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Uncle Ben

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Dude i wasnt having a contest, i already told you how my power went out how my ac was off for a couple days and my leaves got toasted and some plants fell over. I was showing how to prune differently. Anyway yours look happier, mine look bigger.
Was that before or after the flamefest you waged incorrectly alleging I only grow outdoors?

https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/676034-dont-switch-straight-12-12-a-10.html

Don't fuck with me. Many have "died" trying.

Uncle Ben
 

HeartlandHank

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"Liquid Alien Root Blaster" just came out with a new product that has electrolytes its what plants crave ..
They did. It produces tasty buds... On the last day of flower, the plant actually dries itself, rolls itself up and blows smoke in your face.
The secret ingredient? Elephant semen. It's got elephantolytes.
 

HeartlandHank

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Hey Kite, are you running bare bulbs or open hoods? I know that you achieve awesome co2 concentration duration as your room is mega sealed. I moved som stuff around and installed a 3.5 ton mini split in my flower room. Somewhere I am getting negative pressure. The panda film is getting sucked off the walls! All the ducting is taped sealed, expanding foam on manifolds, and soft rubber sealing where the light cords pass trough the wall.

It HAS to be the lights. I'm running 14 block busters cooled by two 8" inlines (7 hoods for each fan, two rows). Thinking about putting some painters tape around the glass and bottom of the hoods but will wait till I switch to HPS in a week (I just flipped). My co2 generator is almost constanty running.

Any hood sealing tricks that anyone has?
Foil tape. I've had the same foil tape on rows of daystars and silverstars for about 5 years. Occasionally it gets a little loose. You hear it as screeeeeech noise. When it happens, just run your finger along it and it seals it up for months.

If you turn off your air cool fan during lights off it will come loose more often. If you run 24.7 it almost never breaks the seal.

The heat will fuck with most anything you try to seal it with. Not all weather foil tape.. Like I said, if the seal breaks, all you have to do is put a little pressure on it and it's sealed again.

I've wondered if any new reflectors are out there that actually seal perfectly. Mine are all 10+ years old and the seals without foil tape are joke.
 

Situation420

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Was that before or after the flamefest you waged incorrectly alleging I only grow outdoors?

https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/676034-dont-switch-straight-12-12-a-10.html

Don't fuck with me. Many have "died" trying.

Uncle Ben
Uncle ben, In the last week I have seen you get 3 separate threads closed single handedly by insulting RIO members directly and instigating argument. The thread in the link you posted in the link above got closed because you think you know everything and are so knowledgable when it comes to weed and gardening of all types and have the right to talk to anyone however you want.. Personally, If I knew as little as you do for someone with 25 to 30 years of experience, I would not be galavanting around the internet claiming i was such a know it all. In that amount of time you should be an expert not posting pictures of a few nice plants with great photo quality. I really don't care that you have a few plants bushed out and spread out and are comparing them to mine, I was going for total yield per area not per plant, two different things.

Also I see your skinny punk ass hiding behing that plant in your avatar. I would think twice before acting so tough and insulting more ROI members before someone actually uses your posting data then gets the GPS coordinates where you last posted at and come kick your ass and choke you out for real. It's not that hard to get that info btw. But then again, its the internet, where anyone can be a bully and loudmouth ass, and you take full advantage of that.
 

HeartlandHank

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before someone actually uses your posting data then gets the GPS coordinates where you last posted at and come kick your ass and choke you out for real. It's not that hard to get that info btw.
Seriously dude? Let it go brother. If you disagree then go ahead and play the back and forth troll game. But you're kinda throwing out passive threats here. Not cool.
 

Situation420

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Seriously dude? Let it go brother. If you disagree then go ahead and play the back and forth troll game. But you're kinda throwing out passive threats here. Not cool.
I'm not threatening him and really don't care bout him that much, by the way what is a "passive threat" lol. All I was saying is that every thread he is in he personally singles out individuals and turns everything into my way is better than yours fest and insults a lot of ROI members constantly. I was just saying that one day he's going to insult the wrong person and its going to come back to hurt him. I'm looking out for him dude, if i was that skinny and old i wouldn't be claiming that men have "died" trying to f with me. Its called respect, he gives none, so he gets none, period.
 

