DC Shooter and Obama Care?

schuylaar

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Scientific polling does not need a very large sample - we don't have to ask everyone in the country in order to get an idea. "Well...... they didn't ask ME", is a bit silly. As far as that old convenient "damn he facts, I am right because everyone else has an agenda", how about YOUR agenda? Hmm? Most pollsters have a single agenda -being as accurate as possible, the ones that are not tend to go out of business.
"Is that just math you use as a Republican to make yourself feel better?" - Fox News to Karl Rove
 

Bombur

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Except this was not only NOT a "gun free Zone" but the shooter picked up at least one weapon from a downed weapon holder. There goes that often repeated bit of malarkey. There has never been a proven case of a mass shooter "picking" a gun free zone.
I didnt say this was a gun free zone, I said usually. Not my fault you put words in my mouth.. and wtf does that last sentence even mean? Every shooter who ever committed a premeditated shooting in a gun free zone "picked" that location. No one can say for sure if they picked their target based on gun restrictions, but there's no denying that a large portion of shootings happen in these types of areas.
 

D619

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what a worthless, unattributed, copy and paste.

not only do background checks have 90-95% support, a registry has massive support as well. somewhere in the 60-75% range last time i checked.

a pointless series of reality-challenged copy and pastes won't change that.

try using your own original thought next time.
Who the hell cares if I copy and paste, background checks are a joke. Original thought! I've read your posts, so thanks for the laugh.
Gun control is really about controlling the People. You are quite amusing though. The same People who support Obama are just as clueless as those who supported Bush! Gun Laws are about as useless as the War on Drug Laws.
 

NoDrama

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what a worthless, unattributed, copy and paste.

not only do background checks have 90-95% support, a registry has massive support as well. somewhere in the 60-75% range last time i checked.

a pointless series of reality-challenged copy and pastes won't change that.

try using your own original thought next time.
Registry has support? doesn't matter, already a law on the books that makes registries illegal. I am not talking about the 2nd either.
 

NoDrama

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Except this was not only NOT a "gun free Zone" but the shooter picked up at least one weapon from a downed weapon holder. There goes that often repeated bit of malarkey. There has never been a proven case of a mass shooter "picking" a gun free zone.
Military bases are gun free zones, Clinton did that. No one on a military base is allowed to carry a firearm unless on duty and required to do so. The shooter picked the gun off of the ARMED SP ( Shore Patrol i.e. Navy version of police).
 

UncleBuck

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Registry has support? doesn't matter, already a law on the books that makes registries illegal. I am not talking about the 2nd either.
can you cite that law? because there is nothing inconsistent between the second and a national registry.

thanks in advance.
 

ginwilly

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so the armed guards he shot dead were imaginary, or are you just stupid?
why you gotta be such a dick all the time? especially when you are wrong so often, it really makes you look small. Little Uncle Bucktard is what you make me think of.

Are police allowed to carry weapons in gun free zones? You can't seem to win an argument with facts, so you have to distort the truth like a good little soldier and use misdirection. I've noticed when you argue from the side of indisputable facts, you act like a normal person, when you argue from the side of emotion AGAINST the facts, you get really belligerent and seventh gradish. I bet you even pout like a little girl when you make these posts, maybe stomp your feet a bit? Sometimes it's entertaining, most of the time you just keep honest and intelligent debate from happening here.

Isn't there a Trayvon thread you can race bait in?

Columbine, gun free (Buck ignores this fact)
Colorado movie theater, gun free (ignored fact)
Newtown school, gun free (ignored fact)
Ft. Hood, gun restricted to MP (ignored fact, also ignored that it's still classified as work place violence costing surviving family members thousands of dollars a year in rightful benefits)
Navy shooting also takes place in a gun free zone, Buck mentions that a gun was taken off an MP and declares that these shootings did not occur in a gun free zone, calls names and declares victory. Idiotic mouth breathers will like his post.
 

ginwilly

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tell me about some recent australian gun massacres.
murder by gun has gone down since the ban, shocking
violent crime is up
rape is up
murder by instrument other than guns is up
accidental shootings are up (why would this happen?)

During the same period, these stats all went down in the US and most of the world. Women in Australia are now 3 times as likely to get raped than women in the US.
 

UncleBuck

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why you gotta be such a dick all the time? especially when you are wrong so often, it really makes you look small. Little Uncle Bucktard is what you make me think of.

