Greatest Rapper Of All Time!!!
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hyphyjoose
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sorry but i think tupac is so typical and cliche for an answer..dude helped elevate rap flow wise, he is definitely a pioneer, but not the greatest(don't get me wrong though, he's one of my favorites)..i'm gonna go with some cats like immortal technique, the novelist, messy marv (no one is as gutter as this kid), eminem's first album, infinite, is definitely something to be praised...big pun was aite..his flow was off the chain, his lyrics not so much so though...i still keep coming back to immortal tech though..dude can just illustrate a story like it's nothin..his propaganda is bullshit though but i don't let it detract from his ability..he's got a ton of it..oh yeah bekay is fuckin sick too and so is krumbz for the dudes here who like that battle rap shit..check em out
hyphyjoose
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okay give me his best line..all he could do was flow like a fuckin maniac..his lyrics were hardly on point..his best song is you aint a killa which is one of my fav of all time..the dream shatterer is pretty good too but honestly he doesn't belong in the top..you've applied to him the same that was applied to pac and biggie..infamy in death...not to say they aren't primo artists, but again, not the best bro
edit: beware is also sick as fuck
edit: beware is also sick as fuck
dirtyshawa
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i see that a lot of people in this thread are speaking from ignorance and really should not post in this thread and should keep their fucking mouth shut. anyways as far as the topic. Pac hands down, now don't get me wrong i love hip hop in general but, all i listen to is g rap. biggie was definitely one of my favs and nas as well but, when pac was alive he would eat them niggas so bad that they wouldn't even acknowledge the beef. they may have retaliated subliminally but, as far as calling him out directly, well, at the time they seemed scared of little ole pac. in my opinion and as a G, if you're not as gangster as your raps, that takes away from your flow, in my opinion. case in point ja rule(nuff said), nas(jay fuckin your wife, you know it and then you sign with the nigga), biggie(pac you st to let you sleep on the couch). now with that said, biggie had a better flow, but, pac was more diverse and much deeper in his rhymes. i say pac because, of his body of work and the fact that he made living Thug Life what it is today. Being a thug(hustling,robbing,killing,) was frowned upon in the 80's, now it's what's up. eventhough, i say pac is the greatest rapper of all time, right now, i reserve the right to change my opinion to Jay-Z at any point in the future. Why, you say...........for all the reasons i stated for pac. Jay-Z has transcended not only the rap game with some of the best verses the game has Ever heard, but, as a hustler he makes you step your game up to the max. i'm from va and i can honestly tell you that Jay-Z was rich before he took over the rap game. an og from my hood was getting money with him in the early 90's and Jay-Z's name was ringing in the streets then. that alone carries a lot of weight, coupled with the fact the nigga don't write music, let me say it again the nigga don't write music. now we're all on here and i'm quite sure that the majority of us blow some fire herb, lets take into consideration that that majority is absent minded as fuck when we get high and forget everything. i love you pac r.i.p., but i'm changing my vote to jay-z. look at his hustle, rhymes, bitches he's been linked to and the fact that his body of work is unmatched,it's hard to argue against jay. if you put his stats up against all rappers they pale in comparison, i hate to admit it even pac. just a real niggas unbiased opinion though. 
p.s. STOP SNITCHINIG!!!
p.s. STOP SNITCHINIG!!!
Crumbles
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so youre saying i like big pun cause hes dead?
youre a fuckin reatard. this shit is about opinion mine is Big Pun shit more talent than any other MC. Alive or dead. His music is still raw as fuck
I don't give a fuck Til I die I'ma live it up
Hit em up, nigga what what, nigga what?
Better watch yo ass 'fore I pull the choppers out the stash
and helicopter yo ass, about a block and a half
Cause I'ma ride for my niggaz, die for my niggaz
Puff lye with my niggaz til I'm high with my niggaz
that alone.. even though they rap
"Cause I'ma ride for my niggaz, die for my niggaz
Puff lye with my niggaz til I'm high with my niggaz"
over and over in the song it only takes him 2 bars.
hyphyjoose
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who tha fuck said anything about t-pain? big pun was def a great..his belly speaks for his authenticity as far as swag goes..but for real..jump off his nuts..there are a ton of better cats out there..
hyphyjoose
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okay tell me how that shit makes him the illest to spit? it just means he can talk big on a track.. you want gangster? listen to messy marv..nigga kills it.. songs like "oh!" and "momma".. momma is a fuckin slap for sure, and if you like pun's swag you'll like that song as far as the gangster tip goes..but in the terminology of hip-hop, technique pretty much is holdin the crown right now..not too many cats can be runner up to that kid..he's just fuckin sick with it..canibus would be too if he didn't vehemently spew bullshit all the time..much like poet laureatte ii, although it's got one of my fav. lines from it..
