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In response to the baby killed by 2 black teens...

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
not sure what you're trying to prove with that graph.

i have a graph that looks exactly like it. the only difference is instead of measuring crime by race, it measures poverty by race.

otherwise, it looks exactly the same, as you can see:


I seen a dude at the grocery store using his food stamp card. He wore a fucking ROLEX and drove away in a Mercedes. I never thought the stories were true when I would hear them, but damn. Poverty can sure pay well.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
nope, i'm just waiting until it's time to close up the greenhouse so i can head off to the county fair and eat shitty food.

i'm betting that i have the tallest corn and sunflower in the county again this year, but that is yet to be seen.
i was nowhere near tallest corn or sunflower this year, they had some corn that looked to be 12-14 feet tall.

i would have won tallest "home garden" corn stalk though by about a foot. so that's something.
 

Julius Caesar

Active Member
not sure what you're trying to prove with that graph.

i have a graph that looks exactly like it. the only difference is instead of measuring crime by race, it measures poverty by race.
That is why we need to deal with crime and other social problems on an economic basis - not a racial one. I am with you all the way on economics - the ultra-rich can afford to pay a shit load more in taxes - like freakin' Jimmy Carter rates on Mitt Romney types and corporations. However, once that damn race card comes out I want to vomit. Minus the race card the coalition of folks that would rebalance the economic scales are a force to be respected. All this race baiting does is fracture us into squabbling groups that have limited voice and power.
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
You don't sign up for the illegal free worker program anymore to work your fields? I personally don't care if it's racist. I'd sign up for the free illegal maid service if it was offered.
Illegal? Hell no. I'm on a job program where unemployed LEGAL immigrants who are having trouble getting a job can work for me for 6 months. They get paid a good wage (18.50 an hour) and the government subsidizes their pay 100% for the first 6 months, after which if I like the employee I can keep them on permanent. I fire them after the 6 months every time and hire a different worker each time. That way I get good employees who work hard that I do not ever have to pay for, Taxpayers pay for it. As long as you hire a new guy every 6 months it can be perpetuated as long as the program remains in effect. Usually the same guy will work for me 12 months out of every 24, they go back home during their 6 months off and come back and get rehired after 6 more, as long as they can meet the requirements to stay in the program ( fog a mirror).

I get the work done, for free (Not really since I have to pay for the fuel and other things, plus I feed them and give them beer after a 16 hour day), they make a good wage, good enough to only work half the year if they choose. We all get the product to market for a good profit every year. Oh sure, taxpayers are throwing their money away, but its a government program intended to help discouraged workers so it must be good right?

Its way better than paying for your own labor out of your own pocket.

During harvest season I just pay the custom combiners to come through. My own Combine was sold last year for $180K, which will pay for years and years of custom work.
I never have to worry about competition, Government is subsidizing my crop to the tune of several six figures per year in profits. paid for by taxpayers. Then government FORCES you to use my product.

I don't have to do shit really, to make bank.

People wonder why there are so few american farms nowadays, its because farmers and ranchers think they can do this job by themselves without government. Its been my experience that if you use the government programs available and comply with all the idiotic qualifiers, the government will funnel other people's hard earned dollars to you with hardly any effort required on your part.

Some people might call it farmer welfare, but I am expected to produce something, unlike welfare which has no requirements other than being poor.
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
Illegal? Hell no. I'm on a job program where unemployed LEGAL immigrants who are having trouble getting a job can work for me for 6 months. They get paid a good wage (18.50 an hour) and the government subsidizes their pay 100% for the first 6 months, after which if I like the employee I can keep them on permanent. I fire them after the 6 months every time and hire a different worker each time. That way I get good employees who work hard that I do not ever have to pay for, Taxpayers pay for it. As long as you hire a new guy every 6 months it can be perpetuated as long as the program remains in effect. Usually the same guy will work for me 12 months out of every 24, they go back home during their 6 months off and come back and get rehired after 6 more, as long as they can meet the requirements to stay in the program ( fog a mirror).

