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ChesusRice

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When illegals are caught sneaking in to Mexico from the south and they are very lucky they will only be
severely beaten. Raping and/or killing apprehended illegals is very commonplace in Mexico.

Now if we could just get Cheezies ignorant ass to sneak over....
Lol
Im not afraid of brown people like you are. And I have no need to sneak over I can walk over legally, Get a visa while I am there and then apply for citizenship whenever I want.

I agree with you, Our immigration law should be the same as Mexicos. And we should have the same laws in regards to birth right citizenship as Mexico as well.
 

Dr Kynes

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That's not true, hasn't been true for 20 years. For the most part, Mexico lets them get all the way to the US. Increasingly however, Mexico is the destination sought by the immigrants.
i guess this was too subtle for you.

or is this one of those times you adopt an indefensible position and childishly repeat your slogan despite all evidence to the contrary?

TAPACHULA, Mexico, June 11 — Quiet as it is kept in political circles, Mexico, so much the focus of the United States' immigration debate, has its own set of immigration problems. And as elected officials from President Vicente Fox on down denounce Washington's plans to deploy troops and build more walls along the United States border, Mexico has begun a re-examination of its own policies and prejudices.
Here at Mexico's own southern edge, Guatemalans cross legally and illegally to do jobs that Mexicans departing for the north no longer want. And hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants from nearly two dozen other countries, including China, Ecuador, Cuba and Somalia, pass through on their way to the United States.
Dense jungle makes establishing an effective law enforcement presence along the line impossible. Crossing the border is often as easy as hopping a fence or rafting for 10 minutes. But, under pressure from the United States, Mexico has steadily increased checkpoints along highways at the border including several posts with military forces.
The Mexican authorities report that detentions and deportations have risen in the past four years by an estimated 74 percent, to 240,000, nearly half along the southern border. But they acknowledged there had also been a boom in immigrant smuggling and increased incidents of abuses and attacks by corrupt law enforcement officials, vigilantes and bandits. Meanwhile, the waves of migrants continue to grow.
Few politicians have made public speeches about such matters. But Deputy Foreign Minister Gerónimo Gutiérrez recently acknowledged that Mexico's immigration laws were "tougher than those being contemplated by the United States," where the authorities caught 1.5 million people illegally crossing the Mexican border last year. He spoke before a congressional panel to discuss "Mexico in the Face of the Migratory Phenomenon."
~ http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/18/wo...anted=all&_r=0


2006, NOT 1986.

Muy Facile
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
Post the NY times article again Kynes, twice is clearly not enough. A boom in people smuggling and increased incidence of abuses and attacks by corrupt law enforcement officials, vigilantes and bandits, even if acknowledge by the deputy foreign minister, is hardly the same as what he said. Thus my retort to him, that such has not been commonplace in two decades, does not require your NY times link.

You can link it again though if you must. I really don't care if mouth breathing teabillies are afraid to come to Mexico.
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
Here is an article from NY times about Merica. Scary thing is, this doesn't include immigrants, who are mostly deported. This is 1% of the population (citizens) who are imprisoned at taxpayer expense.

[h=1]1 in 100 U.S. Adults Behind Bars[/h]
February 28, 2008

For the first time in the nation’s history, more than one in 100 American adults is behind bars, according to a new report.

Nationwide, the prison population grew by 25,000 last year, bringing it to almost 1.6 million. Another 723,000 people are in local jails. The number of American adults is about 230 million, meaning that one in every 99.1 adults is behind bars.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/28cnd-prison.html?_r=0
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Post the NY times article again Kynes, twice is clearly not enough. A boom in people smuggling and increased incidence of abuses and attacks by corrupt law enforcement officials, vigilantes and bandits, even if acknowledge by the deputy foreign minister, is hardly the same as what he said. Thus my retort to him, that such has not been commonplace in two decades, does not require your NY times link.

You can link it again though if you must. I really don't care if mouth breathing teabillies are afraid to come to Mexico.
are YOU seriously trying to call me out for repeating something? YOU !!!???

mexico's southern border is an armed camp, they dont want guatties swarming across their border any more than we want mexicans swarming ours.

further, the mexican government is encouraging mestisos to cross the border to the USA, while pushing for a eugenicist racial ideal in mexico.
by eliminating the mestisos they believe they can create the imaginary european nation they portray themselves as on Telemundo.
 

nitro harley

Well-Known Member
i guess this was too subtle for you.

or is this one of those times you adopt an indefensible position and childishly repeat your slogan despite all evidence to the contrary?