" A wise man sees failure as progress
a fool divorces his knowledge and misses the logic
And loses his soul in the process
obsessed with nonsense with a caricature that has no content
My style is masterful, multi-lateral
I could battle a fool and be naturally cruel
Words of scourn are a disasterous tool
from an existentialist view, I'm a better rapper then you
Grab the mic and rip your physical fabric in 2
my attitude is fucked up but admirable
Different methods interpreted into different forms
from entirely different perceptions and seen from different norms
Not just spittin a poem there's much more involved
there's much more pieces of the puzzle for you to solve"
that's canibus..and that still ain't shit comparable to what dude is capable of..now you tell me that isn't steez
and as far as technique on "speak your mind"
" Every time I speak my mind I'm lyrically critical
The pinnacle of being revolutionarily pivotal
Beyond anything ever studied thats metaphysical
Man fuck a minority, I'm not politically minimal
But obviously terminologies that are statistical
Are manufactured to be unequivocally subliminal
Transmitted by monopolized media visuals
So I riddle hypocritically pitiful criminals
Habitually utilizing typical rituals
With false pretense in attempts to be spiritual
TO individuals who believe in biblical miracles
Instead of themselves, because they're not thinking original
And the color of their skin makes them feel invisible
Like microscopic miscarriages lynched wit the umbilical
Only a fuckin imbecile would think their uncorrectable
Cause your susceptible to becoming more than a spectacle
Remember that your flesh your blood and your body are dissectible
I'll beat you until your vegetable
And wake up in a hospital covered in poisonous chemicals
In a fetal position wit your face sewn to your testicles
Thinkin that you were kidnapped by extraterrestrials
You got heart? I'm the blood that pumps in your ventricles
Technique, I'm like ya soul nigga.. indispensable
Wit no respect for those that cower at the hour of revolution
Cause the government owes my people restitution
Instead of sedatives like cocaine and prostitution
Conclusion is that you'll have to violently silence me
Cause I raid the airwaves of cutthroat piracy
In school my teachers blinded me
But now I can see
I'm mentally and revolutionarily free
Broadening Horizons about what my people could be
If we wasn't set up to get shot locked or OD
You see families bleed because of corporate greed
And monopolizing weed is virtually impossible
So it wont be legalized and thats another obstacle
But I'm still rollin up pocket fulls of tropical
The governments involved directly so its unstoppable
Like a nuclear rocket full of biochemical toxins that invade the ecological
Improbable that the average intellect could understand
So I encrypted this into hip hop thats in high demand
and spread it through the ghetto of every city like contraband
Stomp a man of any complexion with a devilish nature
Cause I'm tryin to save the earth, but your just next in line to rape her"
i'm sorry but on a mc, underground hip hop tip..that just smashes on almost everything..real fuckin talk..
hyphyjoose
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no beef cousin don't get heated.. it's just when i come into a thread like this people always say big l, biggie, tupac, pun..when there's plenty of other talent out there cats don't recognize.. also if you like that fast shit give do or die a try.. try do or die - fantasy
hyphyjoose
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well i still think u'll like it.. everyone i've showed that song too has liked it..also try messy marv - momma..that song is grimey...and sly boogy - it'z nuthin..that's a sick club-esque west coast song if you like the west coast style... i'm flippin thru my zune and i got nothin else to do so check out tha songs lemme know what you think
If "raw" means repeating the same words over and over, then he is the rawest.If i made a song tht only said "nigga kill, nigga kill", would I then be the rawest?
Stop watching MTV and get a clue about rap.Just because fat joe says pun was the best, doesnt make it real.
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if you like that fast shit twista kills it
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or should i say tung twista