I get the work done, for free (Not really since I have to pay for the fuel and other things, plus I feed them and give them beer after a 16 hour day), they make a good wage, good enough to only work half the year if they choose. We all get the product to market for a good profit every year. Oh sure, taxpayers are throwing their money away, but its a government program intended to help discouraged workers so it must be good right?

Its way better than paying for your own labor out of your own pocket.

During harvest season I just pay the custom combiners to come through. My own Combine was sold last year for $180K, which will pay for years and years of custom work.
I never have to worry about competition, Government is subsidizing my crop to the tune of several six figures per year in profits. paid for by taxpayers. Then government FORCES you to use my product.

I don't have to do shit really, to make bank.

People wonder why there are so few american farms nowadays, its because farmers and ranchers think they can do this job by themselves without government. Its been my experience that if you use the government programs available and comply with all the idiotic qualifiers, the government will funnel other people's hard earned dollars to you with hardly any effort required on your part.

Some people might call it farmer welfare, but I am expected to produce something, unlike welfare which has no requirements other than being poor.
If you're paying for the tit, you might aswell suck it.
 

Canna Sylvan

Well-Known Member
Nodrama, so what you're telling me is liberals like Dookie lied to me and legals pick fruit too. Illegals don't all of suden get rich with the citizensip golden ticket? That's racist!
 

echelon1k1

New Member
Illegal? Hell no. I'm on a job program where unemployed LEGAL immigrants who are having trouble getting a job can work for me for 6 months. They get paid a good wage (18.50 an hour) and the government subsidizes their pay 100% for the first 6 months, after which if I like the employee I can keep them on permanent. I fire them after the 6 months every time and hire a different worker each time. That way I get good employees who work hard that I do not ever have to pay for, Taxpayers pay for it. As long as you hire a new guy every 6 months it can be perpetuated as long as the program remains in effect. Usually the same guy will work for me 12 months out of every 24, they go back home during their 6 months off and come back and get rehired after 6 more, as long as they can meet the requirements to stay in the program ( fog a mirror).

I get the work done, for free (Not really since I have to pay for the fuel and other things, plus I feed them and give them beer after a 16 hour day), they make a good wage, good enough to only work half the year if they choose. We all get the product to market for a good profit every year. Oh sure, taxpayers are throwing their money away, but its a government program intended to help discouraged workers so it must be good right?

Its way better than paying for your own labor out of your own pocket.

During harvest season I just pay the custom combiners to come through. My own Combine was sold last year for $180K, which will pay for years and years of custom work.
I never have to worry about competition, Government is subsidizing my crop to the tune of several six figures per year in profits. paid for by taxpayers. Then government FORCES you to use my product.

I don't have to do shit really, to make bank.

People wonder why there are so few american farms nowadays, its because farmers and ranchers think they can do this job by themselves without government. Its been my experience that if you use the government programs available and comply with all the idiotic qualifiers, the government will funnel other people's hard earned dollars to you with hardly any effort required on your part.

Some people might call it farmer welfare, but I am expected to produce something, unlike welfare which has no requirements other than being poor.
Hey ND, just wanted to ask are all the benefits above given to farmers alone? or are there extra perks for vets turned farmers?
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Nodrama, so what you're telling me is liberals like Dookie lied to me and legals pick fruit too. Illegals don't all of suden get rich with the citizensip golden ticket? That's racist!

You didnt read anything he wrote

He wouldnt pay anyone 18.50 an hour. The taxpayers do. If he had to pay those wages he wouldnt hire anyone.
 

