NietzscheKeen
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You know the guy that has that has to have a small Anthony.
You know the guy that has that has to have a small Anthony.
Do you have any citations to prove it's not admissible in a court of law in the USA? I can't think of a single scenario that you would even want to use it in a court of law.I just don't really feel that humans are really measuring the universe as a whole, I believe humans are measuring what we can observe in space, i.e. the remnants of the big bang, but what is that void that the "universe" is expanding into?. It can not be just nothing, Just like the big bang just could not happen if there was nothing there to cause it. I put "universe" in quotes because scientist want to consider the collective galaxies around us as the whole universe. I do not believe that. I think the universe is beyond our comprehension at this time in our evolutionary path. I feel there are other dimensions right here that we can not perceive and that the bigger picture is out of our realm at the moment.
My professors never really had good comebacks to a lot of the questions I would pose throughout school, but we still had a lot of good conversations. They would repeat that tired line of "science is facts that can be proven", that science uses specific dates not ball park figures, but they will say confidently that this fossil is x million years old give or take x amount of years. Ask them how they know, they say radiocarbon dating or laws of superposition, but how do you prove the results are right. You don't, you ball park estimate. Are these estimations repeatable and show similar results, yes, but it is still a ball park guess that can not be proven at all.(why radiocarbon dating evidence is not permissible in a court of law in the USA)
The riddles of space are ones that are open to debate, that is half the fun of it. I take the motto of Hasan of the hashshasins 1094 ad "Nothing is real and all is allowed." Ancient knowledge of the secret societies.
Like I said I'm a history major, not an astrophysicist, so I just piece together the fact I do know of the past to make educated guesses. After all the gaps and unexplained, not to mention all the misinformation that is being propagated still by schools all throughout the USA, both past and present. Things like pilgrims settling America in present, or white society teaching that African American were inferior to whites.
I take everything I hear with a grain of salt. Nice chatting with the different minds. Cheers guys.
You sound suspiciously like nevaeh. Completely rigid and unwilling to accept any evidence to change your view, your mind is made up based on your personal experience. I guess that is the end of this discussion.I have real life experiences that are "unexplainable". I don't waste my time to go into it because in life you have to see it to believe it. My experiences have nothing to do with space or aliens, but still I know what I experienced and no amount of people's claims will change that.
That is not how this works. YOU are the one that made the claim, not me. I did try to fact check it and I cannot find anything about carbon dating not being admissible in court. Until you can provide evidence to support your claim I will assume it is false.If you want to go fact check answers are out there. I'm not positive of what documentary it was, but it was about the shroud of the turin and it's authenticity in which someone radiocarbon dated. Though I could be mistaken, I will say fairly.
Well, that explains everything.I just got off the phone with Moller, and he admits to visiting Neveah from a saucer and spying on him from a nearby rooftop. He said it's because he knows he is christ. So, we were both wrong and right, no aliens, but George is the son of god. Didn't see any of this coming...
Your saying the guy with the flying car has a small penis?^^^
You know the guy that has that has to have a small Anthony.
You can call Me George. That's short for Christ George Manuel Oliveira, which is My title and full Name.You sound suspiciously like nevaeh. .
There you go again. You have demonstrated again and again that you have no criteria for accepting something as a belief. You believe space is infinite. You simply leave it at that and then go on for 2 paragraphs with the ramblings of a delusional mind. What leads you to believe space is infinite? How did you get to that conclusion?I believe space is infinite. And if space is infinite than that means there is a whole lot of space. With that being said, our known universe could be an infinitesimally small point in this space. And if God or whatever created this big bang, than whos to say God, or whatever, didn't create an "infinite" amount of big bangs in an infinitely large amount of space? The other universes could be so far apart that they will never be detected by other universes because space just goes on forever. And if the universes are 10^9999999999999999999999999999999999(etc) light years apart than what does that matter to the Creator of the universes? The Creator might have placed the universes so far apart for a good reason. But I believe the fact still is that the known universe is expanding into empty space, but its still space that can not have an end. If space did have an end then what would be beyond those borders?
We may never know what is beyond our known universe, but if the Creator can make one universe from "nothing" than who is to say that He hasn't created an "infinite" amount. Whos to say the Creator hasn't been making big bangs or universes for an "infinite" amount of time? Whos to say the Creator doesn't still make big bangs or universes and will continue forever?
This all might just be speculation but there might be some truth to it.
~PEACE~
I will refer to you as nevaeh only. You certainly are not the only crazy person I know. You are welcome to converse with me, but leave the bullshit at the door.But I can assure you that I'm not him. I'm not the only crazy person on the internet you know. But you should welcome the crazies because they might just have something good to say that's crazy cool. I would rather talk to crazies that have positive new things to say than a bunch of assholes.
~PEACE~
I believe space is infinite because its the best guess that I have.There you go again. You have demonstrated again and again that you have no criteria for accepting something as a belief. You believe space is infinite. You simply leave it at that and then go on for 2 paragraphs with the ramblings of a delusional mind. What leads you to believe space is infinite? How did you get to that conclusion?
