Pope Francis Admits That A 'Gay Lobby' Influences The Vatican

[NietzscheKeen]

Based on what you've said in other threads I'm floored. I didn't know white supremacists were pro-gay rights.

I know this post wasn't targeted at me, but I wanted to respond. Maybe the names people get called by Uncle Buck really don't fit. Maybe those he calls Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists aren't really Neo-Nazis or White Supremacists. I'm neither, but he has called me both numerous times. It's called making unfair generalizations when you see that someone has ONE view that White Supremacists also agree with and you label that person a White Supremacist. Christians believe in Satan; so do Satanists therefore Christians are Satanists.... see how that logic doesn't work?
I can converse with people that I don't necessarily agree with. We are talking, but we don't necessarily agree on everything as evidenced by our discussions in the Spirituality, Philosophy, and Sexuality section.

 

[UncleBuck]

Considering the vigor with which you prosecute those with whom you disagree, this is remarkably weak. You might wish to apply comparable vitriol to your own whoopsies. My opinion.

i misread, i am a dumbass, i am sorry, and i apologize.

any closer?

 

[UncleBuck]

I know this post wasn't targeted at me, but I wanted to respond. Maybe the names people get called by Uncle Buck really don't fit. Maybe those he calls Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists aren't really Neo-Nazis or White Supremacists. I'm neither, but he has called me both numerous times. It's called making unfair generalizations when you see that someone has ONE view that White Supremacists also agree with and you label that person a White Supremacist. Christians believe in Satan; so do Satanists therefore Christians are Satanists.... see how that logic doesn't work?
I can converse with people that I don't necessarily agree with. We are talking, but we don't necessarily agree on everything as evidenced by our discussions in the Spirituality, Philosophy, and Sexuality section.

OMFG are you still trying to convince people that you wish to escape an entire race because you feel they are your equals?

 

[cannabineer]

i misread, i am a dumbass, i am sorry, and i apologize.

any closer?

That last question sort of throws it ... makes it look like "you happy now??" Jmo. cn

 

[UncleBuck]

That last question sort of throws it ... makes it look like "you happy now??" Jmo. cn

i can never make you happy, dad!

 

[cannabineer]

i can never make you happy, dad!

Not since the Camaro Incident, young man. I mean just look at that quarter panel!! cn

 

[UncleBuck]

Not since the Camaro Incident, young man. I mean just look at that quarter panel!! cn

are you suggesting that i look at it, just look at it?

 

[cannabineer]

are you suggesting that i look at it, just look at it?

I'm stuck with doing that. You get to woo the honeys in the beige Oldsmobile Diesel. cn

 

[SHOTGUN420]

So at what point do they get to be themselves and not under mandate to hide it from the "decent folk"? cn

I don't care if someone is gay bi lez ect. but I don't see it as news worthy everyday I see this high school kid comes out this this sport player is that. I honestly don't care and I think its a cry for attention.

Now to answer your question someone can be gay all they want I draw the line at teaching sex to young children they will know by high school so why not let kids be kids? If 50 gay males wanted to have a gang bang on a nude beach you won't see me trying to stop them because I just don't care. I care when I see videos or photos of grown naked men marching past children. If a gay couple wants to own a house and live in peace more power to them.

I don't believe gays should be able to adopt children ask me for sources or whatever you will get none I just think its unnatural my personal belief.
I don't care about gay rights. If gays want to marry or have civil unions or whatever I don't care I'm not religious this isn't the stone age let the people vote on it. Now you may ask why I posted this thread then I seen this is spirituality & sexuality section so I figured it may be a hot topic for some I like to share information.

 

[UncleBuck]

I don't care if someone is gay bi lez ect. but I don't see it as news worthy everyday I see this high school kid comes out this this sport player is that. I honestly don't care and I think its a cry for attention.

Now to answer your question someone can be gay all they want I draw the line at teaching sex to young children they will know by high school so why not let kids be kids? If 50 gay males wanted to have a gang bang on a nude beach you won't see me trying to stop them because I just don't care. I care when I see videos or photos of grown naked men marching past children. If a gay couple wants to own a house and live in peace more power to them.

I don't believe gays should be able to adopt children ask me for sources or whatever you will get none I just think its unnatural my personal belief.
I don't care about gay rights. If gays want to marry or have civil unions or whatever I don't care I'm not religious this isn't the stone age let the people vote on it. Now you may ask why I posted this thread then I seen this is spirituality & sexuality section so I figured it may be a hot topic for some I like to share information.

the bolded is heavily negated by the rest of what you've posted.

 

[cannabineer]

Well, if it is your personal belief, i recommend practicing what you preach and keeping it zipped, so to speak. cn

 

[SHOTGUN420]

the bolded is heavily negated by the rest of what you've posted.

nit picking again? Do I have to care about everyone and everything like you claim to?

 

[mindphuk]

Well, if it is your personal belief, i recommend practicing what you preach and keeping it zipped, so to speak. cn

+1

I don't care if someone is gay bi lez ect. but I don't see it as news worthy everyday I see this high school kid comes out this this sport player is that. I honestly don't care and I think its a cry for attention.

