dream?
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I've got a nice hso bd finishing right now, will post pics later. Great smell, GREAT yield and structure. It's my second run with it due to quality BUT..it is not as good as the blue dream I had in Vegas which was from the Cali clone. The real deal is memorable and reminds you of why you strain hunt. I had hoped the hso version was it..but it's not. I wouldn't kick it out of bed for eating cookies though
skunkd0c
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clone only selections originate from seed , they were selected and kept as clones because of desirable traits in the opinion of the keeper
folk who buy into the scam then believe that ALL seed plants are inferior to this holy grail clone only selection
for example, cheese is a hyped up strain in the UK i first grew cheese about 12 years ago, its ok, but you can find just as good and better in quite a few skunk / blues strains from seed with a bit of pheno selection this is my experience anyway
newbies that have invested in this type of clone only hype will not believe it is possible to find a skunk#1 as good as the cheese clone, since they like to believe they have something special or unique
i find this silly, since all plants will be unique to some degree unless they are clones
i guess the clone only hype reminds me of the hipster philosophy of liking something because its cool or popular, rather than because you actually like it, but each to their own
as long as folk are happy with their plants, clone or seed its all good
peace
PJ Diaz
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To me it's more about consistency. With true "clone only strains" (or whatever) you know exactly what you're getting. Seeds are somewhat of a capshoot. That's not to say that seeds can't produce a higher quality crop than the clone only, but you won't know for several weeks.
In the case of Blue Dream, it truely was a clone only for a few years and literally thousands of pounds of crop from that same clone were grown in California before seeds were produced by a few different companies separate from the original breeder. Some of these seeds produced, marketed, and sold aren't even from the original genetics, but they just slapped a name tag on a similar BB/Haze type strain. It's the tail wagging the dog.
I haven't grown Blue Dream because I was never super thrilled on it. I could get a clone of the legit cut tomorrow. I don't need to worry about being cool. But if I do buy a cut of BD, I want to know that I'm getting the real deal, and not end up disappointed several weeks later.
TrichomeBob
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Some folks are right about blowing clones outta proportion, as u can g as good or better from seed hunting. But if you've smoked something that helps for a medical reason or u just like it, clones are useful.
for instance, say blue dream (proper clone version) had medicinal effects for me no other strain gave me, so I want to grow this, I order hso blue dream, thinking its the same but after growing it out it doesn't do anything.
this is what I don't agree with, strains should only be called blue dream, if its somehow derived from the original, otherwise is just tryna con you, otherwise why not invent ur own name for it. To me it's no different from buying sme grey goose and drinking it and it being some cheap shit. No different, in fact the weed side is worse cos its took 3 months of growing or more.
as far as the guy saying the cheese isn't all that, that's because it's not the original exodus cheese, I've kept a clone of it for nearly 10 years and I've never found a 'cheese' strain to compare to it and ive prob grown 100s if not 1000s of seeds. If u bought cheese in seed form it is nothing like my clone. I've had other so called exodus clones that haven't been, so u never really know.
clones have there purpose, but I also not saying clones are better than seeds, clones started from seed in the first place. But if u can trust the source of your clones you can guarantee an outcome, something u can't get with seeds, wether they S1s or whatever.
Bob.
for instance, say blue dream (proper clone version) had medicinal effects for me no other strain gave me, so I want to grow this, I order hso blue dream, thinking its the same but after growing it out it doesn't do anything.
this is what I don't agree with, strains should only be called blue dream, if its somehow derived from the original, otherwise is just tryna con you, otherwise why not invent ur own name for it. To me it's no different from buying sme grey goose and drinking it and it being some cheap shit. No different, in fact the weed side is worse cos its took 3 months of growing or more.
as far as the guy saying the cheese isn't all that, that's because it's not the original exodus cheese, I've kept a clone of it for nearly 10 years and I've never found a 'cheese' strain to compare to it and ive prob grown 100s if not 1000s of seeds. If u bought cheese in seed form it is nothing like my clone. I've had other so called exodus clones that haven't been, so u never really know.
clones have there purpose, but I also not saying clones are better than seeds, clones started from seed in the first place. But if u can trust the source of your clones you can guarantee an outcome, something u can't get with seeds, wether they S1s or whatever.
Bob.