But you are WELCOME to refer to Me as George. I like that better but I doubt you care.I will refer to you as nevaeh only. You certainly are not the only crazy person I know. You are welcome to converse with me, but leave the bullshit at the door.
Exactly.There you go again. You have demonstrated again and again that you have no criteria for accepting something as a belief. You believe space is infinite. You simply leave it at that and then go on for 2 paragraphs with the ramblings of a delusional mind. What leads you to believe space is infinite? How did you get to that conclusion?
You make no sense at all, I sound nothing like Nevah. I simply explained my take. I never once said my thoughts were set in stone, In fact I believe I said ALL things are possible.You sound suspiciously like nevaeh. Completely rigid and unwilling to accept any evidence to change your view, your mind is made up based on your personal experience. I guess that is the end of this discussion.
That is not how this works. YOU are the one that made the claim, not me. I did try to fact check it and I cannot find anything about carbon dating not being admissible in court. Until you can provide evidence to support your claim I will assume it is false.
Sounds a lot like what I was saying, Cheers Gotta love Michio Kaku. So Guy Homer Simpson again I say you make no sense, since my views are shared by other theorist.We don't know exactly what the universe is expanding into but I think you are more right than wrong. If there is not just our one universe, then there must be something outside of it. I looked before but could not find the quote where Michio Kaku is talking about our concept of 'nothing' and the concept of 'space.' He's standing inside NASA's huge vacuum chamber and pointing out that even if every particle of air is removed from the room, that is one level of nothingness, but not only do we have virtual particle pairs popping into existence but we still have space, we still have measurable dimensions. He points out that if it is measurable, then it is not nothing, empty space itself is a thing.
He then goes on to explain what you were saying, that the universe is expanding into something, but it is not 3 dimensional space, because that's what our universe is made up of, so it is another level of nothing, a void that is either dimensionless or possibly higher dimensions.
When talking about measurements, most cosmologists agree with you about measuring the observable universe, that there could be more out there but has already expanded past the point where light would ever reach us, making a boundary condition. The 13.7 billion year radius is not the size of the universe but the Hubble distance, a boundary, past which we cannot learn anything about since we will never see the light from objects beyond that border.
Here's a good article that points out even astronomers get it wrong when discussing these things. http://www.mso.anu.edu.au/~charley/papers/LineweaverDavisSciAm.pdf
It is very possible that we can still get evidence of things that occur beyond our universe. The whole investigation into why gravity appears so weak is one of those things that could lead to evidence of other dimensions. So just because we cannot see light beyond the Hubble distance, do not give up on the possibility that nature could reveal herself in other ways.
http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/the-start-of-the-universe-with-string-theory.html
I did do a search and a whole lot of stuff popped up, and not a single page I read said that radio carbon dating was not permissible in court.You make no sense at all, I sound nothing like Nevah. I simply explained my take. I never once said my thoughts were set in stone, In fact I believe I said ALL things are possible.
I've seen every Youtube video, interview with tyson/hawkins and so on. I made valid points that you cannot refute so you just call me names. I can see who is the one with the closed mind that is already made up, and it is not me. Good luck in school, next month.
You type radiocarbon dating allowable in court in yahoo search and many results pop up, it's amazing: Here is one from eopinions.
There are ten reported federal cases which make reference to carbon dating. They occur outside of South Caroline. You can review them here: http://tinyurl.com/8yp2odf
And on that very same page that popped up guess what was third on the list?: http://www.shroud.com/nature.htm
Like I said I may have remembered wrong on the permissibility of the carbon dating results that the research team came up with, but I'm sure it was something to the tune of "this doesn't prove anything" legally.
This is what you said. Which BTW I think sounds suspiciously like nevaeh.I never once said my thoughts were set in stone, In fact I believe I said ALL things are possible.
but still I know what I experienced and no amount of people's claims will change that.
You are a child. I stated several times that I could very well be mistaken about the permissibility, after my first post about.I did do a search and a whole lot of stuff popped up, and not a single page I read said that radio carbon dating was not permissible in court.
I am also reading the court cases you just posted and I still have yet to find any evidence to support that claim. In fact the first case that I just spent about 10 minutes reading through seems to use radiocarbon dating of the skeleton in question. It should be far more readily accessible, especially if you are putting the onus on others to verify your claim.
Also what names did I call you? I said you sound like nevaeh.
This is what you said. Which BTW I think sounds suspiciously like nevaeh.
You are right, I think my judgement was too harsh and too premature.You are a child. I stated several times that I could very well be mistaken about the permissibility, after my first post about.
And this stupid stuff about "BTW that sounds similar to that nutjob".... I've only read two sentences in that guy's sad attempt at attention, some nutty ass posts about him seeing an alien on the roof or some dumb crap.
If you are indulging Nevaeh by reading his post and responding to him, that says more about your mentality then it does his.
I said my views and opinions are molded by my experiences with a couple of those experiences being unexplainable. I don't go into what those events were because that is irrelevant to this conversation.
Calling me completely rigid, is calling me names. Your opinion based on a couple post.