Bat guano. Tea vs. top dressing.

nuggs

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Good info! I haven't had any problems with the silt but I can see where it could become a problem. I use squares cut from plant cover fabric as my tea bags and I don't have any silt what so ever. Try it out:)
yeah
i got some cheap ass bags from the grow store and they cost $20 bucks.
 

nuggs

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this problem could be my fault . I haven't changed my soil in 5 years. I use raised beds and always tear down my boxs in the fall to let the rain wash out the salts and then I add new amendments and beef up my old soil. been told and believed the soil would only get better . I' m doubting it now . whatcha you guys think?
 

Dgringo69

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If you go fully organic there will be no reason to wash out salts..there won't be any to wash out:) just work and amend your soil every spring. Your soil will get better every year as your micro life becomes more and more established and diversified.
 

nuggs

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If you go fully organic there will be no reason to wash out salts..there won't be any to wash out:) just work and amend your soil every spring. Your soil will get better every year as your micro life becomes more and more established and diversified.
I am fully organic this year an thats the mistake I made. not changing out the soil. just hope to make harvest this year now and i'm going to use all new soil and boxs next year. that was my plan anyway . wanted to learn the organics this year so next year I'll be up to speed and problem free.
 
Guano is a nice additive to use in a tea. For example in a vegging tea use high nitrogen guano and in a flowering tea a high phosphorus guano but the bread and butter is a good compost or even better..worm castings! These are your bases for compost teas. There are also products on the market that come complete with all of the beneficial microbes that can be aerated then added strait to hydroponic systems without having to mess with all of the material associated with a compost tea. Compost tea is best used in soil but a compost tea can be used beneficially as a foliar spray no matter your growing method. Happy growing!
The guy at the store who set me up with a lot of knowledge about growing organicly outdoors, cautioned me about using too much guano because it will make the taste like sulfur. If I'm using 0-13-0 don't I want to go kinda light?

Strains:

LSD
Blue Magoo
CinX
Skunkberry
Moby Dick

My soil is filled 15" deep in a 4' dia bed consisting of:

80% Sandy loam
10% Organic worm castings
3% Malibu's biodynamic comp
3% Organic fish comp
3% Vital Earth organic compost

I've amended with some gypsum to correct a calcium deficit (known from a soil analysis).
I've also fertilized twice with a dry dressing made of fish meal, bone, kelp, greensand, azomite, mycorhizzal fungi, etcetera.

Every two weeks I brew in 2 gal of RO :

1c. of each soil amendment listed above (except the loam) I let it float freely
1c. hydroliyzed fish 1-2-0.2
1/2c. kelp
1 c. Humic/fulvic acid (ful-power)
1.5 Tbsp unsulfured molasses

Brew 72 hours (meaning: 1 hour bubble plain RO, then add mix and wait 72 hours).

I then add yucca (Wet Betty), two cap-fulls of Kelp, and then vortex with a stick one way then the other (like 100 revolutions) for an hour. (I do this for 5-10 min whenever I thinks of it just to show the microbes some love).

To Foliar feed :
I dilute 200 mL of tea with 800 mL (my sprayer is 1L).
(no experience with watering this solution in, I assume the microbes are all there already from the MAlibu's biodynamic compost and mycorhizzal's I added -need more data)

On the off week I spray kelp and Humic/fulvic.
I also spray kelp every 3ish days and spray pH'd water (6.3ish) in between that.

Yes it is a lot of work. The pay-off for me has been the relationship that is developing and the subtle things the plant can teach me this way about about its care.

How would you work guano into this routine given the light cycle goes to 14/10 on Aug. 15 in Oregon? i.e. when would you begin and what would you do exactly to avoid overdoing it given the recipe above? If you will, that is.

Feels like I'm giving away all my secrets, but it works and I really want to optimize it.

Should I make this it's own thread?
 

Dgringo69

Well-Known Member
The guy at the store who set me up with a lot of knowledge about growing organicly outdoors, cautioned me about using too much guano because it will make the taste like sulfur. If I'm using 0-13-0 don't I want to go kinda light?

Strains:

LSD
Blue Magoo
CinX
Skunkberry
Moby Dick

My soil is filled 15" deep in a 4' dia bed consisting of:

80% Sandy loam
10% Organic worm castings
3% Malibu's biodynamic comp
3% Organic fish comp
3% Vital Earth organic compost

I've amended with some gypsum to correct a calcium deficit (known from a soil analysis).
I've also fertilized twice with a dry dressing made of fish meal, bone, kelp, greensand, azomite, mycorhizzal fungi, etcetera.

Every two weeks I brew in 2 gal of RO :

1c. of each soil amendment listed above (except the loam) I let it float freely
1c. hydroliyzed fish 1-2-0.2
1/2c. kelp
1 c. Humic/fulvic acid (ful-power)
1.5 Tbsp unsulfured molasses

Brew 72 hours (meaning: 1 hour bubble plain RO, then add mix and wait 72 hours).

I then add yucca (Wet Betty), two cap-fulls of Kelp, and then vortex with a stick one way then the other (like 100 revolutions) for an hour. (I do this for 5-10 min whenever I thinks of it just to show the microbes some love).

To Foliar feed :
I dilute 200 mL of tea with 800 mL (my sprayer is 1L).
(no experience with watering this solution in, I assume the microbes are all there already from the MAlibu's biodynamic compost and mycorhizzal's I added -need more data)

On the off week I spray kelp and Humic/fulvic.
I also spray kelp every 3ish days and spray pH'd water (6.3ish) in between that.

Yes it is a lot of work. The pay-off for me has been the relationship that is developing and the subtle things the plant can teach me this way about about its care.

How would you work guano into this routine given the light cycle goes to 14/10 on Aug. 15 in Oregon? i.e. when would you begin and what would you do exactly to avoid overdoing it given the recipe above? If you will, that is.

Feels like I'm giving away all my secrets, but it works and I really want to optimize it.

Should I make this it's own thread?
I would make a seperate thread. There are some real organic gurus out there that just love deciphering people's recipes and habits. Good luck..I plan on following your new thread.
 
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