seems like alot of souviener's are getting found by custum's?!

[Pepe le skunk]

No luck here as souvieners were taken and it sat in la for too many days. Anyone know if you didn't guarntee the shipment will they send replacements? They must know what to look for now no thanks to people on your tube. Probably sent out an e-mail to the handlers to look for specific looking packages and to open them. They need to change their method or packages. Also with the promo's the quantity of sent souvieners probably they know the time to look. They might have to rethink that idea. Sucks big hairy monkey balls. Was hoping to give Tom Hills chunk a try.
If yours are out more than 10 days you probably will get the green tape.

 

[racerboy71]

No luck here as souvieners were taken and it sat in la for too many days. Anyone know if you didn't guarntee the shipment will they send replacements? They must know what to look for now no thanks to people on your tube. Probably sent out an e-mail to the handlers to look for specific looking packages and to open them. They need to change their method or packages. Also with the promo's the quantity of sent souvieners probably they know the time to look. They might have to rethink that idea. Sucks big hairy monkey balls. Was hoping to give Tom Hills chunk a try.
If yours are out more than 10 days you probably will get the green tape.

no, no guarantee, no reship, that's what it's for.. i always pay the extra as it's cheap insurance in case things go down hill like they have been doing so lately.. if you don't pay, you're pretty much sol if they get snagged..

 

[colocowboy]

One thing that was incorrect in your statement jogro is that it takes an act of congress to repeal the prohibition not a presidential move at all. All he can do is appoint a new Director of the DEA with a different objective and re-prioritize federal prosecution through the DOJ. That is a lot but to actually legalize it needs an act of congress.

 

[MarWan]

I think the give away is a cheap mug or wallet thats insured for say a $100 or more (customs declaration)

 

[growone]

One thing that was incorrect in your statement jogro is that it takes an act of congress to repeal the prohibition not a presidential move at all. All he can do is appoint a new Director of the DEA with a different objective and re-prioritize federal prosecution through the DOJ. That is a lot but to actually legalize it needs an act of congress.

DEA does have the ability to schedule/reschedule drugs
so in principle POTUS could direct this to happen for MJ, i.e. appoint a DEA chief that is on board with that
the chances of that happening are not high, but there has been talk of MJ going to schedule 2

 

[racerboy71]

hey bad mofo, just wanted to let you know that i deleted your post m8 as it contained a pix of the packaging of your order and we try not to post such pix on the site m8..
hope you understand, and sorry to hear about your order getting snagged...

 

[Vincent VonBlown]

Who's fault? Mmmmm, let's see, these seed banks are advertising all over the internet, with big banner ads with pictures of seeds. That link to a website that is full of seeds for sale to anyone that wants them... You've got everybody from Subcool to George Cervantes On youtube constantly talking about product etc... Since all the seed banks provide you with a mailing address, it's pretty easy for the feds to locate these people... I think it's mostly greed that causes these problems...

 

[diet coke]

Order in December during the Xmas rush. I still have not had an issue getting mine from single seed(UK)

 

[Jogro]

One thing that was incorrect in your statement jogro is that it takes an act of congress to repeal the prohibition not a presidential move at all. All he can do is appoint a new Director of the DEA with a different objective and re-prioritize federal prosecution through the DOJ. That is a lot but to actually legalize it needs an act of congress.

Where did I say the President could legalize cannabis?

Yes, the Congress passed the controlled substances act into law, and only the Congress can reverse that law (though the POTUS could veto an attempt at reversal)!

However, the DEA is part of the Justice Dept, which runs under executive order. So exactly as I stated above, the POTUS could issue an directive order to re-schedule cannabis into DEA schedule 2 all by himself, without Congressional approval, at any time if he so chose. That's never going to happen under Obama, but its not inconceivable that the next POTUS after him could order something like that, or maybe one down the road. NORML and others have been arguing for 40 years, roughly, that cannabis doesn't meet the criteria for DEA Schedule I, and even though its been rejected, I think on the merits, they have a pretty strong case. EG, if cannabis has no known medical value, why have 18 States provided pathways for medical use?

No, rescheduling isn't the same as permitting cultivation, importation, etc, but but since the DEA is the primary law enforcement agency dealing with Federal cannabis violations, re-scheduling would potentially significantly change the rules of enforcement with regards to MMJ. It would have significant repercussions with respect to physicians being able to prescribe marijuana, permitting research use, etc.

Yes, the POTUS can also direct the DEA not to prioritize enforcement of domestic cannabis law in whole or in part. This may or may not actually require replacing the DEA head, but its a more temporary type of change, since its at the whim of whatever administration priorities are at that moment. This is also effectively what Obama did until the middle of his first term, when he reversed course and reinstituted raids on West Coast MMJ facilities.

Lastly, as a matter of practice, if you're a small personal grower your biggest real legal risk is State level prosecution, not Federal. The Feds typically won't get involved with small possession or cultivation cases; its just not worth their time. So even if the Feds did legalize completely tomorrow, growing cannabis would still be illegal in most of the country by State law, and real legal risk wouldn't change for most growers.

