new maximum amounts with new regulations

buckets

buckets

Well-Known Member
I have a friend who has just applied for their commercial production lisence. They have shared some of the finer details with me and the new regulations stipulate that the maximum amount a patient can get from a commercial grower will be 5 grams. Now doesn't that suck balls. I doubt Trudeau will do anything to change that rule. I prey people challenge this in court.
 
buckets

buckets

Well-Known Member
If anyone wants to submit and impact statement, Conroy & company in Abottsford, BC is taking the challenge to court. If you're a grower with equipment he says he is also going to launch a class action law suit if you want to get in on that action. he has a web site so just look him up and contact him. I will be.
 
maximum

maximum

Active Member
I scanned the final release of the regulations. Here is some info on maximums. Is your friend saying 150grams divide by 30 days = 5grams?

Thirty-day limit 124. (1) A licensed producer must
not sell or provide to a client or an
individual responsible for the client in
any 30-day period a total quantity of
dried marihuana that exceeds 30 times
the daily quantity referred to in
paragraph 129(1)(d).
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Then we go to section 129

document
129. (1) A medical document
provided by a health care practitioner to
a person who is under their professional
treatment must indicate
(a) the practitioner’s given name,
surname, profession, business
address and telephone number,
facsimile number and email address,
if applicable, the province in which
the practitioner is authorized to
practise their profession and the
number assigned by the province to
that authorization;
(b) the person’s given name,
surname and date of birth;
(c) the address of the location at
which the person consulted with the
practitioner;
(d) the daily quantity of dried
marihuana to be used by the person,
expressed in grams; and
(e) the period of use.
Period of use (2) The period of use referred to in
paragraph (1)(e)
(a) must be specified as a number of
days, weeks or months, which must
not exceed one year; and
(b) begins on the day on which the
medical document is signed by the
health care practitioner.
(3) A medical document is valid for
the period of use specified in it.
(4) The medical document must be
signed and dated by the health care
practitioner providing it and must attest
that the information in the document is
correct and complete
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Also found

Refusal 123. (1) A licensed producer must
refuse to fill an order referred to in
section 121 if
(e) the order specifies a quantity of
dried marihuana that exceeds 150 g;
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Found something about how much a hospital can give

226. The Regulations are amended
by adding the following after section
65:
65.1 (1) The person in charge of a
hospital who permits dried marihuana
to be sold or provided iunder
subsection 65(2.1) to an out-patient or
an individual responsible for that
patient shall ensure that
(a) in any 30-day period the total
quantity of dried marihuana that is
sold or provided to that person does
not exceed 30 times the daily
quantity referred to in subparagraph
65.2(c)(iii); and
(b) not more than 150 g of dried
marihuana is sold or provided to that
person at any one time.
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Regarding 30 day limit

Thirty-day limit 130. (1) A health care practitioner
must not transfer to a person under
their professional treatment or an
individual who is responsible for that
person (both of whom are referred to in
this section as “the transferee”) in any
30-day period a total quantity of dried
marihuana that exceeds 30 times the
daily quantity to be used by the person
under their professional treatment, as
specified in the medical document on
the basis of which the transfer is made
Additional limit (2) A health care practitioner must
not, at any one time, transfer to the
transferee a quantity of dried
marihuana that exceeds 150 g.
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Even when they talk about returns its 150grams. Like thats the magic number. Any package above 150grams.

Return (3) If the client or an individual
responsible for the client returns to the
licensed producer dried marihuana that
the producer sold or provided to them,
the producer may replace the returned
marihuana with an equal quantity, to a
maximum of 150 g.
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And again under possesion limit. Looks like 150grams is again the maximum. So I guess this implies anyone caught with more than 150 grams on them or in the mail is breaking the daily limit.

Possession limit 5. An individual who obtains dried
marihuana for their own medical
purposes or for those of another
individual for whom they are
responsible must not possess a quantity
of dried marihuana that exceeds the
least of the following amounts:
(a) in the case of dried marihuana
obtained from a licensed producer,
30 times the daily quantity referred
to in paragraph 129(1)(d);
(b) in the case of dried marihuana
obtained from a hospital by or for an
out-patient, 30 times the daily
quantity referred to in subparagraph
65.2(c)(iii) of the Narcotic Control
Regulations; and
(c) 150 g.
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I dont know, it talks about 150 grams a lot in the final release of the mmpr. To me it sounds like they are saying 150 grams is the maximum purchase at any given time. I dont think its a monthly limit. What do you guys think?
 