TrichomeBob
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Also with clone only strains, take exodus cheese for a instance, this was a plant grown about 20 years ago, Im not sure where the genetics of the skunk #1 were from, but just say it was Sensi seeds stock or they acquired it, the Skunk 1 they sell now is not like the one they sold 15-20 years ago, doubt its even the same as the ones u bought 5 years ago.
with all the generations that go by and inbreeding that gets done, the gene pool gets more and more smaller as they try to lockin the characteristics they desire.
with all the generations that go by and inbreeding that gets done, the gene pool gets more and more smaller as they try to lockin the characteristics they desire.
bass1014
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ok so i have had blue dream for a few grows now and i have seen it dodifferent thins during each grow. states that it is a indica sativa, the growth looks like sativa and flowers like an indica. so the choice is yours,BUT i do recommend great not good but great airflow because the blue dream is gotten mold on the top cola's where the main and secondary buds start.. it always seems to get it there vs anywhere else on the plant.. buds are big heavy and tight. smell is a factor so carbon filter is a must. i grow mine in a dwc buckets and use gh nutes with kool bloom and a grape or pineapple nector for final flushing,
so hso is no good because u neglected ur plants???sounds like a shit opinion to me lolJust finished a grow of HSO trainwreck, I would be personally weary of buying HSO seeds again. Their trainwreck is supposed to be an Cali cut (forget the origin) and is supposed to be a very sativa dominant phenotype. Literally all 4 of my trainwrecks were all indica doms, not signs of hybridization of any sativa. Sadly those girls got PM and budrot whilst I was on the mainland visiting family. Sad day, but I was able to salvage at least 60%, and those nugs are rock hard.
I think their are better varieties of blue dream strains out their, which is just seems like a blueberry crossed with big bud. Good luck on your choices, just keep your two cents about this breeder. Aloha
rarebreed619
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I picked up a 3 pack of hso bd from the tude popped one bean and it looks to be sativa, has very thin leaves.
ThegrowerMOJO
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Don't give two shits what that article says,he got that strain in Indiana in the late 70's article even says it was an indica brought to his attention by cali growers huh wonder where it just popped up from. same with bubblegum .
Pepe le skunk
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Not sure about HSO's version but the clone I have is very powdery mildew resistant. It has sativa leaves but the buds fillout and the yield is great. Like an indica.
Oh and whoever in Indiana is pulling the bubblegum and other strains you deserve high praise for your work.
Cheers
Oh and whoever in Indiana is pulling the bubblegum and other strains you deserve high praise for your work.
Cheers
greenboiii420
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I know a grower who currently is running this in his setup. High is pretty strong and long lasting. Smells good, but not very strong like a diesel when its dry. Smoke tastes good and punches you in the lungs. Dense nugs. Not sure if it is HSO's Blue Dream though.
Me and a friend were following my friend that grows it driving down the road and smelt it when he fired it up
Me and a friend were following my friend that grows it driving down the road and smelt it when he fired it up
MrEDuck
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I haven't had my clone exposed to PM but she's generally a very hardy plant. Apparently spidermites adore her though. They'll abandon other plants to attack her. Which can help with getting rid of them.
And she is a huge yielder and the smoke is very good. Not top shelf but certainly A- or better.
OGEvilgenius
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One trick for plants susceptible to botrytis that guys who grow outdoors on Vancouver Island have found is that spraying beneficials (tarantula was what they were using but something similar or homemade should do just fine) helps combat the mold significantly. They out compete for nutrients. I can't say I've tried it myself, but I know a couple people who do this. One guy growing a Jack Herer that I know used to have a problem with it until he started spraying later in flower.
hso bluedream has many phenos, one is very white and resinous looks like indica dominant with a slight berry spice smell, the 2nd pheno is a very spicey haze with no berry smell which leans on the sativa side and it has more vigor in vegative, the most special and 3rd pheno i ever found was a silver/blue tinted with a blueberry lemon smell and it tasted of berry haze - produced very dense buds about the size of golfballs and was highly resinous and had superior vigor in vegative taking after a indica dominant look, yeild on all 3 phenos are relatively the same, the 3rd pheno the best, the 2nd sativa spice haze, and the least yielding was the pheno #1 but it makes up for looks and produces white hash
urban1026835
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I have a 5ft tree in a 2gal smart pot that looks more like a straight haze plant than anything.
Huge dreadlocked colas that smell like burnt tires.
It is starting week 9 tomorrow but is gonna take at least 70 days to finish..
I will chime back in with pics when shes done and post up a smoke report.
Huge dreadlocked colas that smell like burnt tires.
It is starting week 9 tomorrow but is gonna take at least 70 days to finish..
I will chime back in with pics when shes done and post up a smoke report.
DustyNugs
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I scored a cut of HSO Blue Dream from the Cannabis Cup here in Denver. Can't remember which dispensary it was though I remember they were from Boulder. Took me a while to get her growing, but she's definitely a highly sativa leaning pheno. I'll get a picture up sometime. Looking forward to flowering it out. Like someone else mentioned I'm just looking for something special, not the clone only obviously. Hopefully they were bringing their best offerings to the Cup, got their DeathStar and Sour Diesel as well.
CareStaker
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Growing one from seed. Excellent vigor and structure so far.