Bottom line is, the most significant reform of cannabis law MUST come at a State level first. Again, until States vote to change cannabis law within their own borders, they can't be expected to embrace it on a national level. Until a majority (or at least substantial plurality) of States legalize, there isn't going to be Federal law change on this.

 

[Jogro]

So California, one of the highest Cannabis consuming states in America(probably) had a public vote on Cannabis and they said no?!

Yup. Recreational MJ failed public vote in CA just 3 election cycles ago.
See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_19_(2010)

It makes no sense, absolutely none.
I genuinely struggle to fathom things like this. Cali is known for its Cannabis growing, so many TV series/movies that have Cannabis in them are almost always going to mention in some form or another about Cali. Yet they as a state vote no?

Well, not to put too fine a point on this, but the electorate in CA is schitzophrenic, and its public policy is "erratic". One year they elect a far left liberal to be Governor, the next year a far right Conservative, and they bounce back and forth. The State isn't exactly known for good or consistent governance.

This is a country which wants to have guns made available to the public(backed by a large majority of the public), yet they won't allow the public to smoke a herb grown in soil, in the same way that they use alcohol, as a recreational drug?! The hell is that?!

I don't want to turn this into a civics lesson, but the right to keep and bear arms was codified into the Federal constitution because the framers understood from first hand experience that there can't be true political or personal freedom without an armed electorate to keep gov't excess in check. So that particular freedom has a specific historical context.

The constitution doesn't say anything about alcohol or drugs.

To the extent that the framers cared about such things, I think they'd have said that any regulation of such should occur at a local level. They established a Federal system of gov't so that regional preferences can be accomodated. That way the will of Alabama doesn't hold sway in California, and vice versa. They'd probably also have said that if someone wants to smoke hashish, or opium, or tobacco, or drink whisky, that's up to them, and the gov't should stay out of it.

 

[Jogro]

i disagree about one line of thought here jogro.. back in the 60's with the flower children, you'd think a very larger percent of the population of the time had tried cannabis, among many other drugs, and have seen that cannabis is simply harmless, yet when these people grew up and got into power, they still didn't manage to legalize cannabis on any kind of scale what so ever..

Who says the "flower children" ever constituted a majority, let alone consolidated a majority of political power?

The hippies stick in the public consciousness as the symbol of an era, but I don't think they ever coalesced into a meaningful political bloc, let alone a majority-voting one with cannabis legal reform on its agenda. Remember Nixon's "silent majority"?

On the actual vote in CA, you can read the "postmortem" of why Prop 19 failed below, but it really wasn't even close. The would be legalizers lost by nearly 8 points, if I remember right.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/11/prop-19-burnout-why-did-pot-legalization-fail-in-california.php

http://theweek.com/article/index/208909/why-did-prop-19-fail-6-theories

If it gives you any hope, I think legalization failed in Colorado a few years back, before with renewed effort reformers got it passed this last cycle. Even though Prop 19 failed 2.5 years ago, I doubt it will be the last time legalization goes to a vote in CA.

 

[bluntmassa1]

i agree, go over to youtube and look at all of the a holes posting pix of their packaging.. wtf good comes from this, other than more people not getting their gear...

i'm glad i'm stocked up and can wait this out for a bit.. :

The funniest thing is one dude got busted that way he had a video on youtube with a seed order and you could see his first name, town and state on the package guy was filming the stealth method. he also had a video of his back yard with his dog and thats how the cops got him also some jack ass reported the video. guy is retarded though I won't even post pics that way for all the police know I could have never grown a plant in my life and its also not documented so they couldn't hold it against me saying I've been at it for years.

but it won't kill me if they stop seeds from coming in as I got well over 100 stocked up and I can always chuck some pollen around even got the mango haze dude gave me 24 seeds make a few f2's I'll have some killer buds to select from along with a bunch of high quality non feminized beans I could breed with. Would suck for beginners though as they'd be stuck with bag seed from a hermied plant and be forced to cherish it unless they got lucky and met someone like me but thats a long shot.

Its just a matter of time till they fry all seeds coming in that aren't marked so and only way into the country would be by way of legal seed deliveries you never know but until then you can call me a weed seed doomsday prepper. lol

 

[bluntmassa1]

Who's fault? Mmmmm, let's see, these seed banks are advertising all over the internet, with big banner ads with pictures of seeds. That link to a website that is full of seeds for sale to anyone that wants them... You've got everybody from Subcool to George Cervantes On youtube constantly talking about product etc... Since all the seed banks provide you with a mailing address, it's pretty easy for the feds to locate these people... I think it's mostly greed that causes these problems...

I don't think they use the same return address as their company but if they catch one they could look for all packages with the same return address. also I hate ordering from the UK its got to be the hottest country for seed sales coming to the US also you can get steroids from the UK as its legal their.

