I cant even believe im weighing in on this subject.I know growers that grow well in organics.that grow well in aero DWC using different products,different methods and are getting good results,
You know what i know good growers who use AN..Many of you all keep saying how expensive their products are.This is BS..Go price 5 gallons of DM A&B..Go price CYCO A&B..There base nute line up is really neither no more or less expensive than anyone else's line up.There jungle juice line up is CHEAPER BY FAR than GH.It flys off of the shelfs has the same NPK has the same mixture rate as GH just allot less expensive.Price the carb supplement from AN.cheaper than almost anyones.I use products based upon price and use several different companys products based upon my experience with the product.
You know the only piss poor growers i can think of off of hand..They are the ones who bitch and complain about the cost of growing good smoke.
Ive never seen one of you tight wad MFers ever grow good dope..why is that?
Those who fail to invest invest in failure.
No offense but that plant looks awful. Where did all your leaves go?You're crazy man. A 3-part of Jungle juice in small ass liters is about 55 bucks... I can buy GALLONS of Blue Planet Nutrients organic line, Farmer's Pride, for the exact same price. Not only does it outperform AN, but you can get about 4 times as much for the same price. Its a no brainer. I'll never go back to AN.
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That's because it doesn't exist. It's encumbent upon you to explain this hormonal imbalance you conjured up.I definitely know more than you...that's easy, as for your golden child Uncle Ben, he can't even tell us what a hormonal imbalance is...enough said...
Hormonal imbalance= When he quits taking his steroids and has a period on accident.That's because it doesn't exist. It's encumbent upon you to explain this hormonal imbalance you conjured up.
Got anything else?
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I actually have used several different companys products and still do.I know from purchasing that it is actually cheaper for their base nutes than MANY premium nute companys.Notice i didnt say all.Part A and Part B in 23 (6 gallons) litre jugs costs 270 bucks.Are you really that cheap that 270 dollars of anyones nutes if they worked for you would be out of your price range?You're crazy man. A 3-part of Jungle juice in small ass liters is about 55 bucks... I can buy GALLONS of Blue Planet Nutrients organic line, Farmer's Pride, for the exact same price. Not only does it outperform AN, but you can get about 4 times as much for the same price. Its a no brainer. I'll never go back to AN.
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My biggest expense is electricity, not nutrients. Just sayin.I actually have used several different companys products and still do.I know from purchasing that it is actually cheaper for their base nutes than MANY premium nute companys.Notice i didnt say all.Part A and Part B in 23 (6 gallons) litre jugs costs 270 bucks.Are you really that cheap that 270 dollars of anyones nutes if they worked for you would be out of your price range?
When i grew organic in dirt it was ALLOT LOT more expensive.Would a 100 dollar box of bat poop be to much?How about 100 bucks worth of blood meal?Bone meal anyone for 50 bucks?
How about some pre mixed dirt at 30 bucks a bag?Enough to maybe fill a pot or two?The fact of the matter is it costs money to grow
you sound like the guy who thought he was cool when he bought a Harley sportster, only to find out it's a girl's bike,lmfaoSo is all hydro for noobs? Or is it just AN users? are Dyno grow users noobs too?Its just NPK..right?If someone has good luck using what ever nutes they prefer to use what difference does it make?Is GH for noobs too? or is it just shultz and MG all the way?
Right now im thinkin you guys just have a hard on for AN..for what ever reason.If someone likes using their products what difference does it make if they are getting good results?
Oh and what good does it do you for you to attempt to bash someone for the nutes they use.
To me opinions and nutes are like ass holes..everyone has one.If someone wants to use dutch masters cool..if someone wants to use pig shit..cool with me..Im not one who has ever been so self absorbed in my own importance to listen to what someone else has to say.
Who says its a girls bike? You?So you would walk up to someone who is riding a sportster and tell em.thats a girls bike?Wow..you really do think your the shit dont you?You know it all seen it all done it all..wow.im so impressed by your rudeness to others..You probably call em NOOB bikers..LOL..Maybe UB is there with you and you both can call em noob girly bikers because they dont ride a bike you think is manly enough to even be seen on..LOL..you sound like the guy who thought he was cool when he bought a Harley sportster, only to find out it's a girl's bike,lmfao
Seeing as I ride a custom chopper, yeah, sportsters are girls bikes. Yeah, i would walk up to you and tell you you are riding a bitches bike.Who says its a girls bike? You?So you would walk up to someone who is riding a sportster and tell em.thats a girls bike?Wow..you really do think your the shit dont you?You know it all seen it all done it all..wow.im so impressed by your rudeness to others..You probably call em NOOB bikers..LOL..Maybe UB is there with you and you both can call em noob girly bikers because they dont ride a bike you think is manly enough to even be seen on..LOL..
