Total Noob using teas and I am a believer

May11th

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Redcarpet, jackass haha. im having trouble finding time to attend my garden but temps are at a range of 60-70 and plants are doing great, my blueberries stretched out and are getting very bushy and my carmelo is really getting hairy, I think I may get the biggeat yield I have ever got yet with one of the 3 carmelos I have going. They all are very similar, I can see it being a 10 -12 week flowering strain, im at week 6 and she is showing some yellowing and looks like the soil isnt doing so great, I have clones coming up 4 weeks behind that all are in better soil and they got trained alot better with a 3 month veg time, their roots look great and they are in 3-4 gallon pots .

I have a question, has anyone transplanted in the first week of flower and would you advise against it? I have smart pots and grow bags that I think are a ton better than nursery pots. I recently made up 200 gallons of flower soil and 120 of veg, 30 of seedling, im trying to get more going so I will have a shit ton on recycled, amended soil that has been cooking for 6 month to a year. Lowes sells 100 gallon containers for 8 bucks so I got 10 of them lol
 

st0wandgrow

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Redcarpet, jackass haha. im having trouble finding time to attend my garden but temps are at a range of 60-70 and plants are doing great, my blueberries stretched out and are getting very bushy and my carmelo is really getting hairy, I think I may get the biggeat yield I have ever got yet with one of the 3 carmelos I have going. They all are very similar, I can see it being a 10 -12 week flowering strain, im at week 6 and she is showing some yellowing and looks like the soil isnt doing so great, I have clones coming up 4 weeks behind that all are in better soil and they got trained alot better with a 3 month veg time, their roots look great and they are in 3-4 gallon pots .

I have a question, has anyone transplanted in the first week of flower and would you advise against it? I have smart pots and grow bags that I think are a ton better than nursery pots. I recently made up 200 gallons of flower soil and 120 of veg, 30 of seedling, im trying to get more going so I will have a shit ton on recycled, amended soil that has been cooking for 6 month to a year. Lowes sells 100 gallon containers for 8 bucks so I got 10 of them lol
I have not, but many people advise against it. The theory being that the plants energy will be refocused to root growth instead of foliage and bud-site production.
 

May11th

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Thank you. Hey everyone I been running a somewhat local pruduct called organically done out of franklin, michigan and was trying to get feedback for I cant find anything on the net. I have a large list of amendments now lol
 

Steelheader3430

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Jeeez that sounds DANK. If it smells like ammonia that would be a problem but sour sharpness just sounds incredibly DANK.
No ammonia smell. Just astringent as you described one of your LVBK'S

yeah its normal. 2 of my 3 NL og phenos and the old school master kush I had causes my eyes to water to. I think it may have something to do with stronger potency and ratios of thc, cbd, cbg, cbn.

let us know if when first smoke after a little cure your mouth goes a little numb. Mine does from those same strains.
My wife says it doesn't make her mouth go numb or taste funny. She says it just taste's like weed. lol She has been spoiled. She's never even seen dirt weed, much less smoked any. I grew up in So. Cal. and smoked shit loads of really bad weed. We used to get the original diesel. The stuff brought over in truck's fuel tanks from Mexico. Once my buddy got a 1/4 lb that was the shape of a shoe sole. Fun times.

Thanks for getting back to me guys.
 

May11th

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No teas yet, I have ran coco before with no issues but yeah they look horrible. One of my best mothers is 5 months old In coco and top dressed w fox farm soil conditioner and its doing great, I run teas through it too. I never checked ph or ec as I dont own the equipment to do so. I may go get some peat moss to add to all my straight coco bins . Stuff seems finicky for me.
 

