Iced Grapefruit, Skunk#1, Menage a Trois, Flower from day 1

prosperian

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Like you said, it hardly ever happens, but I'm sure you will be gun shy for a little while. I almost always blame hermies on grower error, but in rare instances like yours, I would lean towards genetics as well. I only say this because I follow your grows closely and you share all the details. You grow enough plants it's bound to happen.
 

Slipon

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damn it Bro, sorry to see, atleast its near the end, I had my share of Hermies and I blame it on the grower, for keep using genetic that hermit easily

a vacume clener and a tweezer is usefull before you begin to move the plant, in case they are ready to pop and spread the pollen
 

mycomaster

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I'm sure it was something I might have done in the end I guess. I still say this strain has hermaphroditic tendencies though. Oh well, like you said bro, you grow alot of ladies, and sooner or later you get hermies unfortunately. Part of the game I guess. I always try to let everyone know exactly what's going on in my tent. If you want to know what the humidity level was when the lights were out 5 days ago, I'd post it, I don't care. I really think the circumstances behind this one was genetics. I only say it like that so other people can be aware, and make sure they check their plants after the 40 day mark on these Sour Blueberry for nanners. I don't want anyone else in the same situation, but getting their grow pollinated, you know. Horrible business hermies. Have a great day everyone. Thanks for coming in and dulling the blow of this Pros, really means alot man. Peace and Love Everyone.
 

prosperian

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That's alright man. I'm here to pick you up when you're down and to kick you down a notch when you are all full of yourself.

That's what bros are for!
 

mycomaster

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There is an up-side to all this HASH!:hump: HA-HA-HA. I've been enjoying some large chunks of scissor hash this morning, and i have to say this stuff has a great sour taste, and quite the potency to her. I still don't recommend the strain after what happened, but not a bad taste though. I'm still kind of up in the air about what to run next. It's either the Iced Grapefruit which I've already ran, but really love the smoke. Or the Bay11, and Yumbolt47 as both are about the same size, and would fit pretty tight, but they'd be good through flower I think. When the Blue O.G. gets removed soon there would be extra room, and that would keep em happy. Thinking this through just now I think I'll put the Iced Grapefruit in the flower tent, and veg out the Yumbolt47, and Bay11 into proper bushes. The removal of the I.G. will open space for the other two for a little bit, and I'll get them bigger. When the Blue O.G. comes out I'll pop one of them in, and have a better over all yield in the end. The only big question then is, who's after the I.G. the Bay11 or Yum47, LOL. This way also opens up space for my seedlings, and such. I only want them under the cfl's as long as they have to be. Although if you work em right cfl's will keep em short so they don't elongate on you. Alright, I guess I'll be popping the Iced Grapefruit back in the tent for another run. Lets see what this girl can do when she a bush folks. I really think this time around she'll be even better. This pheno definitely has more indica in it, that's for sure. The last one was quite the sativa, but she should be fun to run with a little more indica in there. If the flowers come out denser that would be pretty cool. If the I.C.E. gets expressed heavier in this pheno, that would be bad @$$! I.C.E. stands for Indica Crystal Extreme. I could handle that, LOL. Thanks for the tip on the vac Slip, good idea for sure. I caught them really early as i'm always taking friggin pictures of these things, you know. I checked over every flower, and not one nanner popped thank the Lord. Have a great weekend folks. Peace and Love.
 

GandalfdaGreen

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I would not even give it a second thought. Genetics bro. If that happened to you then that's what I am calling it. I have had hermies in the past with a bunch of gear I wanted to try out. I know it was my fault along with the genes just waiting to pop them nanners. You are the best grower and I know there is no grower induced stress in there. Fuck that plant and move on.

BTW....Gage named a new strain the other day. Mindscape. genuity grew these out and took these photos. Headwrecker x Mendo Montage. Beautiful flowers.

http://instagram.com/p/c91HAjgffO/

https://gagegreen.org/forum/download/file.php?id=22680&mode=view

https://gagegreen.org/forum/download/file.php?id=22676&mode=view
 

mycomaster

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Thanks bro, that's really kind. Those pictures are really beautiful man, what a strain! The Mendo's have always been quite nice I.M.O. They always seem like top notch genes. I just smashed my dang knee, and have rendered myself all, but useless, ARGGHHHH! I have to get that Iced Grapefruit in the friggin tent too. This is going to be interesting moving this plant now. WOOOO I think i'll be making some oil today too! This crap always happens at the best times, you know. Good grief. i'm gonna go hobble, and get my crap done so i can smoke myself retarded. Have a great weekend peeps. Thanks for that with the hermie thing guys. I really am stressing that a little, but she's gone now, and it can't hurt me, LOL. Take er easy. Peace and love.
 

