What isa purge

Skunkybud

Skunkybud

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I'm currently making some iso hash out of a lil more than a oz of trim and small shit nugs. What is purging and how do you do it. I'm double boiling it in a pyrex dish on my electric stove. It should be done within the hour isn't purging just heating it? Am I correct please someone help me with my delema. I'll love you long time :hump: and +rep
 
Skunkybud

Skunkybud

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Nah dude I'm not stupid lol. I had my stove vent on and every window in my place open and had a big fan blowing fresh air it circulated out of my house and its all evaporated and purged. Its not one of those electric coil stoves its one of the new fancy flat top ones that's like a fiberglass like material. Btw my hash tasted like shit lol. They are right you get what you put into it. and thank you guys. And vacpurge plus rep to u for you concern I guess lol. :eyesmoke:
 
vacpurge

vacpurge

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trust me, none of that shit matters. that stove vent you think is all bad ass will be the thing that creates the spark. windows open or not sometimes all that does it swirl the fumes around, if you dont have a proper intake and exhaust into your house, or the perfect wind direction, its really not venting as well as youd think.

I know a guy who was just like you... he wasnt stupid. thought his dinky little fan was exhausting all his fumes. well it blew up on him and lifted the roof right off of his fuckin house.. cracked all along the top of the walls and the ceiling, knocked his bathroom door right off the hinges. burnt his plastic jogging pants onto his legs. his tatted arms were burnt now his arms look fucked, not to mention he pain and financial stress he went through.

trust me, its better to be safe than sorry, it happens so fucking quick and the thoughts going through your head during that split second will stick with you for the rest of your life. ive blown up ISO and butane when I was younger with friends, ill never forget it. ever had your life flash before your eyes? I somewhat experienced it when that ISO went up on fire, as well as what the future would be like... felt like 10 years and 10,000 scenarios went through my head in under 1/10th of a second. the butane one was too quick. I didnt even have time to do anything, it was just BOOMouch. we already had a member here have a fire this weekend, same as you... cooking it off indoors with doors open and a fan...
 
Skunkybud

Skunkybud

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Damn man I guess I got lucky I think I'm gunna revamp my technique a little maybe next time I'll just do a hot water bath next time to aid in evaporation / purging. I mean I was only using like 10 Fl oz of 91% iso. But regardless I don't want to talk it down I know the danger was present I did not , however, realize my vent fan could of caused a spark to ignite the fumes. I mean even if I didn't get burned I coulda burnt my whole place down. Thanks dude for real I appreciate it. And I have had my life flash before my eyes a few times once I got jumped by like 10 spics ( Every Hispanic isn't a spic its just the lazy unemployment abusing crack heads) another time got robbed at shotgun point and another time got whacked real hard by a 210 outlet when I thought the breaker was off. Never fun but I've never been burnt bad in my life and I plan to try to stay smooth skinned (I'ma fallout nerd lol) and un burnt. ..................................................... (my enter button doesn't work on this site for some reason) So vacpurge what method would be best for purging ISO? I also have a butane extractor I've made myself it can fit like a 1/4 in it I've made BHO 3 times and never purged just had a really gooey goo that I had to freeze for it to be manageable for a second to get in a pipe. It didn't taste bad like my iso did at all but it also didn't look like the bho I'm used to bying off my guy.
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Butane is much harder to fully evap a double boil will help but technically you need a vacuum or etoh wash etc. Iso is very easy to evap, no need for a true purge.. iso is relatively much more difficult to get a good product than butane but can provide a better product if your careful(will have reduced yields with iso) you shouldn't attribute the foul taste to the iso but rather to your hash making process.. butane is also many times more dangerous than iso, being explosive and dense(likes to pool in recessed/spots without airflow) butane should always be done outside. It boils at a much lower temp than iso, you can actually see it bubbling. This releases much more explosive gas than evapping the slower isopropanol..care should be taken around static from clothing, cell phones ect... I generally look down on people who use butane (not meaning any offence people) because of its volatility uncleanliness and lipid absorbing properties. Hexane which can be found pure at a scientific supply store or online ect does not boil at as low of temps allowing a room temp soak and less potential for explosions.....

