Things You found Out on your own

ArCaned

Active Member
Less is more, remain a beginner, plants are sculptures, and if you work to fill a void the plants know.....Feel fulfillment as you germinate and let your garden reflect your abundance of spirit. Helping people is very important.
More is more, always go pro, plants are plants, and if you are an idiot the plants know....feel stoned as you germinate and reflect the absence of spirit and the wishful thinking of man. Always install your own air-mask before helping a child.
 

billy4479

Moderator
Hey fairly new to RIU, not to growing anything green. After hundreds hours of scouring/reading/policing I have found out One important thing I did not know before I started. I did not know there was no botanist on the RIU staff! There can't be, with all the fallacies here why is no one correcting these statements. No one seems to know the basics of gardening, people arguing 2 different points and both are actually wrong, pages and pages of crap, name calling, racism...you name it! All of this could be nipped in the bud if a proper botanist was able to step in and shut down the parties in question before the wars start. No one wins when it is allowed to decay like I see in sooooo many threads.[/QUOTE
For being fairly new you catch on quick . Half of this web site is things your not supposed to do . Here and there somebody will come with a new idea . Show studies on how it has worked on a countless range of other crops . Than people say Cannabis cultivation Is way deffent from any other crop on earth . than they start quoting Jorge Cervantes and high times . Pretty soon any book on horticulture, botany , plant science's have to be Marijuana specific or they don't work .
 

Uncle Ben

Well-Known Member
I agree with you 100 percent you get a few idiots to agree on something it becomes fact to the masses no matter if they are wrong.
A consensus which is usually composed of a group of the blind leading the blind should not be taken with any degree of credibility. Trust me, when it comes to RIU, if it's "popular", it's usually wrong.

If you know botany and conventional horticulture, then there is no need for question. You already know.

Before the Tribute thread was trashed, this is how I put the dynamics of this group.

I believe that much of the evidence on which we base the success of our business is largely anecdotal. It lies within our observations, which for better or worse, are colored by our own perceptions.

We interact with our peers, we watch and subscribe to consumer and industry trends, we gather feedback from growers, users, and the "medical" side of the cannabis industry which is wraught with a coverup for substance abuse, greed, and mis-representation.

I do not mean to make light of the power of these observations, because they provide us with valuable insights and perhaps we can grow from those experiences. However, this method of measurement alone cannot adequately benchmark how well we are doing or whether there is room for more.

UB
 

JonnyAppleSeed420

New Member
Hey fairly new to RIU, not to growing anything green. After hundreds hours of scouring/reading/policing I have found out One important thing I did not know before I started. I did not know there was no botanist on the RIU staff! There can't be, with all the fallacies here why is no one correcting these statements. No one seems to know the basics of gardening, people arguing 2 different points and both are actually wrong, pages and pages of crap, name calling, racism...you name it! All of this could be nipped in the bud if a proper botanist was able to step in and shut down the parties in question before the wars start. No one wins when it is allowed to decay like I see in sooooo many threads.
For being fairly new you catch on quick . Half of this web site is things your not supposed to do . Here and there somebody will come with a new idea . Show studies on how it has worked on a countless range of other crops . Than people say Cannabis cultivation Is way deffent from any other crop on earth . than they start quoting Jorge Cervantes and high times . Pretty soon any book on horticulture, botany , plant science's have to be Marijuana specific or they don't work .
I may be new to RIU and this thing in my lap called a computer, but I've been around the block a few times, maybe a few too many! From what I see this site is a melting pot of older, hands on, get your hands dirty kind of guys/gals, and the new fresh out of school no-it-alls. I can't forget the down right gullible and just plain stupid groups also. Not meaning any disrespect but if you believe adding a single uv bulb or pissing in your res. will change your outcome...well...need I say more? I see ego's come into play more than common sense. OLDER guys you can learn from boys fresh out of the fields with the new age "snakeoils"(I love this statement! Didn't figure I would get to use it so quickly)because there is truth in that shit! Younger guys...the wisdom an older guy has is GOLD...REMEMBER that, have patients, it takes time to change things that have worked well in the past! Everyone else in between listen to what is being said, research what you have just learnt and then come to your own conclusions. There is a lot of good info here but sadly you need a degree to filter all the crap away, how is a new member supposed to do that?
 

