Sanjay Gupta changes stance on medical marijuana

[Samwell Seed Well]

internet can hurts kids .....with atheist logic he shouldnt be here


i mean wtf, is it super duper rubber logic day

So it's my perception that pit bulls account for 2/3 of killings annually? What a fucking goon.

a statistic without an intelligent interpreter or concise conclusion can be as dangerous as any gun,substance or animal

best just bow out, your comprehension skills are lacking

 

[echelon1k1]

Dangerous is biting. The breed is not ancient. law enforcement uses them for a reason. A golden retriever and a german shepherd are distincty different in their behavior no?

law enforcement & military utilise certain breeds because of specific traits; it doesn't always come down to DNA, but a mixture or nature and nurture to achieve a real working dog. I have experience with MWD and they're chosen through a PGBP or Psycho-Genetic Breeding program that seeks to breed dogs that are quiet, light and robust w/ strong retrieval and loyalty drive and obviously accustomed to explosions, gunfire, etc. These make some of the best ED dogs.

 

[Wavels]

Big Time thread derailment.
Interesting topic though.

 

[nontheist]

your belief is unfounded


pit bulls are not a breed tard


and cars are much more deadly per capita.........go fight them

fucking chicken hawk

My belief is unfounded by facts you mean? I agree that cars are more deadly, but that isn't the subject at hand is it?

 

[Wavels]

Who is gonna start a dog thread? Politics is the proper place for it.
It can be an amazingly divisive issue.
I love dogs, but......

 

[burgertime2010]

Nonetheless, the population of each breed is not factored into these percentages of attack stats. Perhaps terrier mixes are simply more common in the U.S. and thus more likely to accrue negative stats. Asshole owners do create violent dogs and pitbulls seem to appeal to a lot them. Actually, the most aggressive dogs are small ones and never are reported. Society has a raging hard-on against these animals. I have been around pitbulls my entire life. My point is statistical evidence charging bull terriers of violence is not representative of the actual situation.

 

[desert dude]

Personally, I am in the market for a Gupta-hound. When well trained they are able to sniff out low THC, high CBD cannabis suitable for seizure suppression. None have ever been reported to bite a human. If I am able to find one and buy it, I plan to name it Khutrapoli.

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

My belief( nontheist) is unfounded by facts you mean? I agree that cars are more deadly, but that isn't the subject at hand is it?

huh atheist beliefs.......

and yes, statistics require intelligent/carefull interpretation...vs bias persuasive agenda...something this atheist(nontheist) is lacking(intelligence)

 

[burgertime2010]

So it's my perception that pit bulls account for 2/3 of killings annually? What a fucking goon.

These are the lucky ones.

That includes mixes.

 

[echelon1k1]

says the guy who cant read a studies subject
http://nationalcanineresearchcouncil...F%20Report.pdf

Investigative Reports
of
Dog Bite

ill do what i want how i want elitist

and my position was set long before your issues with my assertion

You say elitist like its a bad thing... Thank you

That may be so, but your position was an attempt to undermine mine with a paper extract that supports my position.

I stated no breeds are dangerous and I stand by it. Not the first time I've stated it and it will not be the last, from what I've read and experienced.

From the paper you posted;

There is no scientific evidence that one kind of dog is more likely to injure a human being than another kind of dog

 

[burgertime2010]

huh atheist beliefs.......

and yes, statistics require intelligent/carefull interpretation...vs bias persuasive agenda...something this atheist(nontheist) is lacking(intelligence)

Statistics are the easiest way to lie

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

You say elitist like its a bad thing... Thank you

That may be so, but your position was an attempt to undermine mine with a paper extract that supports my position.

I stated no breeds are dangerous and I stand by it. Not the first time I've stated it and it will not be the last, from what I've read and experienced.

From the paper you posted;

i may have been over zealous with my initial comment

but you are a bogan

and i agree with you

has Aus made any breed laws?

