Legal recreational grow licenses?
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thepaintedchef
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Money and a lot of jumping through hoops.
HeadieNugz
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Rep tape. Red tape. three and a half bitch boats full of money. More Red tape.
I dont even think the STATES know that yet, mate. Give em time to sort it out.
I dont even think the STATES know that yet, mate. Give em time to sort it out.
agree with all of what they said.
You will need a lawyer and a well funded opertation to qualify.
WA is a very small business unfriendly state, and add on top of that LCB doctrine, which is reminiscent of countries where the business are state chosen favorites.
I'm Trying very hard not to label them as communists or socialists
But really instead of allowing free enterprise to sort out who and how many stores there needs to be they are trying to control the whole thing, rather than just making sure product produced is safe, true to label and taxed. Seems the LCB really misses the days of having state run liquor stores.
You will need a lawyer and a well funded opertation to qualify.
WA is a very small business unfriendly state, and add on top of that LCB doctrine, which is reminiscent of countries where the business are state chosen favorites.
I'm Trying very hard not to label them as communists or socialists
But really instead of allowing free enterprise to sort out who and how many stores there needs to be they are trying to control the whole thing, rather than just making sure product produced is safe, true to label and taxed. Seems the LCB really misses the days of having state run liquor stores.
Fenian Brotherhood
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Just do what everyone else does... And Grow pot without the "License"
colonuggs
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there is only going to be 334 stores in the entire state....Whos ass you got to kiss to get a license
Washington state is among the first to legalize the recreational use of marijuana.Ted S. Warren/AP
Washington state regulators, aiming to limit the state's nascent marijuana industry, want to cap the amount of space available to grow recreational marijuana in the state at 2 million square feet -- the equivalent of about 35 NFL football fields.
The limit was among proposed state marijuana rules released by the Washington State Liquor Board on Wednesday, about a week after the U.S. Justice Department said it would not sue to block legal pot so long as certain guidelines are met, including keeping the drug away from children.
"This is an important day," said Brian Smith, spokesman for the Washington State Liquor Control Board. "These are the rules we believe are going to govern the system going forward."
Washington and Colorado became the first states to legalize marijuana for recreational use after approving separate ballot initiatives last year, even as the drug remains illegal under federal law. Some 20 states and the District of Columbia allow marijuana to be used for medical purposes.
In addition to limiting the amount of space that can be allocated to growing recreational pot, the new draft rules in Washington state also cap how much non-medical marijuana can be grown statewide at 40 metric tons, and would limit recreational-use pot growers to a footprint of up to 30,000 square feet per facility.
In a departure from earlier draft rules, state pot regulators also sought to keep big business from dominating the recreational pot industry by barring anyone from holding a stake in more than three stores or three growing and processing facilities.
In proposing the limits, regulators were seeking to balance having enough marijuana on hand to compete with the black market and the medical marijuana industry while not producing so much that excess pot would spill over to other states where it remains illegal, one of the regulators said.
Chris Marr, a member of the Washington State Liquor Control Board that is tasked with drafting the state rulebook on recreational pot, said production caps were likely to rise in future years.
He noted that state marijuana consultant Mark Kleiman has estimated the legal recreational pot market would account for only 13 percent of pot sold in the state in its first year, with medical marijuana and black market pot comprising the remainder.
The proposed rules will be subject to public hearings next month and are scheduled to become effective in November, two days before the state plans to start accepting pot license applications and a year after voters approved legalization.
The first retail stores will likely open next June, said Sharon Foster, chairwoman of the three-member Liquor Control Board.
The board said it plans to allow a total of 334 stores in the state, parceled out by county. To spread the stores out more evenly, some cities will have separate caps. Seattle, for instance, will be limited to 21 pot stores.
Among other proposed rules, regulators would close a loophole that would have allowed pot candy and other goodies to be packaged in wrappers designed to appeal to children. Marijuana in solid forms would have to be sold in child-resistant packaging.
They would also require pot businesses be located at least 1,000 feet from schools and certain other locations, measured by walking or driving routes to the facility, rather than as the crow flies, to make it easier for pot businesses to find suitable real estate in dense areas such as Seattle, board members said
Fenian Brotherhood
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IDK But that's hella Funny! Stupid Industry. Should have Stoners do this work for you, maybe people who control Alcohol wouldn't Fuck it up so Bad
HAHAHA
DANKSWAG
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FB...