Agreed. You said it the best. As a matter of principle, I boycott AN products.No, I have not used their organic line. I'm sure it works just fine (your pics show bare that out) and I'm glad to see they have an organic line now. But, I feel that it's just another "profits" move on their part. I have been growing for a l o n g - l o n g time and have found that I prefer to make my own teas and supplement on my own from experience and schooling. I save HUGE amounts of dollars by doing it this way. I teach class's on growing MM in my spare time and include ALL forms of growing in the class. I even supply the way I feed and the formula's to make your own (including others formula's) and how to do that (advanced class). But still ask that all students read up on general gardening before they get into it in detail. I also tell them that most manufactures over "hype" their products (including organic line's) to simply get into their wallets. AN falls into that category. I also tell them that these guys stuff works, but you can do it better for less and it will take time and experience to get to that point. "Be patient", keep notes on everything and refer to them often!
Like I said, AN works, it's just not cost effective.
Imagine if berries and fruits were all grown with advanced nutrients branded nutes. They'd be like 5 dollars a strawberry, and it would probably taste exactly the same as someone who used conventional methods.I cant even believe im weighing in on this subject.I know growers that grow well in organics.that grow well in aero DWC using different products,different methods and are getting good results,
You know what i know good growers who use AN..Many of you all keep saying how expensive their products are.This is BS..Go price 5 gallons of DM A&B..Go price CYCO A&B..There base nute line up is really neither no more or less expensive than anyone else's line up.There jungle juice line up is CHEAPER BY FAR than GH.It flys off of the shelfs has the same NPK has the same mixture rate as GH just allot less expensive.Price the carb supplement from AN.cheaper than almost anyones.I use products based upon price and use several different companys products based upon my experience with the product.
You know the only piss poor growers i can think of off of hand..They are the ones who bitch and complain about the cost of growing good smoke.
Ive never seen one of you tight wad MFers ever grow good dope..why is that?
Education is the best investment. Reliance on a brand like AN shows a lack of education in the subject itself.Those who fail to invest invest in failure.
Right, I see all the outdoor growers hauling bottles of AN out to there trees that have buds as big as legs. And yes, you are all over AN's dick. You're more obsessed then anyone, just look at that long last post about them, LMFAOI think big Mike has been fucking your sisters or something and you hate him for it.I already have proven to you that AN is cost effective as compared to most other companys base nute stystems and you are all still bitching...If your too cheap to purchase nutes and complain about the price of everything.Your probably to cheap to purchase new bulbs when you need to..most of you change a bulb one every three years cause your so cheap. You probably are growing on antique hoods calling anyone with a new hood a noob that wasted their money..You cheap skates probably have alum foil food wrap pasted to the walls.Like i said i personally do not care what you use if it works for you good.But..ive never seen one of you cheap ass growers grow anything worth putting in my pipe.Oh i Gave five gallon units of both dynabloom and cyco away to someone i know was getting started..Gave it away..why? because i dont like it. Is he having good results..yea..he is doing OK with it for sure.Dutch masters gold is good gear..i dont use it because i dont like it.Ive used it with good results though and better production than AN also.
Why do i use AN sensi 2 part?Quality,It produces more resin than the other companys nutes and leaves almost no salt build up in my res.The new PH perfect line holds the PH nice and steady and the plants dig it.I use a couple of humbolt countys own products i like real well..oh..but they are expensive.I use some grotec products also.Im not going to pay grandma engy 40 or 50 bucks for a litre of humic acid when other companys make the same humic acid and folvic acids as everyone else.same with the sea weed or other high priced AN additives.Im not going to pay a couple of hundred bucks for a gallon of Vitamin B when i can buy a quart of super thrive concentrated vit b for 55 bucks and it only takes a drop.I use humbolt flavorful for a fulvic acid and fossil fuel for humic.150 bucks for a five gallon jug of fossil fuel.
The mycos that AN sales are super expensive..do they work..yea.Other companys mycos are expensive also.I use DM zone to keep PH stable keeps the res clean and the roots dig it and its cheap.100 bucks a gallon.It goes a long way though.
In not really on ANs dick ladys.Its just that you guys have a hard on hate for them. Not only them but anyone who uses AN is a open target for you fiends.You would think the OWS movement was after them by the looks of you guys.I wonder when you are going to start pooping on AN signs.
He's trying to convince himself after falling prey to their money game. Denial, justification, rationalization.....Right, I see all the outdoor growers hauling bottles of AN out to there trees that have buds as big as legs. And yes, you are all over AN's dick. You're more obsessed then anyone, just look at that long last post about them, LMFAO