TAPACHULA, Mexico, June 11 — Quiet as it is kept in political circles, Mexico, so much the focus of the United States' immigration debate, has its own set of immigration problems. And as elected officials from President Vicente Fox on down denounce Washington's plans to deploy troops and build more walls along the United States border, Mexico has begun a re-examination of its own policies and prejudices.
Here at Mexico's own southern edge, Guatemalans cross legally and illegally to do jobs that Mexicans departing for the north no longer want. And hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants from nearly two dozen other countries, including China, Ecuador, Cuba and Somalia, pass through on their way to the United States.
Dense jungle makes establishing an effective law enforcement presence along the line impossible. Crossing the border is often as easy as hopping a fence or rafting for 10 minutes. But, under pressure from the United States, Mexico has steadily increased checkpoints along highways at the border including several posts with military forces.
The Mexican authorities report that detentions and deportations have risen in the past four years by an estimated 74 percent, to 240,000, nearly half along the southern border. But they acknowledged there had also been a boom in immigrant smuggling and increased incidents of abuses and attacks by corrupt law enforcement officials, vigilantes and bandits. Meanwhile, the waves of migrants continue to grow.
Few politicians have made public speeches about such matters. But Deputy Foreign Minister Gerónimo Gutiérrez recently acknowledged that Mexico's immigration laws were "tougher than those being contemplated by the United States," where the authorities caught 1.5 million people illegally crossing the Mexican border last year. He spoke before a congressional panel to discuss "Mexico in the Face of the Migratory Phenomenon."
~ http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/18/wo...anted=all&_r=0


2006, NOT 1986.

Muy Facile
This should be talked about daily..We should do what Mexico does on there southern border and keep it simple....Then Mexico can take all the credit for knowing whats best for immigrants...I would vote for that...
 

abandonconflict

Well-Known Member
are YOU seriously trying to call me out for repeating something? YOU !!!???

mexico's southern border is an armed camp, they dont want guatties swarming across their border any more than we want mexicans swarming ours.

further, the mexican government is encouraging mestisos to cross the border to the USA, while pushing for a eugenicist racial ideal in mexico.
by eliminating the mestisos they believe they can create the imaginary european nation they portray themselves as on Telemundo.
Wrong. Also offensive. If you want people to stop calling you a bigot, stop using offensive words to refer to them.

Despite Mexico's population being around 115 million people, the majority of immigrants arriving in the US via the Mexican border actually come from Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala despite that the combined population of these nations is 28 million. This is compounded by the fact that the majority of Mexican immigrants do not stay in the US for more than a period of weeks. I know they all look the same to you, but try and keep up. Also bear in mind that almost half of the US territory was stolen from Mexico and all of it was stolen from a native population of over 80 million people, so you're the interloper.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Question:
What is the worlds longest unsecured Border?

Answer:
Canada/United States

Why all the focus on the brown people from the south?
 

nitro harley

Well-Known Member
Question:
What is the worlds longest unsecured Border?

Answer:
Canada/United States

Why all the focus on the brown people from the south?
CheezyO the Clan Man....

We should do what the brown people do when they decide to build a fence....They don't fuck around...Viva southern Mexico....
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
No shit...It must be a good one...
It wasnt designed to stop people. They really dont give a shit too much about the illegals, they need them to pick their crops (go figure) and they are passing thru. The fence everyone is yammering about blocks off a major route of contraband and is designed to funnel people thru a border checkpoint. It dont work for shit. The Southern Mexico border is 541 miles long. The Mexicans charge the illegals 1.50 to use a zip line that goes underneath a bridge where they built that wall.

So do you want to be like Mexico?
 

nitro harley

Well-Known Member
It wasnt designed to stop people. They really dont give a shit too much about the illegals, they need them to pick their crops (go figure) and they are passing thru. The fence everyone is yammering about blocks off a major route of contraband and is designed to funnel people thru a border checkpoint. It dont work for shit. The Southern Mexico border is 541 miles long. The Mexicans charge the illegals 1.50 to use a zip line that goes underneath a bridge where they built that wall.

So do you want to be like Mexico?
We are becoming more like Mexico everyday....You need to go out for dinner and pay attention...
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Question:
What is the worlds longest unsecured Border?

Answer:
Canada/United States

Why all the focus on the brown people from the south?
because pissy pouty miss kynes needs someone to blame his failures in life on, and canadians don't pick crops.
 
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