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I have a Dog that is super fucking bushy, and everytime i stare at it i think it could lose those fan leaves cause there in the way, doing what i have no clue, i feel like it will be same results if i left it ? dont know thats why im asking
 
cause think of it as a pipeline right, nutrients flow up the roots, to the stem and on its way up every node and leave site it sees, the stem feeds, so if you cut off a fan leaf, when nutrients are flowing up the pipeline it sees some doors that are closed ( fan leafs youve cut off) and only feeds bud sites, anything you didnt cut or (close off to nutrients. ) right ? more i stare at my girls its like that how i feel . lol and more light to the budsites of course. :)
 
Nutrients aren't what powers the plant. That's light. And the plant gets light through leaves, you cut them off and you are cutting off the pipeline the plant gets it's energy from.

That's why if you want to grow more bud you get a bigger light... not more nutrients.

:)
 
Im no expert,, but I like tucking leaves when I can to expose more,, but thats with plants bushier and a little bigger that that... Also, any of these techniques (as with almost anything to do with fine tuning your grow) comes to genetics... Some strains/phenos will benefit while others it will hurt,,, looks to me that plant in particular wont like it because its totem pole structure exposing those lil spots wont help. A super bushy plant on the other hand Im tucking and plucking some fans.


edit: and before you go messing with your plants assuming thats how they work I beg you please do a little digging :-) that info aint hard to find.
I just realized I have no real knowledge on how they actually work up top :shock: I been thinking about the roots too much lol Im going to satisfy myself with a little learning later today :-) thanks! (concerning how nutrients flow through stems and throughout the plant)
 
It's a culmination of all of them. Roots light and nutes. One cannot support the plant solely. I have heard of people defoliaging (sp?) their girls. I would have to research more extensively to give it a whirl though. Nutrients become a fun experiment as well. Looking into the major nutrients as most already know into the secondary (or whatever the scientific name them are). Soil is going to be fun when I get a chance to take a crack at amending to try to get the girls the nutrients they need.
 
"I like tucking leaves"

Beat me to it! I should have added this option.

While I am also quite new :^) there is some logic to
leaving the "solar panels" attached to the spacecraft.

Now, what harm could there be in ducking a fan leaf
under a top? Unless fan leaves *take energy from the
plant* that it might use to make buds, then tucking
them under would have to be at worst a net zero.

Good luck,

JD
 
Acually this is the Dog i was thinking of trimming a little, wouldnt you trim those fan leaves ? Haven't showed this Dog yet.....I like her, short and stuby




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No. I would not. I see that plant and I think *health*!!

That plant looks ready to grow, fast and strong.

I would let it do just that. Haircuts can wait. ...I suppose
that trimming as part of training might start, but I have
not played too much with Veg time yet. (will soon ;0)

JD
 
whodatnation said:
Im no expert,, but I like tucking leaves when I can to expose more,, but thats with plants bushier and a little bigger that that... Also, any of these techniques (as with almost anything to do with fine tuning your grow) comes to genetics... Some strains/phenos will benefit while others it will hurt,,, looks to me that plant in particular wont like it because its totem pole structure exposing those lil spots wont help. A super bushy plant on the other hand Im tucking and plucking some fans.


edit: and before you go messing with your plants assuming thats how they work I beg you please do a little digging :-) that info aint hard to find.
I just realized I have no real knowledge on how they actually work up top :shock: I been thinking about the roots too much lol Im going to satisfy myself with a little learning later today :-) thanks! (concerning how nutrients flow through stems and throughout the plant)
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good place to start>>>>> http://www.cabrillo.edu/~ncrane/bio1c/botPDFs/xylemphloemflow.pdf
 
i tuck my leaves. i don't believe they are using more than they are creating if you are feeding right. i'm not sure how much light directly on buds makes a different. Now if you need airflow and thats what you gotta do, do it.
 
