I hate dumb people

James Bond

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I don't care if you are infantry there Sally. The skills you say you poses would be more along the lines of a Seal or Green Burray(sp). Just so you know for you to have that much room to grow in woods narrows your grow opp to four specific locations I have found based on the information you have given already. If you are in North Eastern Ohio I think I can find them just because of what I have researched on google earth. You must have just come out of your training because no one has knocked you down a step yet. I honestly have a hard time believing what you say about your military status and you have already given to much information for me to believe you can do a stealth operation in the woods.
 

metsystem

Active Member
Here are the basic steps of classic mind control:
Isolation: You have to remove the person from his or her support group. This ith the first critical part of building the dependence necessary for breaking down psychological defenses. This is removal from family, firends, and normal support systems. The military does this in basic training. It can also be done at a resort or facility. The key is - no normal contact with support systems.

Control of Communications: The next thing must be control of all communications; this is a continuation of the isolation process. All communications with others will be controlled and handled by the handlers. This can be as obvious as what happens in millitary basic training, or as subtle as having breaks spread out and shortened so it is hard to make contact and communicate with anyone outside of the group. This also starts to build dependence upon the handlers. You must go through them for any communications - outside the group or inside. You see this in groups that do not allow open communications within the group and restrain communications with those outside the group. This is greatly amplified in our constant communication age. We are so used to always being in contact. Loss of this, even for a while leads to distress. Informers are set up at this stage; the insider is the one who reports back to the trainers or handlers.
Fatigue: Physical fatigue adds to the effect of breaking down a person’s psychological strengths and defenses. You can do this through physical exercise and training (military) or just by starting early and going late in a high energy, fast pace setting (look at the indoctrination of any cult - i.e. David Koresh at Waco). As you get tired, you are easier to handle and “go along” with ideas much more smoothly.Control of Food, Water and Rest: The targeted individuals are made aware of the independence of the handlers (or trainers) for the timing of food and water breaks. Bathroom breaks can also be added to this to amplify the effect of loss of control. Timing of rest is also up to the trainers or handlers. This also leads to blood supar levels being off and it the mercy of the handlers. (in the old CIA and KGB material, tobacco was also used as means of control. For those of us who are old enough to remember when a majority of adults smoked, the withdrawal adds to intense feelings.) It can be as simple as in a ristrictive setting like the military or jails, or subtle like an intense seminar (fire walking).
Using the person’s own criticism against himself: Once the person is tired and possibly hungry, he begins to doubt his own judgement, thinking maybe they (the trainers) are right, or I am wrong, or both. This is amplified if the trainers have a biography on yo uso they know something about you. This is where they begin to used it. You may remember films where they use “inside information” to help turn the person. This is the reason they try to learn as much about their target as they can - so they can use it. You may also be aware of seminars that obtain information on your goals, hopes, and dreams and use that information to manipulate you later.
Bypass the resistance of the conscious mind: This can be done by hypnosis - both overtly, as in a guided meditation or hypnotic induction, or covertly, with the use of metaphor and stories. Other hypnotic processes may come into play. The main one is getting a highly charged emotional response (fire walk, the constant lull of marching in formation, board breark, breaking an addiction) and linking that to a desired response. A psychological breakthrough, real or imagined, can also be used. These emotional reactions are powerful tools. If they are used at night when you’re tired (and hungry), the effect is amplified. (This is where drugs would come into play in the old CIA literature.)
Friendliness and helpfulness of the trainers or handlers upset a person’s ability to maintain a critical attitude: This is especially true if you voluntarily have entered the process, because you are now vested in the situation. You will defend the ideas or concepts presented for the above reasons, and now your critical factores help justify the change and give credit to the trainers or handlers (or their ideas) for what went on in the process. Although you did the work, you think, “Everything I am I owe to …” This is very powerful for the emotional breakthroughss and reactions achieved in the process.
Surprise - the use of unexpected events or things: A day off, a special presentation, something that throws off the sense of ritual.

Pretty much cults for millions of years mainly the illuminati developed brain washing techniques that are extremely effective, secondly they are pros at reconditioning and reprogramming people to do things, say march in uniform formation for x number of miles then KILL on command with no questions asked. They break you in boot camp thats why its physically hard and they yell alot. then they train your mind to respond to them, your no longer a free individual with individual ideas, your one unit with there ideals. your life probably seems more chaotic now, thats because your away from your handlers and your programming is breaking down :)
 

brasmith

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ummmm.....maybe Sally gave up, or he could be doing his criminal justice studies, or maybe he is out looking for help for his disorders. Maybe his Handlers came and removed him from communicating with the outside world.
 