HeartlandHank

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I'm not threatening him and really don't care bout him that much, by the way what is a "passive threat" lol. All I was saying is that every thread he is in he personally singles out individuals and turns everything into my way is better than yours fest and insults a lot of ROI members constantly. I was just saying that one day he's going to insult the wrong person and its going to come back to hurt him. I'm looking out for him dude, if i was that skinny and old i wouldn't be claiming that men have "died" trying to f with me. Its called respect, he gives none, so he gets none, period.

I'm just saying... collecting personal info about members on this site with malicious intent is not cool. Not just planning to do it... but also talking about it.

I guess it is a term i made up to describe your post. If it doesn't make sense... sorry? I didn't put much thought into it.

pas·sive

/ˈpasiv/
Adjective
Accepting or allowing what happens or what others do, without active response or resistance.

threat

/THret/
Noun

  1. A statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not...: "the family has received death threats"
 

HeartlandHank

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every thread he is in he personally singles out individuals and turns everything into my way is better than yours fest and insults a lot of ROI members constantly.
Yeah dude... You must be new around here...
Welcome to RIU and meet Uncle Ben. haha.
Dude, there's been one newb after another come on to RIU, stirring up shit with UB and getting all butt hurt.
You're not the first, you won't be the last. I watch his posts along with some others as I catch good bits of gardening info here an there.
In the process... I've seen countless others get butt hurt. Some of them have been hanging around getting butt hurt for a long time.

good luck.
 

Situation420

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Yeah dude... You must be new around here...
Welcome to RIU and meet Uncle Ben. haha.
Dude, there's been one newb after another come on to RIU, stirring up shit with UB and getting all butt hurt.
You're not the first, you won't be the last. I watch his posts along with some others as I catch good bits of gardening info here an there.
In the process... I've seen countless others get butt hurt. Some of them have been hanging around getting butt hurt for a long time.

good luck.
Yea I seem to be gettin UB all Butt hurt lol, I think he wants to fight me lmao. Thanx for the advice, but sunni, april, and potpimp explained things to me how things go around here so no longer does my butt get hurt i just laugh at all the other butts getting hurt on here. My butt gets sore but never hurts like it used to and im learning to take it ever since they gave me some pointers haha. That's y they the most og pimp gangsters on here
 

Mad Hamish

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Was that before or after the flamefest you waged incorrectly alleging I only grow outdoors?

https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/676034-dont-switch-straight-12-12-a-10.html

Don't fuck with me. Many have "died" trying.

Uncle Ben
HAHAHAHAHAHA I'm starting to enjoy your posts. One thing I can say about you, UB, is there is nought a boring thread with you around. You can accuse UB of many things, but being BORING is not one of them. And in my books, that is a creative contribution. Reminds me of Hunter S. Thompson's alter-ego, Uncle Raoul.

Gotta love a jaded hippy lol.
 

Uncle Ben

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Seriously dude? Let it go brother. If you disagree then go ahead and play the back and forth troll game. But you're kinda throwing out passive threats here. Not cool.
Guy plays a lot of double standard, finger pointing games....and has this sideways anger issue going. I give out correct botanical info. It's not my problem that he or anyone else takes issue with it. RIU has it's own set of politics too. Threads get closed because they have long run their course such that the trolling, chest beating, gangbangs get way out of hand.

Pot calls the kettle black said:
Also I see your skinny punk ass hiding behing that plant in your avatar. I would think twice before acting so tough and insulting more ROI members before someone actually uses your posting data then gets the GPS coordinates where you last posted at and come kick your ass and choke you out for real. It's not that hard to get that info btw. But then again, its the internet, where anyone can be a bully and loudmouth ass, and you take full advantage of that.
That Polaroid scanned photo was taken at least 15 years ago while you was still messin' in yo britches. There's no info to be had. :dunce:

No one's gonna choke anyone. You need to chill and stop making such hateful threats, or I'm gonna tattle on your happy leaf pluckin' ass. :bigjoint:

UB
 

Uncle Ben

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Foil tape. I've had the same foil tape on rows of daystars and silverstars for about 5 years.
Good call. If you can't find the heavy, like 2.5" wide foil tape, get down to an A/C contractor or supplier. They'll either give you a piece or sell you a roll. It's used to seal central A/C ductwork seams.