Are police allowed to carry weapons in gun free zones? You can't seem to win an argument with facts, so you have to distort the truth like a good little soldier and use misdirection. I've noticed when you argue from the side of indisputable facts, you act like a normal person, when you argue from the side of emotion AGAINST the facts, you get really belligerent and seventh gradish. I bet you even pout like a little girl when you make these posts, maybe stomp your feet a bit? Sometimes it's entertaining, most of the time you just keep honest and intelligent debate from happening here.

Isn't there a Trayvon thread you can race bait in?

Columbine, gun free (Buck ignores this fact)
Colorado movie theater, gun free (ignored fact)
Newtown school, gun free (ignored fact)
Ft. Hood, gun restricted to MP (ignored fact, also ignored that it's still classified as work place violence costing surviving family members thousands of dollars a year in rightful benefits)
Navy shooting also takes place in a gun free zone, Buck mentions that a gun was taken off an MP and declares that these shootings did not occur in a gun free zone, calls names and declares victory. Idiotic mouth breathers will like his post.
wow, talk about pouting and crying and throwing a fit.

all because of the lie about the good guy with a gun being exposed for the lie it is.

i guarantee that with a ccw, i could carry a gun into any movie theater in the entire state of colorado.

next thing you'll be telling me the luby's in texas of all places is a gun free zone.

cry harder.
 

UncleBuck

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murder by gun has gone down since the ban, shocking
violent crime is up
rape is up
murder by instrument other than guns is up
accidental shootings are up (why would this happen?)

During the same period, these stats all went down in the US and most of the world. Women in Australia are now 3 times as likely to get raped than women in the US.
goddamn. i am surrounded by stupid liars who tell stupid lies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics

rape statistics are damn near identical between australia and the united states.

there are plenty of countries with stricter gun control and lower rates of rape.

i'd rather be raped or assaulted than shot dead, but hey, that's just me.

you go an attempting to spread stupid lies, i'll be here to call you a stupid liar when you do.
 

ginwilly

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wow, talk about pouting and crying and throwing a fit.

all because of the lie about the good guy with a gun being exposed for the lie it is.

i guarantee that with a ccw, i could carry a gun into any movie theater in the entire state of colorado.

next thing you'll be telling me the luby's in texas of all places is a gun free zone.

cry harder.

Let's nail you down right here. Are non-law enforcement agents allowed to carry guns in Cinemark theatres? Are you willing to go on record and say they allow guns? You know you are fos on this, wonder what else you willingly lie about?
 

ginwilly

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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=man+leaves+gun+in+movie+theater

i've never gone through a metal detector in order to see a movie.

people bring guns into movie theaters all the time.

go cry now.
Posted outside the Cinemark theater in Aurora where the shooting occurred, the only gun free zone within a 20 mile radius.
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But you are correct in saying people disobey this and bring in firearms anyway. I know Holmes didn't follow it.

You keep making our argument for us, thanks.
 

ginwilly

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goddamn. i am surrounded by stupid liars who tell stupid lies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics

rape statistics are damn near identical between australia and the united states.

there are plenty of countries with stricter gun control and lower rates of rape.

i'd rather be raped or assaulted than shot dead, but hey, that's just me.

you go an attempting to spread stupid lies, i'll be here to call you a stupid liar when you do.
I'd rather have the ability to stop a rape or assault, but hey, that's just me, I'm not into the whole victim thing you girly men crave.

I read your wiki link and went to the official crime statistic site of the Aussie gov. Turns out both our stats are off, admittedly mine more than yours, it's not 3 x as likely, just more likely now, less likely before the ban. Your link shows 3 years of stats when there is 13 years of stats since the ban.
 

D619

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tell me about some recent australian gun massacres.
im going to have fun with this one. To be continued. Yes Uncle Buck, Obama's Gun Agenda is about keeping us safer .. Like he did in Chicago. When all said said and done, you just prefer a left foot up your ass instead of the right foot. Guess what Einstein , you still have a foot up your ass.
 

UncleBuck

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im going to have fun with this one. To be continued. Yes Uncle Buck, Obama's Gun Agenda is about keeping us safer .. Like he did in Chicago. When all said said and done, you just prefer a left foot up your ass instead of the right foot. Guess what Einstein , you still have a foot up your ass.
rawn pawl lost.

get over it.
 
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