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ditrbag1

Member
This bullshit is nothing new, it's THE classic federal government move to frustrate the common person into doing Nothing, and making the process of application pretty much too exclusive/costly for the majority of applicants. I completely agree that a class action is definitely worth the effort. Here's something to think about if you're planning on growing after the cutoff date. If bill C-10 says you get 6 mos. mandatory time for anything between 6 and 201 plants, why not grow 200 plants ??? if you're ok with facing jail time (potentially) why not maximize the plants potential, and modify your setup to run a SOG grow??? food for thought anyways.
 
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Mattemil

Active Member
There are somewhere around 30,000 of us....if everyone would step up and fill out an impact statement and send a few emails we could fight this.The reality is most are simply to lazy or don't care enough to stand up and fight-Its a shame.Good work on stepping up, buckets.
 
maximum

maximum

Active Member
Mattemil said:
There are somewhere around 30,000 of us....if everyone would step up and fill out an impact statement and send a few emails we could fight this.The reality is most are simply to lazy or don't care enough to stand up and fight-Its a shame.Good work on stepping up, buckets.
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You should make a thread about the impact statement with a link. People might be lost man. I couldnt find it neither. I had to email the coalition for info.
 
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freedom4me

New Member
Im just new to the growing, for my daughter! Cant believe the Government of Canada! my daughter has as 6 gram a day license and we grow for her. Shes 21 a single mother with a low income. how is it expected for her to buy her medicine? really how can they implement this, first they say yes you can grow your own medicine, then they say no, now if you do you go to jail! Is there currently a list of the people with licenses, so that everyone becomes one. i only hope that the small local grower realizes that there will only be a certain amount of licenses issued, it wont be to the local small grower. Huge corporations will be getting the permits, all the pharmaceutical companies want the profits.
Nothing against the mom and pop growers but corporations are a safer bet! Jumping through hoops will be what you have to do, however the hoops will never stop.
If anyone knows of anywhere elso on the net that has a specific forum about this this topic, please let me know!!

Thanks
 
buckets

buckets

Well-Known Member
we should have a class action for those with larger perscriptions who are being taken down to 5 gpd. That's an idea eh?
 
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mrfssd

Member
Sorry to dig up an one month old thread, but according to the act I understand it this way

No one could possess, sell or fill any order that are bigger than 150g at any given time.. however nowhere it say one can't get prescription for more than 150g per 30 days.

It say Doctor is to write down how many gram per day the user could have.. so for example doctor could prescript 10 gram a day.

That should mean the user have to order every 15 days. to a max of 150g. However if they do that it will mean there are chance they could be without their meds for a few days.. so I would suggest they order 150g the first time, and 100g after every 8 days given 1 day order filling and 1 day shipping, so when the 100g shipment arrive they should have around 50g left which combined still under the 150g limit.

What you guy think?
 
mojoganjaman

mojoganjaman

Well-Known Member
my license states 1050 gram dried possession....12750 grams dried in storage...yeah...thats over 28lbs...128 indoors(not happenin') 34 outdoors...33 in the yard...;))....expires on May 27/14...
 
buckets

buckets

Well-Known Member
If you're saying you got an outdoor permit, it's the first one that I have ever heard of and that is absolutely fantastic if you did. Please confirm that I didn't misunderstand you!
 
willieboy

willieboy

Well-Known Member
I have a permit from Health Canada that allows me to grow 19 plants indoors during the winter and 5 plants outdoors in the summer. I have had the same permit for the past five years. The MMAR programme has allowed this all along. Previously I grew only indoors. I assume lots of folks are doing the same.
 
Sir.Ganga

Sir.Ganga

New Member
ditrbag1 said:
This bullshit is nothing new, it's THE classic federal government move to frustrate the common person into doing Nothing, and making the process of application pretty much too exclusive/costly for the majority of applicants. I completely agree that a class action is definitely worth the effort. Here's something to think about if you're planning on growing after the cutoff date. If bill C-10 says you get 6 mos. mandatory time for anything between 6 and 201 plants, why not grow 200 plants ??? if you're ok with facing jail time (potentially) why not maximize the plants potential, and modify your setup to run a SOG grow??? food for thought anyways.
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Or grow five fucking MONSTERS and be safe!
 
Sir.Ganga

Sir.Ganga

New Member
This thread has made me think of another issue, sorry for getting off topic but what happens to my storage material? I am allowed almost six pounds in storage, when next April comes around then what? Throw it out? I grew it legally? Where will they draw the line? If I get caught with it in my freezer...then what? I really do not think a court in Canada would convict a Cancer patient over legally grown meds? Whats your thought?
 
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