Mad Hamish

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No teas yet, I have ran coco before with no issues but yeah they look horrible. One of my best mothers is 5 months old In coco and top dressed w fox farm soil conditioner and its doing great, I run teas through it too. I never checked ph or ec as I dont own the equipment to do so. I may go get some peat moss to add to all my straight coco bins . Stuff seems finicky for me.
Yeah it can tread a pretty fine line. See if you can get some pH testing strips from the drugstore, they're pretty cheap. I'm willing to wager if you test the run off it will come out below 5.5. I had this exact same problem a while ago. Coco has zero buffering capacity so pH can go on this rampant rise/fall. Flushing the stuff takes forever too. But you really do have to measure the run off, that's the big trick with coco grows. If pH or EC test differently running out than going in, that's how you tell you've got a problem inside the bag. Not like any hydro I've run before that stuff.
 

Trousers

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I know a dispensary grower and they use coco and organic teas with no bottled nutes.
They have a giant tea brewer that runs constantly. They get very good yields, or so he says. The weed is pretty good.
Like most dispensaries they do not cure properly so I couldn't get a good handle on what organic coco is like.
 

RedCarpetMatches

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I don't know how the hell you grew in coco without a descent PH meter. Was it organic or DTW? Sorry bout your girls May. I'd try flushing with PH'd water of 5.8 with a light veg/Calmag solution. Gotta have a PH pen with coco.
 

GandalfdaGreen

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Don't feel too bad May. We all run into shitstorms growing. It's part of the game. It's always something. :eyesmoke:

I would mix FFHF into the coco. Add some ewcs and perlite too. This is the base mix for the Rev.
 

Mad Hamish

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Don't feel too bad May. We all run into shitstorms growing. It's part of the game. It's always something. :eyesmoke:

I would mix FFHF into the coco. Add some ewcs and perlite too. This is the base mix for the Rev.
Coco works really nicely in soil mixes I must say. And I have cut soil with coco just before planting too (I was a bit short, whoops) and the plants in those pots actually got going a lot faster too. SHOE on the gage forums also told me they are experimenting with more coco in their mixes to get larger yields out of smaller pots. On it's own, I can't say I like the stuff all that much. I did however get it PERFECT, right before I made the full switch to LOS. Trick is to treat it like hydro, but feed it like soil.
I got badass results keeping pH at 6.1 to 6.2 for every watering, my mix was FAST draining, 50/50 fibres and croutons no pyth with about 1/4 of it perlite. I fed at an EC of 1.5, then two pure pH'd waters when needed, then one with a bit of CaMg+ and nothing else, then feed at EC of 1.5, repeat. The stuff holds and builds salts like nobody's business. I found out recently that it is that exact quality of it that makes it one of the main things used in cleaning up chemical spills. I never knew that.
It really does kick ass in soil mixes.
 

GandalfdaGreen

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Here is my latest shitstorm. This is so May knows he's not alone.

I always run my veg room at 24/0. I thought I would cut the hours to 19/5 about ten days ago. My Engineers' Dream phenos must be very photsensitive because they are looking to be going into bloom. I switched things back to 24/0 the minute I noticed this. I also cut a bunch of clones of each pheno just in case I could not revert the plants to veg. I am cool with not using the plants for clones until the spring, so I will wait them out. I am thinking it may take 2 months to straighten them out. I can't overestimate the love I have for these phenos.

Anyone ever run into this? I took clones of the lowers which were not showing any pre flowers or beginning of budsets. What do you guys think are the chances of these reverting back to veg? I am brewing a tea that is intended for the veg cycle and will use it tomorrow night. :wall:

The point to be learned here is to always slowly alter such light cycles.
 

hyroot

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Some strains are like that. Blackberry OG out of Humby will flower in18/6. It has to be kept at least at 20/4 to stay at veg.. Maybe something in the breeding process..
 

hyroot

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Do you think it will revert back since it was only a week and a half?
Yeah it should. You might see some 1 finger leaves and 3 finger leaves (juvenile leaves) for 2-4 weeks. Usually takes about 30 days to be in full veg from flowering 12/12. In your case it may be quicker than that.
 
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