mycomaster

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All right here they are. Pics of my hermaphrodite Sour Blueberry that shall never be mentioned again, LOL. you've already seen it's weiners so I'm not gonna focus on that crap, just a couple of her natural beauty. She still is very beautiful, I'm just not into that sorta thing, you know. I do have to say the scissor hash is pretty incredible, and all the oil is going to be nice to gave on hand. It's funny how I thought I would be blasting the B.O.G. for a bunch of oil, and here I am drying out a hermed Sour Blueberry for that purpose. Plans are B.S., go with the flow dude. It never hurts to make plans, just done plan on keeping them, LOL. Anyways, here's some pics guys.DSCF0978.jpgDSCF0964.jpgDSCF0966.jpgDSCF0967.jpgDSCF0968.jpgDSCF0979.jpgDSCF0991.jpg
Not a bad strain without the friggin nanners on her. Oh well, just imagine all the top shelf shatter this plant is gonna produce. I said before I was gonna order a bigger tube, and talk about a prime reason to spend some cash on new gear. I'm just gonna pick up a new glass B.H.O. tube, maybe a 28 gram tube or something of the sort. I know they have them dirt cheap for some nice thick walled ones on greedbay. I'll probably pick up some more butane while I'm at it. If anyone has a quick link they can post for a nice tube I would appreciate that. I do say this though I've found some nice ones on greedbay extra thick for $45 shipped. Take er easy people, have a great weekend. Peace out.
 

hbbum

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Still a great looking plant, shame about the bum genetics but thats how it goes sometimes. You still get to reap the fruits of your labor :D
 

mycomaster

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I hear ya hbbum, it's not like it was a total waste or anything, just a little disappointing is all. When the oil starts coming in quantity I'll be in alot better mood ;-). I snapped a couple pics of some trimmed S.B., and a couple of what the tent looks like with my new lady in waiting in it. First off a couple of the S.B. flowers.
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Every pollen sac I've found has gotten tweezed. None of that in my oil, thank you.

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Those soft ties make it pretty easy to get right in there, and open a canopy up. Spread her out, and get alot more light in there for better flowers. i'll have some better colored pics later, i just wanted to show everyone the new lady, and how it all turned out. Everything happens for a purpose so I'm just rollin with it. peace and love.
 

mycomaster

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You gotta love technology. I just received a reminder from my smart phone to change my bulb, and to "Keep them lumens up!" LOL! Anyways, i'll be changing my bulb tonight when the lights go out. I like to keep a couple back-ups around just in case, but I even rotate them out when they get older or pass them to friends who can use them. "Willful waste brings woeful want!"~Stephen Marley I always pass stuff on I can't use, and try to keep money out of it. If I'm not gonna use might as well let somebody else. I know a couple people who aren't as fortunate as I am about changing bulbs every 10 weeks, and they end up with alot my old ones now. nothing really wrong with a 10 week old bulb to be honest, I'm just a little O.C.D. about the whole thing as of often is all. There are alot of different lights out there too. I bought a bunch of Sunlight Supply bulbs really cheap on greedbay. I was buying Sunleaves Optilume for around $65-$70 at the local hydro store, and just got sick of shelling that out every 3-4 months. now I replace my bulbs about every 10 weeks, and it only costs me around $20 a pop. I'm alot happier, and my plants seem to be happier as well.
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The ultra sun seems to have a better spectrum according to the awesome box graphics. What a joke guys, just get a good bulb that's enhanced spectrum, and 2000K-2700K at the most. Unless you just get yourself some leds, and forget about this bulb changing manure. Have a great day people. Peace and Love.
 

Mad Hamish

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Looking at the trimmed bud, I can tell you that it is at about the maturity most of the kids around here harvest at these days... I've had some serious beef with it for quite some time, charging top-dollar for cheese taken too early is just wrong. I'm talking about UD 15 per g for bud taken at this stage.
And you should see the indignant attitudes when I examine a bud, and point out all the under-developed calyxes and how the stigma stay white after the 'cure' (they think drying and curing is the same thing, so it's pre-mature bud just DRY, not cured). And then I plop it on my iPod scale (I have a scale that looks precisely like an iPod Nano, perfect for travel etc) to find a g is only .75 to .80 too.