James Bond

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Your all wrong, he is looking up more silly sayings. He's already used up all the ones from Chikken Soup for the Over Confident Soul.
 

email468

Well-Known Member
Here are the basic steps of classic mind control:
Isolation: You have to remove the person from his or her support group. This ith the first critical part of building the dependence necessary for breaking down psychological defenses. This is removal from family, firends, and normal support systems. The military does this in basic training. It can also be done at a resort or facility. The key is - no normal contact with support systems.

Control of Communications: The next thing must be control of all communications; this is a continuation of the isolation process. All communications with others will be controlled and handled by the handlers. This can be as obvious as what happens in millitary basic training, or as subtle as having breaks spread out and shortened so it is hard to make contact and communicate with anyone outside of the group. This also starts to build dependence upon the handlers. You must go through them for any communications - outside the group or inside. You see this in groups that do not allow open communications within the group and restrain communications with those outside the group. This is greatly amplified in our constant communication age. We are so used to always being in contact. Loss of this, even for a while leads to distress. Informers are set up at this stage; the insider is the one who reports back to the trainers or handlers.
Fatigue: Physical fatigue adds to the effect of breaking down a person’s psychological strengths and defenses. You can do this through physical exercise and training (military) or just by starting early and going late in a high energy, fast pace setting (look at the indoctrination of any cult - i.e. David Koresh at Waco). As you get tired, you are easier to handle and “go along” with ideas much more smoothly.Control of Food, Water and Rest: The targeted individuals are made aware of the independence of the handlers (or trainers) for the timing of food and water breaks. Bathroom breaks can also be added to this to amplify the effect of loss of control. Timing of rest is also up to the trainers or handlers. This also leads to blood supar levels being off and it the mercy of the handlers. (in the old CIA and KGB material, tobacco was also used as means of control. For those of us who are old enough to remember when a majority of adults smoked, the withdrawal adds to intense feelings.) It can be as simple as in a ristrictive setting like the military or jails, or subtle like an intense seminar (fire walking).
Using the person’s own criticism against himself: Once the person is tired and possibly hungry, he begins to doubt his own judgement, thinking maybe they (the trainers) are right, or I am wrong, or both. This is amplified if the trainers have a biography on yo uso they know something about you. This is where they begin to used it. You may remember films where they use “inside information” to help turn the person. This is the reason they try to learn as much about their target as they can - so they can use it. You may also be aware of seminars that obtain information on your goals, hopes, and dreams and use that information to manipulate you later.
Bypass the resistance of the conscious mind: This can be done by hypnosis - both overtly, as in a guided meditation or hypnotic induction, or covertly, with the use of metaphor and stories. Other hypnotic processes may come into play. The main one is getting a highly charged emotional response (fire walk, the constant lull of marching in formation, board breark, breaking an addiction) and linking that to a desired response. A psychological breakthrough, real or imagined, can also be used. These emotional reactions are powerful tools. If they are used at night when you’re tired (and hungry), the effect is amplified. (This is where drugs would come into play in the old CIA literature.)
Friendliness and helpfulness of the trainers or handlers upset a person’s ability to maintain a critical attitude: This is especially true if you voluntarily have entered the process, because you are now vested in the situation. You will defend the ideas or concepts presented for the above reasons, and now your critical factores help justify the change and give credit to the trainers or handlers (or their ideas) for what went on in the process. Although you did the work, you think, “Everything I am I owe to …” This is very powerful for the emotional breakthroughss and reactions achieved in the process.
Surprise - the use of unexpected events or things: A day off, a special presentation, something that throws off the sense of ritual.