I would have to agree with tryna, cutting off perfectly healthy leaves would cause more harm than good. Not only are your big fan leaves your "solar panels" but they are your plants "emergency supply depot" especially for the immobile and minor nutrients. Correct me if I'm wrong...
I have been wondering how far into flower a person can trim lower bud sites though... This SharksBreath keeps going with the popcorns under her skirt......
Currently in week 4

I also want to thank whodat and others who welcomed me here; this is awesome!
 
1, do not remove fan leaves
2, remove lower foliage by all means,
3, especially NO removal of fan leaves in veg stage....plants stretch in flower.

Nature put them there for a reason, now leave be, lol.
 
rock380star said:
I would have to agree with tryna, cutting off perfectly healthy leaves would cause more harm than good. Not only are your big fan leaves your "solar panels" but they are your plants "emergency supply depot" especially for the immobile and minor nutrients. Correct me if I'm wrong...
I have been wondering how far into flower a person can trim lower bud sites though... This SharksBreath keeps going with the popcorns under her skirt......
Currently in week 4

I also want to thank whodat and others who welcomed me here; this is awesome!
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you are correct, they act as a reserve when your not feeding right, Ph is off, or the soil is too dry for uptake of nutrients. also leaves are responsible for collecting cO2, and letting out O2. Now if you have leaves that you feel are to low for the light to even penetrate to get too, then i guess you could cut em, but that is by preference. think of it as an organ on the plant, or like don said , an engine. You don't remove these parts to make things better.
 
jigfresh said:
Nutrients aren't what powers the plant. That's light. And the plant gets light through leaves, you cut them off and you are cutting off the pipeline the plant gets it's energy from.

That's why if you want to grow more bud you get a bigger light... not more nutrients.

:)
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Yes but you do hit a barrier at a certain point on the light, at that point it just becomes over kill and the plant can't use it.

whodatnation said:
Im no expert,, but I like tucking leaves when I can to expose more,, but thats with plants bushier and a little bigger that that... Also, any of these techniques (as with almost anything to do with fine tuning your grow) comes to genetics... Some strains/phenos will benefit while others it will hurt,,, looks to me that plant in particular wont like it because its totem pole structure exposing those lil spots wont help. A super bushy plant on the other hand Im tucking and plucking some fans.


edit: and before you go messing with your plants assuming thats how they work I beg you please do a little digging :-) that info aint hard to find.
I just realized I have no real knowledge on how they actually work up top :shock: I been thinking about the roots too much lol Im going to satisfy myself with a little learning later today :-) thanks! (concerning how nutrients flow through stems and throughout the plant)
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You should look into horticulture, I really think you would like it.

genuity said:
good place to start>>>>> http://www.cabrillo.edu/~ncrane/bio1c/botPDFs/xylemphloemflow.pdf
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Anything with an .edu I trust. I'll have to link up some sites that my college has from some of my classes, let me see if I can find them.

DST said:
1, do not remove fan leaves
2, remove lower foliage by all means,
3, especially NO removal of fan leaves in veg stage....plants stretch in flower.

Nature put them there for a reason, now leave be, lol.
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I totally forgot what I was going to say about this one lol, damn you scissor hash.

Hello 6, hope everyone is having a good afternoon, I know I am :D :D :D

As whodat and a few others have been asking about my God's gift and my new mix I will be sharing a few of my secrets later this evening as some tips on composting that I learned in school :D

Well have a great evening guys, headed out to my son's baseball game, medibles ready for the drive ;)

Stay high my friends.
 
Made another night ride vid on my scooter late last night.
Was out for over an hour and got 26-minutes of helmet cam footage:

[video=youtube_share;E8YdFI4PQQo]http://youtu.be/E8YdFI4PQQo[/video]
 
Well I will be receiving my 600 hps in the mail tomorrow and look forward to posting some pix from my 600. I am running a 400 right now and am looking forward to what the upgrade will produce for me.
 
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