Now to answer your question someone can be gay all they want I draw the line at teaching sex to young children they will know by high school so why not let kids be kids? If 50 gay males wanted to have a gang bang on a nude beach you won't see me trying to stop them because I just don't care. I care when I see videos or photos of grown naked men marching past children. If a gay couple wants to own a house and live in peace more power to them.

I don't believe gays should be able to adopt children ask me for sources or whatever you will get none I just think its unnatural my personal belief.
I don't care about gay rights. If gays want to marry or have civil unions or whatever I don't care I'm not religious this isn't the stone age let the people vote on it. Now you may ask why I posted this thread then I seen this is spirituality & sexuality section so I figured it may be a hot topic for some I like to share information.

For someone that is so indifferent, uninterested, you sure do spend an inordinate amount of posts discussing it.
IMO, not caring about rights of groups I'm not a part of is selfish and uncompassionate. Oppression of people that we don't like is morally wrong. This is one reason I find most religion morally bankrupt. Your words and attitude is not something you should be proud of. There are things that are objectively good for people in general and things that are bad. Persecution gays and attacks or even indifference on gay rights is just as wrong as not caring about the abuses going on in other parts of the world, like children soldiers and genocidal warlords. It's okay to put those things at a reasonable emotional distance but to have no compassion or concern for you fellow human beings makes me think you are a sociopath.

 

[SHOTGUN420]

Sad attempt at putting someone on a guilt trip. forced acceptance is bullshit. If you enjoy the same sex good for you but don't put people down just because they don't care about your rallies. Their are a lot bigger issues out their in world then people butt fucking each other.

 

[SHOTGUN420]

Well, if it is your personal belief, i recommend practicing what you preach and keeping it zipped, so to speak. cn

Way to keep a level head mod. I guess everyone else can say what they want right?

 

[kpmarine]

Sad attempt at putting someone on a guilt trip. forced acceptance is bullshit. If you enjoy the same sex good for you but don't put people down just because they don't care about your rallies. Their are a lot bigger issues out their in world then people butt fucking each other.

There's a difference between indifference and animosity; which you have blurred with most of what you've said. Yeah, there's tons of issues in the world. However, it's not like legalizing gay marriage will prevent those from being solved. Stop acting like you're just too busy with solving the bigger issues in the world to take a moment to consider equal rights for the LGBT movement.

You get put down not because you don't care, it's stuff like this:

I don't believe gays should be able to adopt children ask me for sources or whatever you will get none I just think its unnatural my personal belief.

. You can have all the personal beliefs you want, but expect to have them questioned when they're something like that. When you say you'd rather have kids rotting in the foster care system instead of with loving parents, just based on what they do with their genitals, then that bears justification. Otherwise it's fair to assume you're somewhat prejudiced. If you had some proof that this was somehow detrimental, and not just some personal disapproval; then it might be received as something not so concerning.

 

[kpmarine]

Way to keep a level head mod. I guess everyone else can say what they want right?

Except the gays, according to you. They should just "keep it to themselves", right?

 

[NietzscheKeen]

I'm sure there is some documented proof somewhere stating one way or another, but I've seen the outcome with my own eyes. And kids raised by same sex partners are just as functional as kids raised by a "traditional" couple. I'd be willing to bet that the children raised by same sex partners are more likely to grow up to become Democrats though and that might be something worth preventing

But I think it is better for a child to have two adults that love him or her and are their for him or her rather than one that shows love and one that isn't around. It really doesn't matter to me what sex the parents are because sexuality isn't taught. I was a really big homophobe till I moved to San Francisco. Then I realized, they are just people; not pedophiles, not perverts, not HIV carriers; those exist in ALL sexual preferences.

Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs and opinions and I will totally respect that. I won't even call people out on them most of the time unless I'm just in a mood to debate. I just want to be correct; intellectual honesty is important to me and so is civil discourse. If I'm wrong, I'd want to know. I don't choose what I believe, I believe what appears to be the truth to me at that moment even if it is inconvenient.

What's the saying? Don't knock it till you try it? Butt sex that is, lol.

 

[mindphuk]

Sad attempt at putting someone on a guilt trip. forced acceptance is bullshit. If you enjoy the same sex good for you but don't put people down just because they don't care about your rallies. Their are a lot bigger issues out their in world then people butt fucking each other.

You seem hung up on how people have sex. This isn't about sex or the right to have sex the way they want. This is about persecuting and marginalizing other human beings because they are different. There are many issues in the world. Many of them could be mitigated if people weren't so destructive to other people and form institutions and governments of oppression. In my mind, liberty is one of the most important driving forces behind a high quality of life. Governments should not interfere with people doing what they want if they are not harming others. They are only necessary when there is a conflict of rights. There should be no laws against putting substances derived from a plant into my body and there should be no laws preventing two people from having a normal life, marriage and family even if they are fucking each other's assholes. The sex is inconsequential. The fact that you continue to emphasize it just demonstrates that you are not indifferent but are actively hostile.

 

[SHOTGUN420]

It really doesn't matter to me what sex the parents are because sexuality isn't taught.

Time to debate my friend I'm going to ignore most of the other retards here they are way to pushy with their agenda.

Kids are thought in grade school in some places about sexuality. It's always in the news....

Plus I'm sure little johnny or jane is going to wonder and ask why he or she has 2 daddys or 2 mommies and not a mommy and daddy like other kids.

Can you prove to me its natural.