Huckabee Straw Poll- paul winning
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abandonconflict
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http://www.nytimes.com/1981/06/14/u...bpoena-in-trial-of-3-alleged-mercenaries.html
Here it is in NYTimes. Sure they probably spin it, but a subpoena is a matter of public record and it is therefore a verifiable claim that NYTimes made. It is extremely improbable that he didn't know who Don Black was when he publicly refused to give back a campaign contribution and posed for that photo. It isn't a crime to have racist friends and followers. Why are you trying so hard to deny that Rawn Pawl has a former KKK grand wizard as a friend and supporter?
Here it is in NYTimes. Sure they probably spin it, but a subpoena is a matter of public record and it is therefore a verifiable claim that NYTimes made. It is extremely improbable that he didn't know who Don Black was when he publicly refused to give back a campaign contribution and posed for that photo. It isn't a crime to have racist friends and followers. Why are you trying so hard to deny that Rawn Pawl has a former KKK grand wizard as a friend and supporter?
nontheist
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Because you haven't provided one fucking shred of evidence he was involved, and you know you can't because it doesn't exist or it would be in the news. The stories are speculation with ZERO information on the court records and I am sure they don't want them as it would make their story fall apart. That is exactly why it wasn't plastered all over the media during the debates! What you posted above is conjecture with zero proof. He wasn't served a subpoena the judge refused, I am sure on grounds of evidence. The better questions are, you know this is some really flaky shit why are you trying so hard to make bullshit dogshit? As well as the media is at flinging shit, this one was a total failure which means there is no story.
abandonconflict
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I posted a picture of him posing with his buddy, former KKK grand wizard Don Black and the response was that the turtle fucker from Texas didn't know the guy. I then provided this story to verify that indeed, he knew the guy. You know what sounds like flaky shit? Saying that Rawn Pawl didn't know who Don Black was when he posed for a picture with him.
You just look like an idiot for saying that.
You just look like an idiot for saying that.
GOD HERE
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This whole thread is dogshit.
nontheist
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It looks to me you're the only idiot here wishing something to be true without providing any evidence. A picture doesn't not make a man a racist or a member of a KKK group. You are seriously fucking reaching.
abandonconflict
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You are projecting that i am reaching. All I said was that former KKK grand wizard Don Black is Rawn Pawl's friend and supporter.
nontheist
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Dr. Paul stands for freedom, peace, prosperity and the protection of inalienable individual rights for every American. All of our campaigns energy is dedicated to spreading the message of liberty and limited government, and we do not spend time screening donors or blocking websites. We don't know who Don Black is, and pay him no attention. If a small number individuals who hold racist beliefs want to waste their money by giving to Dr. Paul, a man who stands firmly against their small minded ideologies, then the campaign will simply use those funds to protect freedom, peace and civil liberties across our Nation.
Sounds like the campaign refused to return the whopping 500 bucks they so badly needed. Anyone can take 5 minutes to look at this to see how twisted this story is, it's obvious why main stream didn't touch it.
Sounds like the campaign refused to return the whopping 500 bucks they so badly needed. Anyone can take 5 minutes to look at this to see how twisted this story is, it's obvious why main stream didn't touch it.
nontheist
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Abandon I may be an asshole but I don't like bullshit spin, twisted stories, or outright lies. This has the meter pegged at bullshit, if you're going to condemn a man as a racist with ties to a cult you are going to have to come up with some fucking evidence instead of a picture at a convention.
GOD HERE
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What he stands for is the unalienable right of the business class to shit unopposed on the rest of society.
nontheist
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That's another debate and many people agree. He came off as an angry old man, but I fucking loved is marijuana views.
nontheist
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How many people did he shake hands and take pictures that night at the convention? This story is bullshit and you know it, anyone that looks at can make the conclusion. You're beginning to sound like a libtard.
[h=1]“If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.”― Adolf Hitler[/h]I am beginning to question who the real extremist on this forum are.
abandonconflict
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nontheist
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I truly love the shit these same media authors that are putting up about Ron Paul.
Libertarians who, in a democracy, seek to limit the power of government are seeking to break up a central freedom of the people -- the freedom to rule themselves. In a democracy, libertarianism isn't about freedom. It's about denying people the right to government themselves. It's an anti-democratic principle.
Everyone understands the sentiment, "Get government out of my life!"
But in a democracy, the people are the government -- or are supposed to be, depending on how much friction is being created by corruption.
The anti-democratic principles of libertarianism ultimately make people like Ron Paul ideal fellow travelers for the Klan and the American Nazi Party. And society's wider embrace of figures like Ayn Rand have perversely made us vulnerable to accepting authoritarianism in our own government.
Libertarians who, in a democracy, seek to limit the power of government are seeking to break up a central freedom of the people -- the freedom to rule themselves. In a democracy, libertarianism isn't about freedom. It's about denying people the right to government themselves. It's an anti-democratic principle.
Everyone understands the sentiment, "Get government out of my life!"
But in a democracy, the people are the government -- or are supposed to be, depending on how much friction is being created by corruption.
The anti-democratic principles of libertarianism ultimately make people like Ron Paul ideal fellow travelers for the Klan and the American Nazi Party. And society's wider embrace of figures like Ayn Rand have perversely made us vulnerable to accepting authoritarianism in our own government.
abandonconflict
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Therefore he didn't know who Don Black was when he posed for that picture?
That is what you are suggesting right?
um, that would be the "southern avenger"..a real charmer
nontheist
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How would I know? The only people reporting this are left wing extremist trying to make an obvious bullshit stick with careful wording and spin.
abandonconflict
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nontheist
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No I don't. I have looked through news articles and wiki and so far nothing suggests they have seen each other face to face prior. It sounds like a rhetorical question so instead of playing ridiculous games just post it.
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