Guns don't kill people, gun owners kill people.

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
You don't think that having a requirement for insurance, driving tests, licensing, and the like prevent accidents? Driving school doesn't teach people how to use a car properly? Did you do a practical test before you got your license showing proper proficciency with a vehicle? Where I live you have to do a separate motorcycle test too, to show you're not going to hop on and just kill yourself, or more importantly someone else.






Another reduction to absurdity. If you're going to bed, load your fucking gun, take the trigger lock off, and put it in your night table. When you get up and hav a shower the next day and get ready to go to work, disassemble it and put it in a safe. It's fucking easy you dolt. Stop being a fucking baby.



Victims of any type of violence should be cared about. But in your case you probably only care about white people.

That's why you put the * in right?






No one said handgun. You said handgun. Do you know a handgun that can shoot 2200 meters? I don't.

Barrett makes several rifles that are capable of accurately reaching further than that. Everyone knows the .50, but the .416 and .338 Lapua are also long range tack drivers. You can buy a 20mm Lahti in Taxas (probably other states too) for fuck sakes... they're accurate for miles and miles....

I'm not debating skill, I'm talking potential range of a readily available firearm. I load my own ammo, with a little practice I could load rounds better than Barrett, that would give me match grade accuracy.

What about people who routinely do class D comp shooting? I know guys that shoot at 1000m at least once a week, sans spotters, or USMC backgrounds. Pretty easy to run a laptop with Nightforce SW.... but I bet you already knew that.








Another argument from absurdity. You really suck at this whole 'communication thing'.

It is INSANELY easier to kill someone with a firearm than a knife. You have to be within arms distance of me, and I can run. Fuck fighting, you come at me with a knife I'm running if I'm unarmed. If I run and I'm unarmed and you have a gun, you just shoot me.

I bet this is the part where you claim to be John Rambo and can throw your Bear Grills Gerber Knife 200m @ 90mph with precision accuracy.






UGGGH It's not illegal. Who said I'm even American? Where I live overall length is the main factor, of which I am 0.25 inches longer (with the stock fully collapsed) than legally required to own my firearm without any legal issues.





People like you are so bigoted and conditioned in their thinking you're virtually incapable of rtational thought when it comes to issues like this. You just cover your ears and act like a three year old, kicking and screaming.






Another reduction to absurdity. You love those types of arguments, because you have no ground if you stick to the actual topic at hand. You have nothing to say about what I've actually said, so you create a false argument (waiting lines, special courses, lack of instructors) and argue that instead. You suck. Seriously, you're terrible at this. You're like the "Reggie Strickland" of debating. Might have to look that one up....





Another retarded argument from absurdity. You'll 'be dead'. Right. You go to pick up groceries, and someone breaks into your home and steals your firearms, do you drop dead in the produce isle at fucking Safeway, you retard?


You can do the same thing with a car, it's called insurance fraud and you'll probably get busted. Most people don't commit car insurance fraud, and most people wouldn't commit perjury and write a false police report just to sell their guns. Another argument to absurdity.

I don't even mean registration. How about a piece of paper that says you bought "a firearm", and a sig that says if it was your first bought from that store, that you did the 30 mins training session - on the spot.



If some crimes are avoided, that's fewer crimes happening than previously. If less crimes are happening than previously recorded, that's a reduction in crime. Stay with me here, I know this is complicated.
The only arguments you've presented have been Arguments to Absurdity, which don't even address the real issues because you've skewed them so far out of context and reality they're unrecognizable. Then there's your boring "SES" bigot-babble which pretty much everyone can see your Klan hood- popping out of that argument....

You didn't address the point I brought up at all. If people were better trained with firearms, and more onus was put on shopkeepers to provide info-sessions, or training, or whatever you want to call it, that at a minimum, less accidents would occur. Maybe the amount of murders and suicides would be exactly the same, I highly doubt it, but maybe they would. But carelessness, and accidents from lack of training can and would, be easily avoided.

Education is the key.



You forgot to say, "no running with scissors children if you want recess"!
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Only on shotguns with barrels around 18" or thereabouts if I remember correctly... Are you referring to back boring?
ok i think we gots a language barrier thing here, i dont speak Crocodile Dundee, so imma try and translate this into Steve Irwin:

Crikey, that shot gun has a barrel of 8.5 inches makin it bloody inaccurate, and totally random! loik a spittin cobra in me britches mate!

puttin a holosoyght on that piece of rubbish is loik swimmin with stingrays, It's just boody stoopid!

aind a Cylinder Bore is what them Yanks call a shotgun wifout any Choke on tha muzzel mate.

so it shoots an open spread rather than a toighter pattern.

hey look Bindy! hungry cocs! you get the loive chickens and oil stand here wif tha baby aind feed em!
 