Once they get over the hangover and realize more retails stores means more competition, more competition lower prices, lower prices will compete (though tax structure may have to be revisited) eventually giving legalized market a greater share.
They are just stuck on this guideline, they will realize they can have mores stores and keep it mostly in state. Especially once they realize more stores will generate greater revenue take more share of market due to competition and a better tax method. High end products will naturally create a greater desire (demand) and there will be less of the best on open market, (or there should be a creed among growers to keep top shelf off the top of retail) They will probably also put their resources clamping down on those not compliant with state laws to eliminate amount on black market. This with high end means black market will still be there, but will they compete once everyone is on board in open legal market?
Think about it if I want a really good beer am I going pay my beer making neighbor more money then I can get just as good and know what's in it from a reputable retailer?
In proposing the limits, regulators were seeking to balance having enough marijuana on hand to compete with the black market and the medical marijuana industry while not producing so much that excess pot would spill over to other states where it remains illegal, one of the regulators said.
Fenian Brotherhood
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That's the thing though, just like the Black Market you can be told what's in the Beer/Marijuana but even in Stores they could be lying to you.. You'd never know.
Besides, everyone I mess with I've known for more than 10+ years... They're trusted. Meanwhile, all these Chemicals that are put in Tobacco and were only told a LITTLE portion of those of what we Smoke... See?
Besides, everyone I mess with I've known for more than 10+ years... They're trusted. Meanwhile, all these Chemicals that are put in Tobacco and were only told a LITTLE portion of those of what we Smoke... See?
DANKSWAG
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Is it your baby?
Fenian Brotherhood
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Oohh Foxtails... Sativas are Great... Especially Full Bred Haze
DANKSWAG
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nice CN, very nice, appears your using HID lamps, HPS? I see you got main lining down. I've been limited to a set of four clones per cycle and thus could only too clone 4 at a time. This keeping them uniform even cutting same size clones and same environment still of course after some weeks of growth one can easily see even after topping properly as well that there are variance in height of plants and cola branches. I am sure I just need to review my processes for I am fairly new to main lining and think some of it may have to do with my training. Or is it inconceivable to attempt to grow 4 clones with 8 cola sites each and expect to keep the canopy level? I'm grateful for any assistance it is clear to me you have this down, or they pretty much appear more level then my last PHOGS attempt.
mustang519
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the state does not have all of the regulations in place, yet. The picture is still a bit blurry. I get email updates to keep track of what the liquor control board is doing. If you are serious then check out the information at the state website. So far I have not seen any rules that make this a deal breaker for me. I am moving forward with my plans to get a producer and a processor license. good luck
colonuggs
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There will be so many swinging dicks pushin their strains....prices will drop....quality will be ify.
just like the dispensaries now to many shitty strains but if you ask um there all killer
Not so sure prices are gonna drop that much. The 25% compound taxes structure will keep margins low and prices up. There will definitely be a proliferation of outdoor, and open greenhouse grows. lots of mid-low quality product. Hows Oregon and Cali Outdoor now a days in October?....prices will drop....quality will be ify.
Shoot, If I could find a bunch of reliable investors I'd startup a semi-sealed intensive greenhouse grows for I502. I could pull out 3 major crops a year in the greenhouse, with a small indoor veg\nursery room.
Fenian Brotherhood
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Theory's 
Hahah
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colonuggs
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Shhhot..... my pre98 and ecsd flies right now for $150 a oz ("Donation") to local dispensaries they sell it for $250-275 oz, $12 a g
as producer processor youll be getting $125 a oz 100 for u 25 to taxes .....for top grade product
the retailer will get the same 100 plus 25 for taxes selling @$250 a oz.... that's AAA grade
I know a few dispensaries right now in the Seattle area that you can get $100 oz weed but its shit weed BUT people do buy it
if they are selling it @ 100 what did they get it for $50?
nope even less!!!Prices will be all over the board so will the quality.....one places bubba kush wont be the same as the other guys it all depends on whos cut you get and how good the grower was at growing the product
Fenian Brotherhood
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Think of it like a Brand of Tobacco. Myself, I love Camels.. No other Brand comes close when it comes to the TASTE and SMOOTHNESS of my Camels... At the same time, this grower over here is Growing Marlboro Tobacco(Gross)
But people still smoke those don't they?
What I would want to see.. Is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in stores... Except Camels... Will they do that with Top Shelf?.... LOL! ya right
But people still smoke those don't they?
What I would want to see.. Is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in stores... Except Camels... Will they do that with Top Shelf?.... LOL! ya right