Uncle Ben

Well-Known Member
REMEMBER that, have patients,....
You must be into medical MJ. :)

There is a lot of good info here but sadly you need a degree to filter all the crap away, how is a new member supposed to do that?
Recommend you read my posts. I have given you the answer a hundred times including my previous post - "If you know botany and conventional horticulture, then there is no need for question. You already know."

Good luck....you're gonna need it. ;)

UB
 

JonnyAppleSeed420

New Member
You must be into medical MJ. :)
Yes. I'm dying.



Recommend you read my posts. I have given you the answer a hundred times including my previous post - "If you know botany and conventional horticulture, then there is no need for question. You already know."

Good luck....you're gonna need it. ;)

UB
I don't remember asking you a question on botany? I ask for your reasoning on a comment made about bloom fertilizers and flushing? From a botanists point of view that is a very strange comment, you understand. JAS.
 

Uncle Ben

Well-Known Member
Yes. I'm dying.



I don't remember asking you a question on botany? I ask for your reasoning on a comment made about bloom fertilizers and flushing? From a botanists point of view that is a very strange comment, you understand. JAS.
Not singling you out, sorry if it came across that way. My point being and what I preach often, is for folks to empower themselves with knowledge from reputable sources. You corroborated that with the "filter all the crap out" comment. If you want a solid book on MJ growing and gardening in general that is based on conventional, sound horticultural principles, then you should buy Mel Frank's Guide. If you want crap....how to fuck the whole thing up and make growing pot as complicated, confusing, and expensive as possible, then you can embrace RIU posts.

Simple, eh? :)

UB
 

Malevolence

New Member
1. be prepared (as an eagle scout that one is embedded in my mind, but I am never surprised anymore when I realize after toking up, that I have left something very important.
That's the internal struggle between the eagle scout and stoner in you.

I learned on my own in DWC large net pots of hydroton slow root growth compared to just using neoprene collars and getting the roots into the water asap.

Most of what I have learned about growing weed has been from this site, and I didn't find it very hard to determine what advice to listen to and what seemed like bullshit. As long as you understand as a new grower, you should stick to the tried and proven basics... and then once you can grow start experimenting with other things... you can avoid a lot of bullshit.

I have found growing is not about teaching old dogs new tricks or 17 year old douche bags growin the 'dro outdoors. It is more about having an open mind to be willing to consider new possibilities - and to be willing to consider you might be wrong, and a skeptical mind to take the advice you have read and determine for yourself the validity of it rather than just accepting it because it sounds good or you think the guy that said it is cool.
 

JonnyAppleSeed420

New Member
Not singling you out, sorry if it came across that way. My point being and what I preach often, is for folks to empower themselves with knowledge from reputable sources. You corroborated that with the "filter all the crap out" comment. If you want a solid book on MJ growing and gardening in general that is based on conventional, sound horticultural principles, then you should buy Mel Frank's Guide. If you want crap....how to fuck the whole thing up and make growing pot as complicated, confusing, and expensive as possible, then you can embrace RIU posts.

Simple, eh? :)
UB
Sorry...after reading some of your other posts, I figured it was a dig. There is good info here also but sadly an in-experienced person can't tell shit from shinola. Met/chatted with Mel a few years back, a little eccentric but knows his stuff.
 

haulinbass

Well-Known Member
I learned reverse osmosis water is good for drinking very expensive water

Haha shit from shinola.... steve martin was the king back then
 

sold777

Well-Known Member
I learned I learned I learned I learned I learned I learned I learned I learned,and still do to this day and love it.
 