The oil you are going to make of this will be beyond fabulous! If I were you I'd actually be pretty damn excited at this point not joking. And you'll get a really decent amount too mate. Going to be a BADASS few batches of perfect amber toffee :)
 

GandalfdaGreen

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Oil is the best man. I haven't been able to speak for the past few weeks since I started making oil. You guys did this to me. :lol:
 

mycomaster

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Looking at the trimmed bud, I can tell you that it is at about the maturity most of the kids around here harvest at these days... I've had some serious beef with it for quite some time, charging top-dollar for cheese taken too early is just wrong. I'm talking about UD 15 per g for bud taken at this stage.
And you should see the indignant attitudes when I examine a bud, and point out all the under-developed calyxes and how the stigma stay white after the 'cure' (they think drying and curing is the same thing, so it's pre-mature bud just DRY, not cured). And then I plop it on my iPod scale (I have a scale that looks precisely like an iPod Nano, perfect for travel etc) to find a g is only .75 to .80 too.

The oil you are going to make of this will be beyond fabulous! If I were you I'd actually be pretty damn excited at this point not joking. And you'll get a really decent amount too mate. Going to be a BADASS few batches of perfect amber toffee :)
The whole bunk weight thing I can almost handle. The whole bunk un-ripened flower thing is something that's hard to take. I don't want to pay top-dollar for unfinished flowers, shoot me. I would have let the Sour Blueberry go another 3 weeks if needed, I want the best she can offer, you know. My Blue O.G. is starting to knot up a little now, and show signs she's starting to finish for me. I always go by trich's anyways, they really let you know when your plant's done, or at least the qualities you're looking for. Yeah, I've had people look like they want to strangle me before when I popped a scope out, and started looking at their bud's for quality. Most people don't dig you giving an honest account of what you're seeing. It's usually not even their flowers, and they get pissed that you're not impressed, you know. It's not even like i'm giving them a play by play of what's wrong, I keep it to myself, they just don't want you to know it's crap, and give them any grief about it is what their problem is. They want to be able to sit there, and tell you it's fire or all that dumb crap. If you have a scope, and look for yourself then it's really hard for them to lie to your face, you know. That's THE problem right there. I've seen those iphone scales before, I like their craftiness. I used to have a round scale that was a beer can before. I'm so pumped about all this product for my oil making mis-adventures! My $ is a little tight right now so I'll probably be blasting all of this through my old tube in small batches, but that makes it easier for me to keep em all separate I guess. I love how the flowers melt in the tube, and out comes the amber heaven, wooo, I can't wait till I get a decent cure on this stuff! I'm gonna put the trim on a screen out in the sun today to dry them out a little quicker so I can do a small batch for my dang knee. I only have my daily oral doses left so I think I'll speed up a little trim to make a little pain meds, so to speak. I absolutely refuse to take pain killers, no F'in way! That crap is so EVIL, I don't even want to get into it. When I start to blast I'll take a ton of pics for everyone, so they can experience it all as well with me in a way. I can't even tell you guys how much I wish I could share stuff like this with you. The excitement of blasting the flowers in the tube, and then when you're scraping that dish with all the heavy resins in it, yeah! After that purge is over, and you remove the vac chamber lid to reveal that smell you have now. Exciting times for sure ahead. I really think this is gonna make the Skunk oil look like childs play guys. The flowers on the S.B. are really greasy like the Menage a Trois, so I have high hopes for a good end product here. Either way the smell, and taste will be right on par with alot of other oils I've made even with the immaturity of the flowers I have. When it was being trimmed it smelled like sweet, and sour earth kinda. A little hard to explain really, but I'm confident it will make good oil. Enjoy the rest of your weekend guys. Peace and love.
 

Mad Hamish

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Well I thought to share a pic of one of my batches :) This one was made using zero flowers, only some dry trim. The reason it looks so dark in places is it is a REALLY thick layer, and the psychedelic colours are my house walls, lawn etc as seen through a pyrex bowl of hash-oil... you will see where some was scraped off, the stuff scraped at that point was just under 2 grams. This one was dissolved in alcohol so no clean chucks to show off, it is my buddy's medicine for his melanoma, external use only...
 