 

[nontheist]

law enforcement & military utilise certain breeds because of specific traits; it doesn't always come down to DNA, but a mixture or nature and nurture to achieve a real working dog. I have experience with MWD and they're chosen through a PGBP or Psycho-Genetic Breeding program that seeks to breed dogs that are quiet, light and robust w/ strong retrieval and loyalty drive and obviously accustomed to explosions, gunfire, etc. These make some of the best ED dogs.

Traits are always entwined in DNA, they may skip here and there but you can generally predict outcome when closely monitored. Breeders have worked with this since the beginning to say anything different would defy the entire select breeding practices. Now it is true you can work predispositioned breeds to act differently but it takes far more work and knowledge than a household handler can produce and even then you didn't eradicate the traits it from the genetic line. The offspring will fall back in line with the genetic traits when the extensive training practices decrease. The fact is a pit bull will always be more prone to attack than a golden retriever because of their genetic traits, there is no way to avoid this.

 

[echelon1k1]

i may have been over zealous with my initial comment

but you are a bogan

and i agree with you

has Aus made any breed laws?

Well which is it... Bogan or elitist? The terms are mutually exclusive...

Yes, AUS has brought in BSL or breed specific legislation based on nothing but public opinion spurred on by the Australian Veterinary Association. Banned breeds here are as follows;

American Pitbull or Pitbull Terriers, Japanese Tosas, Dogo Argentino (Argentinean fighting dogs) and Fila Brasiliero (Brazilian fighting dogs)

The public face of the BSL here is a politician who also happens to be a registered and practicing vet. He is also supportive of what is dubbed a "kill test" that determines if a dog should be put down when surrendered to or picked up by the pound. Some negative traits that score badly include on said test include "jumping up or over excitement"... which is fucking bullshit.

The fact people here don't look at the facts and support BSL is quite shameful for me as an Australian it also a knee jerk reaction I can only describe as ignorance and discrimination. Have I said it's also bullshit public manipulation that isn't backed up by science or statistics? Akin to fear mongering...

The dogs here that account for the most bites are actually smaller dogs. People think it's cute when a 6kg dog jumps on you or yaps at you, when a 60kg dog does it people don't think it's so cute and funny...

 

[Flaming Pie]

When I was still working, I felt bad leaving my older Doberman and Rottweiler at home all day without a noon visit, although they didn't seem too upset when I walked in, sleeping upside down on the couch. I do agree with you FP, but didn't he say it was only once? I wouldn't think the pup would have such a drastic and permanent behavior change after one time. Maybe I missed something.

He said he left it alone at night once. He leaves it alone everyday for 8 hours outside.

 

[Flaming Pie]

Yes you can, stop repeating your b/s...

What do you mean bullshit? Why are you gonna get a pup just to leave it outside at 2-3 months for 8 hours a day?

Get a fucking cat. They require far less attention and are more alert at night anyways.

 

[nontheist]

That includes mixes.

no it doesn't

 

[echelon1k1]

What do you mean bullshit? Why are you gonna get a pup just to leave it outside at 2-3 months for 8 hours a day?

Get a fucking cat. They require far less attention and are more alert at night anyways.

Yes you can and you stated "even with a companion animal" in this case another dog... A dog and a dog = Pack / Human and Dog = Pack

While human interaction is paramount, leaving to go to work etc is a normal part of a dogs interaction with a human. Been this way for a while now and when you factor in separation anxiety and employ methods to deal with these issues it equals a happy, healthy dog. Canna said the pit was with him all the time except when he started making him sleep alone.

While I'm not gonna place blame squarely on canna, IMHO he potentially didn't see the warning signs and rectify the unwanted and detrimental behaviour, I would love to get a history of him before he came to live with canna as the behaviours the pit exhibited are the symptoms of a problem not the problem itself...

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

Well which is it... Bogan or elitist? The terms are mutually exclusive...

not really


nonathiest with his beliefs

proved improbable plausible today

 

[nontheist]

not really


nonathiest with his beliefs

proved improbable plausible today

I see you're still too dumb to differentiate facts from beliefs. Keep covering your eyes saying it can't be true, while you're drowning in evidence. It makes for true entertainment.