kinetic
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why are you on a cannabis forum again?
70% of Americans on at least 1 prescription
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Orithil
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I'm bi-polar, intermittent explosive, schiztoaffective, I have several anxiety disorders, borderline and anti-social personality disorders, and so on.
The pills they put me on in the past have become toxic in my blood (lithium) and possibly sterilized me for life, made my eyes and skin super sensitive to bright light (neurontin), given me permanent muscle twitches (seroquel), increased my depression to the point of attempting suicide (zoloft, depakote) and just generally ruined my faith in medicine.
I smoke cannabis and I can socialize with people, I don't feel worthless, like I don't belong or deserve to belong, I don't think people are only being nice because they want something of me, and I don't get so annoyed with every stupid little thing that I explode and destroy half the shit in my house.
Now please, I understand the different sides and views, but this is what's best for me - not in only my own opinion, but also in the opinion of all the people who have known me on and off of cannabis.
So yeah, maybe it doesn't work for everyone. Please name one drug or treatment that does - I don't believe there are any, but this one works for me.
Keep working within a broken system to try and win some half-victory through legislation to legalize something they have no right to control, tax or regulate. Trade that freedom for false security. I refuse.
Maybe I'm ranting a bit here, but face it, as long as you're working within their controlled and regulated system, you will NEVER come out ahead. EVER. All they'll do is placate you with some half-assed taxed and regulated BS that they convince you is "In the best interest" of everyone, when the only interest it serves is those who set the whole thing up, to justify their own existences. Fuck them, fuck the system, and fuck the traitors who bow down and let them dictate what they as an individual can do to and put in their own goddamned body.
The pills they put me on in the past have become toxic in my blood (lithium) and possibly sterilized me for life, made my eyes and skin super sensitive to bright light (neurontin), given me permanent muscle twitches (seroquel), increased my depression to the point of attempting suicide (zoloft, depakote) and just generally ruined my faith in medicine.
I smoke cannabis and I can socialize with people, I don't feel worthless, like I don't belong or deserve to belong, I don't think people are only being nice because they want something of me, and I don't get so annoyed with every stupid little thing that I explode and destroy half the shit in my house.
Now please, I understand the different sides and views, but this is what's best for me - not in only my own opinion, but also in the opinion of all the people who have known me on and off of cannabis.
So yeah, maybe it doesn't work for everyone. Please name one drug or treatment that does - I don't believe there are any, but this one works for me.
Keep working within a broken system to try and win some half-victory through legislation to legalize something they have no right to control, tax or regulate. Trade that freedom for false security. I refuse.
Maybe I'm ranting a bit here, but face it, as long as you're working within their controlled and regulated system, you will NEVER come out ahead. EVER. All they'll do is placate you with some half-assed taxed and regulated BS that they convince you is "In the best interest" of everyone, when the only interest it serves is those who set the whole thing up, to justify their own existences. Fuck them, fuck the system, and fuck the traitors who bow down and let them dictate what they as an individual can do to and put in their own goddamned body.
dr.gonzo1
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Orithil
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I got it!
Because you don't have to DO drugs to support the use of them by others.
EDIT : Don't believe me? Ask any doctor with that RX pad.
danbridge
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I am so glad that I live in USA and not Brazil.
Orithil
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Oh really? That's cool and all...but um...why? I take it you've been to Brazil so you know first hand a few reasons you could list off quickly, yes? I've never been myself, I could use the enlightenment.
joe macclennan
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One of my wifes' doctors said that the benzos cause her tremors. She was at one point on seroquel as well. That shit is the fucking devil. I was having problems sleeping for a while. She says try one of these they will help you sleep. So I took one. Just one mind you. It certainly helped me sleep. The next day I woke up with the worst depression I have had in my life. I just couldn't shake it. I am not normally a depressed person. I mean I have my days but all in all I am a glass half full type of guy.
It took me almost a whole day to come out of the afteraffects. Fuck seroquel.
Zoloft huh? Yep, she's been on those as well. About the same time I caught her emptying an entire bottle of klonipin into her mouth and had to rush her to the er. So yep, attempt suicide as well. Fuck zoloft.
No need to apologize orithil. Rant all ya want. Sometimes it helps.
UnderTheSun
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perfectly stated !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't take the pills Sunni, grow your own and then smoke it, vape it, eat it, make tinctures with food grade glyscerin(sp), make coconut butter with your buds, make canna butter, make cannabis capsules.......