Canna Sylvan

Well-Known Member
You didnt read anything he wrote

He wouldnt pay anyone 18.50 an hour. The taxpayers do. If he had to pay those wages he wouldnt hire anyone.
I think you're the one with the mental illness, not me. I already said NoDrama's workers are a government subsidy. Government is the one taking advantage of the illegals, not me. The racist policies are government. It's government who makes the illegal policy the way it is and then doesn't even enforce it. The reason is to give corporation farmers free shit. Government is the one who's giving out these golden tickets to only certain illegals. I also knew about the subsidy workers being legals too. I just thought I'd fuck with NoDrama a bit, because it's always good to keep people on their toes. The things you become so outraged about, are the very same thing even Democrats like Obama use to fuck with you! Because the Republican would be worse! How about neither side takes a dump on us?

Our government is the cause of the drug "war" in Mexico too. Your whole "illegal to sell" makes no damn sense. Making something so innocent as marijuana illegal and sending them to jail so Bubba gets a girlfriend, is absurd. Marijuana should be treated like how the government treats a farmer's market strawberry. Why do you hate Mexicans so much? Why do you want to deprive them from being able to import marijuana with the same regulations they can sell us their avocados? Why do you support the Mexican drug cartels?
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Your whole "illegal to sell" makes no damn sense.
Grow your own tobacco and then try to sell it.


What you cant?

Why not?

OH becuase Big tobacco lobbied for laws to seal up the market?


How about distill your own alchohol?

Then try to sell it?

What you dont have the money for the fees?


Legal to sell means Big marijuana can lobby to have laws passed that say you can only grow if you are a registered legal grower.

That means fees, inspections and minimum security requirements you cant meet.


Which will be the same thing as not being able to grow your own herb.

But you are too short sighted for that

Need an example?

By Yvonne Wingett SanchezThe Republic | azcentral.comSat Jan 5, 2013 8:37 AM Medical-marijuana patients and advocates are decrying state health officials’ interpretation of a rule that bans growth of the plant within 25miles of an operating dispensary.
Authors of the state’s medical-marijuana law intended to limit home growers by forcing people to buy at dispensaries. But amid prolonged legal battles over the law, no dispensaries opened and home-growing flourished.
But the opening of four medical-marijuana dispensaries in Phoenix, Tucson and Cochise County have brought the 25-mile rule to the forefront.
Over time, the vast majority of patients who live within 25miles of dispensaries will not be permitted to legally cultivate pot. The Arizona Department of Health Services, which oversees the program, issues cards that allow patients to use medical marijuana, grow it or both. Those cards must be renewed each year, and those who live within 25miles of an operating dispensary will not be allowed to grow the plant.

Why do you hate marijuana Users?

If dispensaries continue to open at the current pace, legal home cultivation of marijuana will be virtually non-existent, Humble said.
That doesn’t sit well with patients like Richard Kline, a Glendale resident who uses medical marijuana for the chronic pain from neck and back injuries caused by motorcycle wrecks and getting dragged by a truck.
Kline said he and his wife, also a medical-marijuana patient, will struggle to pay for their medicine once they renew their medical-marijuana cards.
The couple live about 5 miles from a dispensary in Glendale, which opened last month.
“This rule and how the state is reading it — as the crow flies — is just outrageous,” Kline said.

 

Canna Sylvan

Well-Known Member
So because there's potential for abuse, you should penalize to prevent the abuse? You sound just like the Nixon, Reagan, Bush Sr, Newt, and Romney, etc with their excuses in the drug war. The Big X shouldn't do it, but you shouldn't either. Sigh.
 

Someacdude

Active Member
The last couple days I've heard a lot from the racist right in response to the Trayvon Martin coverage on this white baby who was shot by two black teens after they tried to rob the mother. Well, apparently you were all full of shit, yet again. Looks like bipolar/schizophrenic mother killed her child and blamed it on the teens.
Hmmm.....


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/25/1226406/-Remember-the-two-black-teens-who-killed-the-baby
You cannot be serious?
This douche even presents this info as IF.
You are a very sick person, better research some of this first , just one more oxogen thief going on the ignore.
 
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