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should i fim or top? i'm doing a vert. cylindrical scrog. i want to limit the stress on the plant. so is it worth it? i have topped before but never fimed. i have three plants ready to go.
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i'm really lookinginto what's best for the plants. i want to do one of the two either top of fim.
Erysichthon
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i fimmed my plant then, had it lst'd a bit too. carefull with the fimm. i cut mine a bit low on one side and ended up with one small cola and 3 big ones. heres pic of the wee limb and the cola compared to the other about 8 days ago. its the little bud in the middle. right in center of pic
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hmmmmm? well i am going to lst cuz i'm doing a v'scrog cylinder style. but will topping or fiming produce more weight or does the plants put out as much without topping or fimming?
Seamaiden
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I'm using the FIM technique at the moment with my LSTd plants. However, I must also trim down in order that the plant will equally feed all cola sites. I'll try to find my thread where antipythium gave quite the extensive answer on how LST affects the plant and budding sites.
https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/81863-question-lst-progresses.html
I've been having camera issues so have been unable to post updated photos in my gallery.
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well i know that every time you cut a plant it takes time out from growing to repair itself. so is it worth it to cut it. i don't need massive plants i just want to do what is easy on them but productive to me.
Seamaiden
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Not exactly. And this is not quite true with other plants, so why would it be so with marijuana? Often judicious pruning actually spurs faster growth, I've seen it with some of my houseplants, many outside garden plants, and some vegetables. Personally, I want to gain the greatest yield I can, so I'm taking the time to FIM and LST. I've got enough plants that I have been able to experiment with just the FIMing. Randomly select, FIM half. What I saw was that over 80% of the FIMd plants showed markedly better growth two weeks after FIMing, and I still see the same thing. To that end, I ultimately decided all will be FIMd.
Pruning at the right time is not as traumatic as many people seem to think.
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hey seamaiden. . . i read the post by antipythium. . . . i suggest everyone reads it. i will lst antipythium's way for one plant ( and i think this is the way to go) but i have two others. i will try to fim one and then top the last one, then lst it the way antipythium suggests. we will soon see.
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when is the right time? 5 nodes?
Seamaiden
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Was that not an EXCELLENT post? A lot to chew on. I've been forced to remove a good bit of leaf from several plants due to pests. As they recover I will reassess the situation, but with some plants I know I'm going to have to do some thinning so they don't waste energy on growing useless branches that will ultimately be removed anyway.
Oh yeah! Also, in regard to antipythium's post, I have topped some side branches to help ensure equal height. One thing for sure, s/he wasn't kidding when s/he said that LST is labor intensive. I can spend almost a whole afternoon working on it (of course, it doesn't help that I'm doing it to over two dozen plants).
Oh yeah! Also, in regard to antipythium's post, I have topped some side branches to help ensure equal height. One thing for sure, s/he wasn't kidding when s/he said that LST is labor intensive. I can spend almost a whole afternoon working on it (of course, it doesn't help that I'm doing it to over two dozen plants).
Seamaiden
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Hold on.. lemme check my grow notes and calendar... ok?
Seamaiden
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Yeah, I think that looks to be it. I didn't note number of nodes when I began LST. Guess I know for next time!
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i heard 5 nodes somewhere on here and took note. my plants are toddlers so they have a bit. i have started lst-ing but only the first bend.
napalesegrizzly23
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I topped one of my plants and FIM'ed another one. The topped one is doing much better than the FIM one. The FIM took way longer to heal probably 5 days before the new shoots started growing. It made 5 tops, and the very top one is still only like 2 inches tall and its been close to 3 weeks but the other 4 are now 3 nodes and 5 inches tall. Topped one is like 5 nodes and 9 inches.
Personally I like plain old topping. LST is probably the best for limited space and the new branches recieve good light.
Personally I like plain old topping. LST is probably the best for limited space and the new branches recieve good light.
Seamaiden
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Ok, maybe this is related to strain/variety. The plants that I've done this with are an unidentified bag seed, but I'm pretty sure they're an Indica strain. What are you growing, and under what conditions?
When I FIMd the last time the response in some plants was as fast as 1/2 hour, I swear to God. I went back and one plant had grown half the FIM back and I thought I fucked it up, so I FIMd it again (one set of leaves had grown 1/2"), and by that evening it was growing out again. Each plant has had a different response time from FIMing, so I think there's an 'issue' with the timing of the thing. I wish I knew more so I could sort it out in my head.