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mycomaster

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Oil is the best man. I haven't been able to speak for the past few weeks since I started making oil. You guys did this to me. :lol:
ROFLMAO! I hear you brother, i've been pretty productive the last couple of days I've been out. I've also been sore as all get out too. It wasn't even really not getting stuff done, it was more just getting it done in slow motion, LOL. I'll be making a whole crap ton of oil in the near future. Like I said earlier, I put out my trim in the nice warm sun to try, and help the drying process some. I'm doing my flowers 100% old school dry, and cure. I just need something a little faster cause my knee is really banged up pretty bad, and I can't take any pain killers for it. I'm already a pretty sore person all the time, but when I get banged up some like this my nerves are friggin insane about it. I'm suppose to take zelnorm, lyrica, and all this other crap for my fibro, but it's all anti-deps, and it makes me feel like garbage. All the opiates are addictive, and also make you feel like crap so it doesn't leave me many options if I want to live even close to a normal life. it's really messed up that all my conditions leave me absolutely no choice of medications cause the side effects of each one make the others that much worse. I can just smoke a ton of cannabanoids, and live pretty happily, but that's illegal, and immoral, right? I completely wasted over 25 years of my life with all the western meds until I woke up, and decided to do it myself, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS! I refuse to waste another quarter century of my short life waiting for them to tell me I can grow some meds that keep me alive. Good grief I've been ranting alot lately, sorry about that everybody. I think with the heat we're having today I should be able to dry some of this trim out pretty good, and maybe make it into some oil by the end of tomorrow. Enjoy the beautiful day everyone. Peace and Love.

EDIT: I was posting when you were Hamish, and didn't see that crazy photo brother. That is a beautiful picture man. Really diggin it alot.
 

mycomaster

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I snapped a couple quickies of my flower tent a minute ago. The Iced grapefruit is adapting to the intense light of the 600+ Watts of the H.P.S. like a friggin champ guys! The Cindy99 took at least 2 days to adjust, but the I.G. already seems fine with it. I'm telling you guys, I really love this strain. She vegs like a maniac, and has the best structure, and vigor to her. Last time she was in a small 3 gallon container, and had been in it for a while with the same used up soil. i can't wait to see her this time in the 5 gal bucket, and all the nutes she could want ready for her, and at her disposal. I went a little lighter on the super soil this time as not to anger this one at all, but I think what she got should be more than adequate for her all through flower. This time I'm letting her go another week or so in flower. I'm also gonna hit her with more amendments through flowering this time to try, and bulk her some as she can take it, and I know it this time around. I was reading through my water log, and noticed I didn't start her on Bio-Bud or Meta-K until the 4th week for some reason last time, and I really think that would help some with her bulk, and density. I really like to make cocktails for my girls out of bottle nutes using them at 1/4-1/2 strength every once in a while. I really try to avoid anything for the last 2-3 weeks though as I'm not into heavy flushing, and don't want anything in there lingering. I really like a good tea over anything in flower though as I always see best results from those. I'm also pretty sold on my Strapped from Botanicaire I really like the way it livens up the soil for me, and my girls. I made a light dose the other day, and sprayed my cooking soil with it from a backpack sprayer. Needless to say I had to soak it afterwards to clean the dang sprayer, but it's worth it I.M.O. I looked in on the soil today, and it already has slight mycelium growth on it, and this will only explode from here, and get the soil going again. You have to be careful though how much liquid you put in your soil as not to make mud if you don't have a double tub with holes in one, but even then you have to have balance. I prefer a single bin to keep it all in one environment, but would change this depending on the "natural environment" I'm in per se. When you're dealing with soil microbes, and fungi, and such they have alot different needs than plants do, so you have to take that into consideration when amending your soil, and wanting to get it done efficiently. They can be a fussier bunch than any group of MJ plants you'll ever come across, believe me when I say that guys. Given the right condition though, which really doesn't take alot of effort to achieve, they can be happy, and thrive for quite some time with the right food available to them. They reproduce like nobody's business too, so keeping your cultures alive is pretty easy to do as well. Anyways, lately my favorite smoke has been to mix the Iced Grapefruit with some Menage a Trois. It really packs a punch to the head, and lasts for quite some time through chores. I'll be happy to get some oil back in my med routine, but my flowers will always be my favorite medication I think. Just hard to beat a mouthful of yummy!
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^^Iced Grapefruit^^ Some of the pics it looks like she has a Ca/Mg def, but it's the light behind her leafs. The last picture gives you a better idea of her true color, and she's quite the healthy girl.(so far) Nice big sativa dom leafs with those petals in the rear of the leaf that swing out like handle bar mustaches kinda. This really is a majestic plant I.M.O., just gorgeous.
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^^This is my Cinderella99^^ Huge indie leafs on her that will pick up every ray the sun offers(or my hps bulb) Strong structure about her, and the beginning of huge flowers. She has alot going on under the skirt, but in a week I'll get down there, and give her a good trimming, LOL. I like my women shaved, but still looking like women, you know. A bald woman no matter where she's bald, is kinda weird. Cancer withheld. Anyways!
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Last, but definitely not least is the Green Poison. Yes I know she has a slight Ca/Mg thing, but the light is actually making it look worse than it is in the past picture here. I wasn't able to get a good one of her trichs before the timer went off to take down the hood blocker 3000, LOL. I try to not keep it on for too long, and with my shaky hands it can take a few snaps to get a decent pic. Oh well, there they are in all their glory folks. Enjoy your day. Peace and love.
 