I could keep going but COME ON NOW, take control and don't let the pills 'get you' .
It's all about the $$.$$ for the big pharma and the doc's who push them like a car that has run out of petrol.
Take control of your life through plants and not pills.
PS, there are many other holistic plants that can and will help you. Go the natural route and your liver as well as your spirit will thank you!
You can do it Sunni!
I found white widow to really curb anxiety, as long as you let it mature and don't cultivate it too early.
cheers all and thanks for your great comment neosapien!
i dont think you completely understand mj in any form has only worsened my anxiety in the last 8 years it does not work for me, i have a real issue this is what i mean by people pushing the "anxiety is nothing bullshit you can cure it with natural causes"
i cannot. im fed up again i really am i need to try something else. sometimes YOU NEED medication and thats it man.
i have tried hundreds of strains, ive tried edibles, ive tried everything it doesnt work for me. it makes it completely worse and in some cases CAUSED an anxiety attack
UnderTheSun
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I have heard your story many times before Sunni !
Grow your own, choose the right strain and let the trichomes go AMBER before cutting them down.
In my opinion, someone with a sensitive system such as yours, should always avoid any cannabis that has been 'pulled' or 'cultivated' early.......and sad but true, almost all cannabis is cultivated too early. This creates an effect that is often times 'edgy' or 'racy' and is the last thing that 'you' may desire.
I say go for a heavy lethargic amber trichome kind of stone, and then tell big pharma to piss off.
Stop justifying those damn pills, THEY ARE NOT NATURAL, and they didn't exist that long ago.......Humans on the other hand, have walked this rock for millions of years and have somehow survived 'without' eating chemical pills.
"take control"
much love for real,
i dont think you get it. IM NOT ON ANY PILLS.I have heard your story many times before Sunni !
Grow your own, choose the right strain and let the trichomes go AMBER before cutting them down.
In my opinion, someone with a sensitive system such as yours, should always avoid any cannabis that has been 'pulled' or 'cultivated' early.......and sad but true, almost all cannabis is cultivated too early. This creates an effect that is often times 'edgy' or 'racy' and is the last thing that 'you' may desire.
I say go for a heavy lethargic amber trichome kind of stone, and then tell big pharma to piss off.
Stop justifying those damn pills, THEY ARE NOT NATURAL, and they didn't exist that long ago.......Humans on the other hand, have walked this rock for millions of years and have somehow survived 'without' eating chemical pills.
"take control"
much love for real,
im trying to GET pills because i cannot live a day to day regular life since i have chemical imbalance in my brain
im done arguing i know what works for me and what i need to do
joe macclennan
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I hear ya girl. I really do understand. Believe me I do. If you can, try to stay away from Seroquel, or welbutrin.
Lexapro worked for my wife for a while but pot seriously interferes with how it works. If you can get valium they seemed to work best for my wifes' anxiety but oddly the doctors are reluctant to prescribe it. It will be less effective as time goes on and your body develops a tolerance for it. Klonipin is what she takes for anxiety attacks. It works well and is almost immediate. It is also less effective as your body develops a tolerance and is the cause of her permanent tremors as it is a strong benzo.
Regardless of what your doc. prescribes you, you are trading one devil for another. Unless you are lucky enough to find that magic bullet. It is possible.
Thinkin good thoughts for you sunni.
they dont prescribe addicting or habit forming drugs for anxiety here (ive said this a few times in this thread). if anything they try not to at all possible cause. so im not worried about becoming addicting to medication.
im not trading no devil for another, i dont see it being bad that i need medication to function on simple daily tasks, what works works, if wouldve been great if i couldve done it and pushed through without meds, but it isnt working, therefore the logical conclusion to get my life bck would be to try medication
joe macclennan
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I never said anything about being addicted. Only that a lot(almost all) of these drugs don't work as well as time goes on.Therefore you have to take increasingly higher doses. This is only because your body develops a tolerance for them. This is a fact. How you can argue someone elses experience is beyond me.
and I said I hope you find something that works well for you. WTF?
UnderTheSun
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GREAT that you are NOT on any pills !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hooray for you for real!
Now, I would say DONT start, but given your comments, I think it's obvious that you have been brain washed and will indeed be eating pills soon.
Like big pharma meds would be your ONLY option to chemical imbalances in your noggen.
WAKE UP SUNNI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
joe macclennan
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waaaaaaaaaallllll fahk don't get her started again
ClaytonBigsby
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Sunni, have you ever been to a naturopathic doctor?