Pretty much cults for millions of years mainly the illuminati developed brain washing techniques that are extremely effective, secondly they are pros at reconditioning and reprogramming people to do things, say march in uniform formation for x number of miles then KILL on command with no questions asked. They break you in boot camp thats why its physically hard and they yell alot. then they train your mind to respond to them, your no longer a free individual with individual ideas, your one unit with there ideals. your life probably seems more chaotic now, thats because your away from your handlers and your programming is breaking down :)
yes, yes and yes. another method is 600 calories a day and daily beatings with a 2x4.
 

sallygreen

New Member
yes, yes and yes. another method is 600 calories a day and daily beatings with a 2x4.
Wow! Dude this is extremely Intersting. Your smarter than I have given you credit for. Either your smoking some potent ganga or have studied some vital form of mind munipulation. The Army does have there way of challenging and preparing you to succeed no matter how the odds are against you or what mission Is at hand. I't creates In you this self Image or ego that nothing Is Impossible to acheive. And In this case It's really no difference. I approach this mission the same as I would any other mission or assignment. I'm not built for failure and I'ts not something that I could easily just accept. I may highlight and do as others suggest: Learn from the failure; but I will never except defeat nor failure. And I'm not this overbearing brainwashed lunitic. I am a completely normal person with extreme determination and desire to succeed regardless the improbability.
 
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ganjagoddess

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Then WORK with these people to help you and stop acting a fool.

Jesus, I think you could start with an apology for approaching your "mission" like a moron, any well trained soldier is precise, intelligent, and planning.

not ranting, ignorant, and just plain stupid.

you write like your speaking outloud and your words come off as a child's would.

What is wrong with you?
 

email468

Well-Known Member
Wow! Dude this is extremely Intersting. Your smarter than I have given you credit for. Either your smoking some potent ganga or have studied some vital form of mind munipulation. The Army does have there way of challenging and preparing you to succeed no matter how the odds are against you or what mission Is at hand. I't creates In you this self Image or ego that nothing Is Impossible to acheive. And In this case It's really no difference. I approach this mission the same as I would any other mission or assignment. I'm not built for failure and I'ts not something that I could easily just accept. I may highlight and do as others suggest: Learn from the failure; but I will never except defeat nor failure. And I'm not this overbearing brainwashed lunitic. I am a completely normal person with extreme determination and desire to succeed regardless the improbability.
that's great. why are you telling me? i was commenting about brainwashing techniques.
 

blackout

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5350 lumens per square inch with mylar isn't enough? The sun gives off 10,000 lumens but not all the sunlight reaches the plant.
the sun is the best of all light sources ,regardless of how much h.i.d you have ,although this is from a place that has lots of sun.
i think you are being very optimistic in your expected yeild ,from indoor plants
the sun reaches alot more of the plant than any indoor system i have heard of,also i would hate to have your electric bill ,but hey if it works good on you ,good luck ,regardless with that much light you should get enough to keep you toking for a while.:peace:
 

metsystem

Active Member
.....why did you accept something then two seconds late 'except' it, i guess brain washing does work accept and defeat have to be at least two words apart to be used in the same sentence, it's like south park and nigger guy. on the topic of lumens, has any one built a mirror box with ONE plant so the lumens were alot higher then 10,000?
 

hyphyjoose

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I still like how no one has accepted the fact that Sally is a troll trying to get a rise out of people.. Christ this thread has gone on for 40 pages.. he got what he wanted--high exp on his vB stats.

 

sallygreen

New Member
Before we work on artificial intelligence why don't we do something about natural stupidity? Metsystem you have completely lost your brain or kool point's with me. Darn, a great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance. The trouble with this forum is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Guest who post here are farely wise and the rest are otherwise. Let's all start thinking before we post idiotic statement's. Remember you can be sincere and still be stupid!
 
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ganjagoddess

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Before we work on artificial intelligence why don't we do something about natural stupidity? Metsystem you have completely lost your brain or kool point's with me. Darn, a great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance. The trouble with this forum is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Guest who post here are farely wise and the rest are otherwise. Let's all start thinking before we post idiotic statement's. Remember you can be sincere and still be stupid!
You are describing yourself to a T.
 

fdd2blk

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Before I work on artificial intelligence why don't I do something about natural stupidity? I have completely lost my brain or kool point's with everyone. Darn, a great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance. The trouble with this forum is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Guest who post here are farely wise and the rest are otherwise. Let's all start thinking before we post idiotic statement's. Remember I can be sincere and still be stupid!


hehhehehheheheh :mrgreen:
 

Wikidbchofthewst

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Before we work on artificial intelligence why don't we do something about natural stupidity? Metsystem you have completely lost your brain or kool point's with me. Darn, a great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance. The trouble with this forum is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Guest who post here are farely wise and the rest are otherwise. Let's all start thinking before we post idiotic statement's. Remember you can be sincere and still be stupid!
I disapprove of that statement so much I had to neg rep you for it. But I signed it, so no one can say I hand out neg rep like a pussy.
 
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