UncleBuck

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I have that, but other suckers pay me to write. I'm pretty much Buck, but I don't lie to Uncle Sam and say my ill gotten monies was Christmas presents. So the punch line is on you. Btw, Walden was Thoreau. I posted two of my favorite Whitman poems for you.
writing for bitcoins like finshaggy?

not something to brag about.
 

echelon1k1

New Member
ok i think we gots a language barrier thing here, i dont speak Crocodile Dundee, so imma try and translate this into Steve Irwin:

Crikey, that shot gun has a barrel of 8.5 inches makin it bloody inaccurate, and totally random! loik a spittin cobra in me britches mate!

puttin a holosoyght on that piece of rubbish is loik swimmin with stingrays, It's just boody stoopid!

aind a Cylinder Bore is what them Yanks call a shotgun wifout any Choke on tha muzzel mate.

so it shoots an open spread rather than a toighter pattern.

hey look Bindy! hungry cocs! you get the loive chickens and oil stand here wif tha baby aind feed em!
Did I speak crocodile Dundee? I could try speaking netanyahoo if you'd like there chosen one?
 

UncleBuck

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my house is ALWAYS full of people, i live with 2 brothers, my nephews are usually here, and my mother is staying with us while her house is under construction, and i got a couple cousins who are in and out all the time.
you have no idea how much this explains.
 

echelon1k1

New Member
Come on now, what Doc wrote was hard core. Even if you don't agree.
half of the garbage he writes is "hardcore" for the wrong reasons; It can be summed up as "dey tek err jerrb"... But I understand it now putting a holo on what's basically a sawn off is as stupid as not paying your taxes on the farm you own...
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Did I speak crocodile Dundee? I could try speaking netanyahoo if you'd like there chosen one?
Ehh you Could Do Worse.



Maybe you just need a home cooked meal and some cocoa.

Always with the Chosen People you are fucking, what is this Mishegas?

Meh, it's a Shanda, ill say a prayer for you in temple maybe.
 

Canna Sylvan

Well-Known Member
half of the garbage he writes is "hardcore" for the wrong reasons; It can be summed up as "dey tek err jerrb"... But I understand it now putting a holo on what's basically a sawn off is as stupid as not paying your taxes on the farm you own...
You do realize you're his second favorite mark, besides Buck. He's trolling the fuck out of you.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
half of the garbage he writes is "hardcore" for the wrong reasons; It can be summed up as "dey tek err jerrb"... But I understand it now putting a holo on what's basically a sawn off is as stupid as not paying your taxes on the farm you own...
ahem. once again. the farm had no tax liability when my grandfather died, it did not even have a mortgage. then the Inheritance Tax (thats the Death Tax that took so many family farms in the 60's 70's 80's and 90's) came due. in order to inherit the property we had to pay a tax of more than 30% assessed on the "Market Value" not what it would sell for, so when we were forced to sell the property, it sold for FAR less than the assessed value (because we couldnt hold onto it till a buyer who would pay more came along)

in the end nearly every dime of the sale price was taken for the inheritance tax.

for somebody who pretends to be super smart you sure cant seem to grasp this simple concept.
 

echelon1k1

New Member
Ehh you Could Do Worse.



Maybe you just need a home cooked meal and some cocoa.

Always with the Chosen People you are fucking, what is this Mishegas?

Meh, it's a Shanda, ill say a prayer for you in temple maybe.
sorry bro kraft dinner with a side of roadkill is not what I consider a home cooked meal... But you'd know all about home "cooking"... You like baked dinners?
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
sorry bro kraft dinner with a side of roadkill is not what I consider a home cooked meal... But you'd know all about home "cooking"... You like baked dinners?
funny, i had a fresh greens salad (from my own garden), with mozzarella fresca, oilve oil, and quinoa, a chunk of roast chicken, rice pilaf and a pretty good IPA from a local micro for supper.

how'd you like your swansons TV dinner and a fosters lager in front of the telly?
 

echelon1k1

New Member
funny, i had a fresh greens salad (from my own garden), with mozzarella fresca, oilve oil, and quinoa, a chunk of roast chicken, rice pilaf and a pretty good IPA from a local micro for supper.

how'd you like your swansons TV dinner and a fosters lager in front of the telly?
LOL... Did you're mom make it for you? No such thing as swansons tv dinners here, I've never had a kraft dinner nor any type of roadkill... Since I was raised by wogs, I know what good food is so don't even try to compare your roadkill to the culinary delights a multicultural society brings... You sure you're not a mexijew?
 

Beefbisquit

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Considering that setup on that shotty was for plinking, (shooting targets, usually steel) using a holosight helps you acquire the target faster. Not to mention chokes don't affect slugs. Holosight + short shotty = Potential 25 yard slug machine.

There is absolutely no indication that this particular shotgun was intended for home defense.
 

Canna Sylvan

Well-Known Member
funny, i had a fresh greens salad (from my own garden), with mozzarella fresca, oilve oil, and quinoa, a chunk of roast chicken, rice pilaf and a pretty good IPA from a local micro for supper.

how'd you like your swansons TV dinner and a fosters lager in front of the telly?
All I had was a home made bean and cheese burrito with salsa, and a GT's kombucha.
 
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