++Hellraizers++ DO AND DONTs and in and outs of the ebb&grow/ebb&flow systems

GreenDyl

Active Member
Hmm I'm trying to run bennies at the moment and its a lot of extra work. Thinking about running the Hth or bleach or whatever but I realized that with the nutrients I am using, I have a lot of Ammonia or whatever, wondering if that will fuck up my nutes with the bleach.
 

joe macclennan

Well-Known Member
not familiar with heavy 16. As far as the water in the buckets goes no you will be fine. My buckets always have a half inch or so in em too.
 

GreenDyl

Active Member
Hmm we'll that makes me feel better. What exactly do you use? The cal hypo 48%? And what exactly should I be looking for that will react with this?
 

joe macclennan

Well-Known Member
the amoniacal nitrogen and urea will. But the total for the two is less than 1 percent so I think you will be alright. The more dead or decaying material in your rez will funk it up too(roots,leaves etc.)


mix 2grams 48%cal hypo/gallon(pool shock) use this mixture to dose your rez@ 1ml/gallon if that doesn't work keep upping it till it does. I wouldn't go over 10ml/gallon tho. 1-3ml/gallon is all I have to use anymore. depending on how bad your problem is you may have to redose after a few days. Make sure to change your rez at one week.

using this stuff is the easiest thing since presliced bread. any more questions come over herehttps://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/655319-using-bleach-4.html#post9332113

No need to jack hellraizers thread too much.
 
Hi everyone,

So the first week using the Tea in E&F is interesting. The slime seems to come back in the res almost overnight but the roots are the healthiest I've ever seen. I also think the growth overall has improved but time will tell.

Wondering if a clear res shouldn't be the goal after all...will keep everyone posted!

-P215
 

GreenDyl

Active Member
I feel you, I am a huge fan of hellraiZer as he is one of the most knowledgeable people on this site. Much love, gotta try both sides of the fence!
 

oddlifter

Member
Hellraizer,

Do you think I could flower the ebb and grow 12 site in a 4x4 tent? If not how many do you think I could flower in a 4x4?
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Hellraizer,

Do you think I could flower the ebb and grow 12 site in a 4x4 tent? If not how many do you think I could flower in a 4x4?

You could put as many buckets that would fit in a 4x4 foot print but you will have to veg alot less!
it would be more of a sog setup. If you went sog i would only veg till i saw new growth after transplant
then flip to 12/12

4x4 with 2weeks veg would be 6 plants max better with 4 plants
 

oddlifter

Member
You could put as many buckets that would fit in a 4x4 foot print but you will have to veg alot less!
it would be more of a sog setup. If you went sog i would only veg till i saw new growth after transplant
then flip to 12/12

4x4 with 2weeks veg would be 6 plants max better with 4 plants
Thanks!

Do you think 6 plants vegged for 2 weeks in a 4x4 tent would be enough space to SCRoG or would the buds be too crowded?
 

akpaco

Active Member
HR,

Things are starting to look better! Getting ready to flip and took clones. On the plants the the fan leaves are directly above each growing bud. They all seem to be growing in vertical on each plant. Should I remove all the fan leaves that are directly covering the buds? Of course I'm hesitant to remove because I don't want to harm the plants.

Thanks!
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
HR,

Things are starting to look better! Getting ready to flip and took clones. On the plants the the fan leaves are directly above each growing bud. They all seem to be growing in vertical on each plant. Should I remove all the fan leaves that are directly covering the buds? Of course I'm hesitant to remove because I don't want to harm the plants.

Thanks!
Nothing rong with thining a few leaves, i start at the bottom 1/4 and bare it of little junk and leaves when i flip
then week 2 i take a few of the large leaves that block light from getting to the center of the plant out! Then at
week 4 i thin a few more. Seems to not increase yield but make for more bag apeal in the lower stuff that normally
is smack.
 
Nothing rong with thining a few leaves, i start at the bottom 1/4 and bare it of little junk and leaves when i flip
then week 2 i take a few of the large leaves that block light from getting to the center of the plant out! Then at
week 4 i thin a few more. Seems to not increase yield but make for more bag apeal in the lower stuff that normally
is smack.
That's what I had to do this weekend. I planted 12 plants (9 of which were regular seeds) in my 2' x 3' flood table, fully expecting to pull out 3-4 males... except I didn't get any. They are all looking great, but they are only starting the 3rd week of flower. I pruned a lot of the lower growth that is obviously never going to see light and pretty much cleaned off the lower 1/4th of the plants.
 
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