UB
 

skunkd0c

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HAHAHAHAHAHA I'm starting to enjoy your posts. One thing I can say about you, UB, is there is nought a boring thread with you around. You can accuse UB of many things, but being BORING is not one of them. And in my books, that is a creative contribution. Reminds me of Hunter S. Thompson's alter-ego, Uncle Raoul.

Gotta love a jaded hippy lol.
lol he does entertain you're right about that, perhaps UB does have good intentions

only me !
[video=youtube;nkZdTHmX0TQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkZdTHmX0TQ[/video]
 

Sativied

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Liquid Light :lol: Come on, regardless of whether it works or not, that name is too much, they should have called it F. Or G perhaps. Seriously, what's in a name...

Yeah dude... You must be new around here...
Yeah clearly the case... registered a month ago - about when the summer started for schoolkids - and already has twice the post I have. Let me guess, most of it is trolling. It's a shame the other thread got locked. I would love to see some more UB vs legallyflying. Both in my top 10 most knowledgeable active members at RIU. Please don't wear each other out though. Sharing knowledge about our beloved plant is not a game.

As for defoliation question, I think the OP fucked up his plants, but the answer is not always a simple yes or no. Just as with flushing, yellow harvest, and a few other controversial topics. That's also why they tend to get out of hand and locked and yet reappear again and again. I know, people like to choose sides, and it seems almost everything is black-and-white to some, but defoliating IS AMC. That's why certain, let's say less advanced MJ cultivators probably shouldn't even be discussing the issue as it only leads to locks.

In reality it depends, and often on what fits in the rest of the growing methods of the grower. It's not like all the great growers use the same methods throughout the entire cycle. On the contrary, their methods often contradict. Some defoliation can have its merits in certain grows. There are thousands of growers who use scrogging and similar methods to maximize yield and minimize risk on the often little space (grow closets/tents) we have. In my country we got over growing the biggest colas possible, humid climate, big buds tend to rot or get moldy. Instead we aim for many smaller/medium sized buds, dense nuggets (which the customers demand) by going for a lot of bud sites per sqft by scrogging or supercropping for example, in which case 'some' defoliating prevents several oz of popcorn at the bottom and clearly affects yield in a positive way (proper light and photosynthesize from top to bottom... 1gpw doesn't make you a liar unlike here at RIU...). In dense grows, like scrogs, it can also improve airflow by removing some of the older leaves that are getting no or barely any light anyway, or even removing some leaves higher up that would otherwise push against a neighboring bud (causing moist risking rot/mold again).

I think the lollypopping is silly, cutting half off all leaves etc too, but the answer to whether someone should defoliate (a bit) is not always a flat out NO when it comes to AMC. Don't bother me with theories about what the function of leaves are, that just takes the discussion "out" of AMC, while many advanced MJ cultivators know from experience some defoliation can be the right choice in certain circumstances.
 

Alexander Supertramp

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to spray on the plants. My plants last year did much better when I was spraying them with seltzer water every other day.
This year they suck. I blame the lack of C02 :(

however, my two top plant outside is doing much better since I did some training on it. Here's what she looks like now..

https://www.rollitup.org/members/roseypeach-371202.html
Did you know CO2 levels are generally much higher indoor than out? I am not trying to rain on your parade. I just hate seeing people get caught up in gimmicks. 'Power of Suggestion' can be a very compelling thing.

http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/345791/description/Elevated_carbon_dioxide_may_impair_reasoning
 

Mad Hamish

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lol he does entertain you're right about that, perhaps UB does have good intentions
Who knows, but as long as guys keep falling for it it's damn funny lol... Handbags At Dawn!! You have to admit a truly creative curse is an artform. Twisted one sure, but I can appreciate it in a comical sense. I mean, here I am, stoned as a date, it'll take red ants down my pants to get a rise out of me, and all these guys getting their panties in a twist over nothing. Makes me feel more stoned lol lol lol....
 

Mad Hamish

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Guys like UB must live life at a rate of several WTF's a minute cuz that's what happens to me when I read these threads. Amusing stuff really it is.
 
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