mycomaster

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The Iced Grapefruit is really doing stellar so far in the flower tent. She's stood up to the higher intensity light like a hero, and has now made up her mind to start flowering with a vigor. This, and the Green Poison are winners so far in my book. They're both very healthy, and vigorous. They also both seem to have about the same indica/sativa lean with the Green Poison being a little heavier on the indie side though. I got some better pictures of her trichs today. As you can see from them already, she's gonna be a frosty girl people. It seems everyone is happy as far as Ca/Mg goes right now with the dose they all got yesterday. I never remember having issues like this in the past with all the Ca/Mg B.S. What in the world is going on lately? Did all the soil companies forget to add lime or whatever in their soils? Good Grief.

Anyways, besides all that everyone is pretty happy, and coming along. The Blue O.G. is on day 49, and not suppose to need more than 60 for any pheno. Her colas are quite heavy with alot of lean to them now. I've supported them quite a bit, but it hasn't been high on the colas so they have some lean still to their tips. She's already starting to get little foxtails on her higher flowers. Her calyx's are swelling like crazy now, and getting so tight, and dense.

Cinderella is doing pretty awesome too. She was trying to get a Mg def I think, but I nipped that crap in the butt real quick. I've been waiting to get her back in my flower tent for quite some time so she'll be pampered like spoiled actress! I didn't even top the crap out of her, I wanted big dense colas to the max from her. She has a total of only 8 terminal colas, and whatever else pops up. This pheno doesn't seem to want to branch much so she'll be all big flowers in the end hopefully. She has a real nice tight, even canopy on her, and doesn't stretch everywhere or go wild. Very reserved growth that when looked at is an intelligent use of energy. She doesn't grow off shoots all willy nilly, and wasteful of energy. When she puts out growth it's of purpose, and smartly thought out. Just huge pistils on her like her leafs. To the pics!
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This last picture of the Iced Grapefruit is a little out of focus, but it shows how she just explodes in growth at the nodes pretty quickly. She really is just an elegant plant guys. Tons of healthy growth, and just fast, fast, fast.
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Cinderella99 is a real beautiful strain with some very larges petals, and leafs. She'll start trichin up like crazy here in a bit. She's only on day 11 of actual 12 hours of light, and dark. You can't really tell in the pics, but she has some huge pistils on her. When you rub her stem she has the most brilliant smell of skunky goodness.
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The Green Poison is really coming along now with some nice trich production. A pretty quick plant to catch on.
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This is the Blue O.G. She's just now getting a little fade to her. I watered her yesterday with only water no sugars, CaMg, food or anything. From here on out it's nothing, but the water so she eats herself alive. She'll have plenty of food to feed on off of her leafs, and also what's remaining in the soil itself too. She's foxtailing, and chunkimg up with some nice knuckle looking flowers.
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Group shot! Have a blessed day everyone. Peace and love.
 

mycomaster

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I was checking the trichs on the S.B. and was blown away to find a crap ton of amber on her. I didn't know what I was looking at at first, I almost didn't believe it. I looked around the room for a yellower kind of light source, nothing. My usb scope is lit by six blue/white led's so I know it's not them. The trich's are actually that color. Alot of amber in there for being at I think 43 days maybe. She was quite a fast maturing plant, and I had no dang idea. I can never get scope pics to load, but I'll try a little later. I was just checking so I could go make OIL! Muahahaha! The Devils Lube itself CannaOil! J/K guys. i'll be blasting quite a bit since i have a ton of dry trim, and it's some frosty stuff people, and for the quick dry it smells pretty damn good too. It smells like a bushel of fruit that went bad. Sweet, yet sour, and pungent. Should make some interesting oil. I really feel the potency will be there as well with so many trichome's being mature, and even over-ripe I.M.O. on some. You know what kind of pics I'll have later. Peace out PEEPS.
 
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