Gomziel

Member
That's about the best single sentence of advice there is. It's way easier to kill/retard a plant by trying too hard than it is the opposite. Over-compensating and lack of patience kills more pot than anything I'm sure!
semi natural selection baby. if it's too slow, it's doomed. i figured its way better to make more clones or seedlings than nessesery and kill some on the way. (i hate to kill them by mistake though)
 

Indagrow

Well-Known Member
i learned that no matter how good i think i am i make mistakes every time.. that's what keeps me coming back for more, i want ONE perfect run
 

Sunbiz1

Well-Known Member
ok, got back from a day out in the sun... more things I just found out, or knew before but didn't have time to post, these are mainly with outdoor stuff:
1. be prepared (as an eagle scout that one is embedded in my mind, but I am never surprised anymore when I realize after toking up, that I have left something very important. So this last time I made a list. Down to the absolute basics of a paper towel so I could wipe my face from the sweat (100+ degrees yikes!) to the myriad of writing utensils (pen, pencil, marker that I knew I would need) and a short shopping list.

2. this one might be more for me, but Know what you can carry, and how you are getting it there. I have a 15 mile bike ride (yes a bicycle not a motorcycle) through town, then a gravel road, then a country road, then a dirt road and then up a hill. I almost killed myself at 4:30 in the morning trying to discreetly carry a half gallon of purified water to my site. Hindsight, shoulda gotten a backpack or bag or something to carry that stuff in. I had no room in my bike, and the weight dragged me to the left, and any right turns would have resulted in a sudden and severe case of broken neck. I am still here though, so that didn't happen. I had to MacGyver a bottle of water to my bike with my bike lock, thank god it stayed tight enough I didn't lose it, and deal with fog so thick I coulda eaten it with a spoon.

3. Bring pest control for YOU. not just your plants. I have at least 1 orange flying thing that is the biggest thing I've ever seen (at least its the loudest one I've ever heard) and it is out to kill me. I can't remember how many times I've come running out of the garden after hearing the tk-tk-tk-tk-tk-tk machine gun sound of its wings as it dive bombs me from some unknown direction. A can of raid later, and Larry is absent, thank GOD.

4. Poison Ivy. look it up and watch out for it. also Poison Oak, sumac, stuff like that. I thought I was digging in some weeds, til the next day when my back, legs, and arms were all infected with the poison stuff, not fun.
5. Get plenty of rest. If you gotta take a 15 mile or so hike, you wanna be rested, cause at the END of that hike, is when the work starts. There's been a couple days when I get to the garden and all I wanna do is lie down and sleep, which means that I will wake up infested with ticks and mosquito bites.

6. Stay hydrated, but keep it separate from what you feed your plants. I will take a gatorade bottle, nice unique shape there. its mine. Good electrolytes and all that scientific stuff that means that I stay healthy and hydrated. then a bottle of water (totally different shape. I can grab either of them with my hand, not look and know which it is. that said, your plant feed should be clearly labeled so you don't add the wrong nutrients
Great stuff here, funny as hell cuz' I can relate to a lot of it.

Get one of those evaporative cooling vests that you soak in icewater...best 50 bucks I spent all summer!.
 

Sunbiz1

Well-Known Member
I once thought that burning plants with CFL lighting was an impossibility...until I ran 1,000 *actual watts at a 3" height from canopy.

Cooked 2 poor kush ladies so bad a few weeks back they weren't even any good for hash making.:cry:
 

sold777

Well-Known Member
I once thought that burning plants with CFL lighting was an impossibility...until I ran 1,000 *actual watts at a 3" height from canopy.

Cooked 2 poor kush ladies so bad a few weeks back they weren't even any good for hash making.:cry:
Shit I burnt my plants on day so bad that's they look just lick BQ chicken,back in the day.
but I got them back to good health.lol
 

mikek420

Well-Known Member
I just recently learned that cologne is terrible to weed. I didn't spray any in their general area, but when I came to my guys house I was like what the wtf happened here? and he said he sprayed some cologne in the room by accident. Hopefully they get strong again.
Also, if you're gonna buy a book, make sure that the info is recent, and is actually true. My friend got a book a basic how to grow guide by someone named Tommy (can't remember the last name) I strongly recommend NOT buying that book, or if you do, buy all the ones in stock and burn them so this Tommy guy doesn't spread his lies. I can't remember much about it, other than he recommends:
you pee on your plants (and he said pee, not urine, which sounds more professional)
ruderalis is hempweed and is not good for growing (its not... they have gotten really good with the genetics)
he said nothing about nute deficiencies, burns or anything. just pee on them again (he recommends 1 bladderful per gallon... yeah right, I'll get something that will work)
 
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