 

[Grojak]

agreed ^ everything cant be searched... though technology moves in a direction that will make screening easier.

the dutch got it down pat with their busy ports. they've been pioneering high tech searches for contraband. & the world follows suit.

still, its gotta be difficult finding beans.
yet, these seed companies only label, note, and relay what they do on their sites.
everything needs to be changed. the forum rules should be modified to reflect love of the bean !

stop your talking & posting about how it gets to you.
stop whining when shit dont show in three days.
stop those photos & package descriptions.

i think i speak for bunches of us , nobody gives a fuck about which tee or coffee cup you got from the 'tude.

& to whoever put up pics & discussed sannie's mega OG jewelry method... i hope you get stem rot & damping off forever !!!!
was some undetectable method. no way customs gets a clue without a big mouth or two. so unbelievable he had to change that.

& & shit, i got beans in the mail too

new e$ko testers via unreleased gear from mr. soma himself , cant wait !!!!
gonna be e$ko's first kush.

30 show , 30 for grow !

I fully agree that methods don't need to be show on youtube and shit, but seriously what's stopping LEO from just logging on to Attitude and seeing their shipping options, Coffee Mug, Tshirt, Tin, breeder packs / no breeder packs. I mean you all can't be so naive to think LEO's never made a seed order!!

 

[Lo Budget]

I think a lot of Americans would like to see cannabis laws reformed, but most don't have a stake in it so they won't go out of their way to change anything. "Aunt Sally" may be open to legalization/decrim, but she's never smoked, and she's not going to go out of her way to sign petitions, write to her representatives, etc. I personally believe cannabis holds may important medical secrets, and someday we may be able to take an objective look without all the politics and hysteria. Sadly, I don't expect to see this happen in my state, in my lifetime. I'll be sixty years old this year and I've been smoking for over forty-five of those years. I really expected all this would long be water under the bridge by now and we'd have legal access. I mean for fuck's sake it's 2013 not 1939!
I just can't understand it. Small minded, selfish, stupid people want to rule the world. And apparently, they do.

Plus I'm ready to move on from bagseed and now I'm paranoid about ordering.

 

[Jogro]

Look, if border patrol and customs can't stop kilos of heroin and coke from coming in, they're not going to be able to put a stop to mere cannabis ceeds.

At worst, it will become HARDER to smuggle them in, and costs will go up accordingly.

On the other hand, with the rise of legal recreational cannabis, and increasing medical cannabis, finding ceeds INSIDE the USA is going to become easier with time.

 

[Jogro]

I fully agree that methods don't need to be show on youtube and shit, but seriously what's stopping LEO from just logging on to Attitude and seeing their shipping options, Coffee Mug, Tshirt, Tin, breeder packs / no breeder packs. I mean you all can't be so naive to think LEO's never made a seed order!!

Anyone who doesn't think that customs ALREADY knows how the various seedbanks smuggle in ceeds is naive. These guys do it for a living day in, day out, and the different offices don't act in isolation; they know. Doesn't mean that every single inspector knows every single method by every bank by heart, but these guys catch enough hidden beans that they know how its done.

The reason they cant'/don't catch everything isn't clever stealth shipping, its sheer volume. So many packages come in, that they simply can't do more than a cursory inspection of most of them, saving the detailed inspections for the more suspicious packages. Ceeds simply aren't their highest priority; they're concentrating on actual drugs, weapons, and live organisms.

 

[GandalfdaGreen]

I think a lot of Americans would like to see cannabis laws reformed, but most don't have a stake in it so they won't go out of their way to change anything. "Aunt Sally" may be open to legalization/decrim, but she's never smoked, and she's not going to go out of her way to sign petitions, write to her representatives, etc. I personally believe cannabis holds may important medical secrets, and someday we may be able to take an objective look without all the politics and hysteria. Sadly, I don't expect to see this happen in my state, in my lifetime. I'll be sixty years old this year and I've been smoking for over forty-five of those years. I really expected all this would long be water under the bridge by now and we'd have legal access. I mean for fuck's sake it's 2013 not 1939!
I just can't understand it. Small minded, selfish, stupid people want to rule the world. And apparently, they do.

Plus I'm ready to move on from bagseed and now I'm paranoid about ordering.

Order from Herbies, SoS, or Highlifeseeds.com. Get the stealth/super stealth options. You'll be fine. Do it soon though.

 

[no clue]

The man can suck it. Power to the people.

 

[TheOrganic]

I've seen these threads come and go for few years now. Never had one seized. Its all luck. And when anybody puts up info on any banks stealth method they mite as well be a snitch in my book. Already there has been to much talk on this thread even though its already been ruined for stealth.......Def hate when people bring up san way of anything.........SHHHHH. But why keep bringing any of this up? If they come great if they don't well then buddy that's the game we all play. Just go to CO. or any half ass legal(MED) and hang out for a weekend and you will find something if you can't then you need social skillz cause shit is all over. This isn't directed towards anybody I'm just saying shut the fuck up.