I think I might have gotten off track and rambled. But my point is.....how you described "purging" butane is a no-no. And that iso won't leave a funny taste
 
vacpurge

vacpurge

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qwizoking might have the best answer, I dont do many ISO runs and hes the king. but when I purge ISO and everclear though, I put them into a nice dish, set the dish AND a griddle outside. set the griddle at about 120F, set a fan on it, and let it do its thing. outside is 1 thing, but inside is just asking for trouble.

also, those evaporated ISO fumes can also fuck you up. get you feeling drunk and probably do brain damage too. that shit is NOT good to be breathing in.


look at this video... these guys werent using much ISO either. and their explosion, although a fairly small one, happened within 5 or 10 seconds.... imagine if you let those ISO fumes cook off and collect for 10 minutes, then the explosion happen.. ouch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvYIFNX_n7U
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Hexane is similar to butane but with a longer carbon chain, that's how the naming works. Pentane octane have 5 and 8 respectively.. its not necessary to use hexane and I'm not "hating" on butane. But the longer chain, ie heavier molecule doesn't boil as low of temps meaning the heavier the solvent the higher the boiling temp. The longer chain makes it a slightly better solvent as well(polarity) and its not as volatile.. I'm sure I missed a little but hexane is one of the better non polar solvents imo..butane isn't really dirty I mean fade did that mystery oil thing and as u know some already are fairly impure. Its always better to get a pure reagent grade imo but idk that's just my personal opinion
 
vacpurge

vacpurge

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he ran like 24 cans and found something that was 1/5000th of the occupational limit.

so hex is 6... could you use octane to make BHO? or what. how about decane? with 10
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Yea its nothing to really be concerned about...but when you tell someone its made from reagent hexane a smile always crosses their face..octane works good as well, you do have to take into consideration price as well, but they will also progressively take longer to do its thing..I've heard graywolf on a different site talk about a 12 hour soak
 
WarMachine

WarMachine

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I've always thought about using hexane but just don't know much about it. Or where to get it. ISO is good but id like to try other methods.
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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You can get it online many places, amazon has some. Or if your comfortable with it and have one, a science supply/teaching store will have it.....
 
Skunkybud

Skunkybud

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vacpurge said:
qwizoking might have the best answer, I dont do many ISO runs and hes the king. but when I purge ISO and everclear though, I put them into a nice dish, set the dish AND a griddle outside. set the griddle at about 120F, set a fan on it, and let it do its thing. outside is 1 thing, but inside is just asking for trouble.

also, those evaporated ISO fumes can also fuck you up. get you feeling drunk and probably do brain damage too. that shit is NOT good to be breathing in.


look at this video... these guys werent using much ISO either. and their explosion, although a fairly small one, happened within 5 or 10 seconds.... imagine if you let those ISO fumes cook off and collect for 10 minutes, then the explosion happen.. ouch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvYIFNX_n7U
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I like your idea I'm deffinitly gunna do that for my next run but I'm gunna use a hot plate, and hexane instead. It cant come out any worse than my last batch. And I will be much much safer thanks to you guys.
 
vacpurge

vacpurge

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a hot plate ive found is way too hot. those things are fuckin intense even on the lowest level.

a 15-20$ pancake griddle from walmart is the way to go at 110F... or some guys here have even had success with getting a dish of reptile sand up to 120F or so, and having it retain that heat for up to 6 hours which is a pretty decent chunk of time, and also very consistent heat. I think that might be more so for butane though. no idea what hexane is TBH so cant comment on that or its boiling/evap point is

but yeah, a pancake griddle is way better than a one of those hot plate red hot swirly grille things.
 
qwizoking

qwizoking

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Iso and hexane both have a flammability rating of 3 as does ethanol while butane is 4... http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flammability_limit.....has a list of solvents including butane and hexane and properties of each... I don't like to use heat period but when I do use heat I only do it during the last stages of the purge like to make wax ect. I remove the majority of any solvent without heat always. Even outside these things can be dangerous with an lel of 1% or so
 
Skunkybud

Skunkybud

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Thank both of you so much for the knowledge. I live like a 2 min walk away from wal mart I think im gunna have to invest in a pancake griddle. I mean I can also cook nice breakfast on it as well as use it for my medicinal reasons so its a good investment. So I should just let my solvents evaporate naturally 1st, then do a light heat purge on a griddle, is that correct and safe method? all done out side or in a superventilated area (not my place)?
 
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