Chronikool’z LED + Organic + SOG + Party cup perpetual ‘boxes of fun’ grow!™

[Chronikool]

Sorry about the delay in getting back to you....Its hard to find out information on them as people think 'you will steal their secret recipes'....jeeesh

I am under the impression they are made with both real and artificial Eskimo (Eskimos?)

Sort of underground...hush hush shit!

 

[Chronikool]

Sorry about that rant ^^^^^ (Acid must have got to me.....)

So i got (Dry):

12 grams of Acid (4 grams per plant)
16 grams of Pineapple Express (2.666666666666666667 grams per plant)

Back to the freezer....

Next.....

 

[Chronikool]

Not sure how long i'll keep this going...as it has run its course...and i dont want to ram it down anyones throats...spamming ones journal is the height of ego...

I believe the 660 bars have really helped...much more frosty then without it...maybe better size....but i think i need more 660nm to make a difference.


9 weeks - In last week of flowering


Are the Cree XPG's worth it....I think so...closer node development...making more viable flowering sites...lower power usage....

Child of a XPG....


I think that i have to do some lollipopping on these and it is getting pretty bushy (as you can see) ...never tried it..i guess i do it in the early stages of flowering?

So in the coming weeks/months:

4 weeks Veg time
New XPG's
More 660 bars
Own soil mix

I hope people have got something out of it...

 

[Scotch089]

Hey brother, ive been meaning to get on here and post this but shits been busy. I saw these at wally world a couple weeks ago and thought these would be PERFECT for makin some colloidal silver, when I get around to it. Figured itd give you a good reason to keep the ball rollin on here, too! Good luck bub

 

[hyroot]

Vegging for 4 weeks in party cups......?....


Ohhh doze wittle buds are so adorable.....lol

They look tasty n dank though.


Edit:

Have you ever thought of doing a soil bed instead of cups? No rootbound. More room for roots to grow. Bigger buds. Larger yield.... But you can't rotate plants.



Stay frosty

 

[SnotBoogie]

Im still reading close Chroni, you narcissist!!

 

[FranJan]

Hey C what's shakin? I finally got my shit together and finished those XP-Es I bought. Remember the company you linked to for LED spotlight cases for me? Those fucks wanted more to ship them to me than it is to order some 30 watters off of EBay and remove the LED array it comes with. So I got on my Econo horse and came up with this. SDS I ain't LOL.




And don't even think I'm going to show you my solder joints, my ego couldn't handle it . Oh and my ego says your ego is a little whiny bitch, but I think that's a good thing bro . ROFLMAO!!!!

 

[Highocaine]

solder joints

I'm into electronics, and mine were bad - I sided on the side of "more is better" :/

 

[Chronikool]

Hey brother, ive been meaning to get on here and post this but shits been busy. I saw these at wally world a couple weeks ago and thought these would be PERFECT for makin some colloidal silver, when I get around to it. View attachment 2691061 Figured itd give you a good reason to keep the ball rollin on here, too! Good luck bub

Yeah i picked up a few of those for some other project....they should work well. Thanks bruv

Hope your bub and bud are doing well...

Vegging for 4 weeks in party cups......?....


Ohhh doze wittle buds are so adorable.....lol

They look tasty n dank though.


Edit:

Have you ever thought of doing a soil bed instead of cups? No rootbound. More room for roots to grow. Bigger buds. Larger yield.... But you can't rotate plants.



Stay frosty

Hey bruv.. they are a bit on the small size....the next run lookz alot better though...harvest in a few days for those...

I decided to veg for 4 weeks after i had a look at the roots in the 1st harvest...plenty of room for more root development...

Thought about a soil bed.... but i like keeping the plants separate, and if there is a plant that is failing (for any reason) i can remove it easily.... Watering is also easier and i can cater for the plants indivual needs a lot better...yeah and rotation and stuff rah rah...

All good...trying to dial in now....

Hey C what's shakin? I finally got my shit together and finished those XP-Es I bought. Remember the company you linked to for LED spotlight cases for me? Those fucks wanted more to ship them to me than it is to order some 30 watters off of EBay and remove the LED array it comes with. So I got on my Econo horse and came up with this. SDS I ain't LOL.




And don't even think I'm going to show you my solder joints, my ego couldn't handle it . Oh and my ego says your ego is a little whiny bitch, but I think that's a good thing bro . ROFLMAO!!!!

Looking lovely...nice work! Happy with them? 2 x Cool white and 1 x warm? Good heatsinks, and design of the system bruv...!

Looking forward to my XPG's turning up so i can complete my latest mission...

I had a cry over that ego remark.....then i started howling when i thought of your soldering's....hahaha!

I'm into electronics, and mine were bad - I sided on the side of "more is better" :/

I may enroll in your school of thought...

 

[hyroot]

Dang my 1.5 gals get root bound after a few weeks. Then i transplant into 7gal. My party cups are rootbound in 3-5 days. In soil bed if one goes bad. Just yank it out. As long as you give them enzymes and good bacteria and fungi. You don't have to worry about dead roots. They will break down real quick.


Fran cleaning up solder joints is really easy even after it cools. Get the gun hot. Dab it on the messy part and just scoop it away. After awhile you will get good at clean soldering. I actually had classes in audio school in soldering everything on a board. Capacitors and diodes and what not. We had to know how to repair a mixing board or anything else in a studio or sound stage

the first class we built vu meters to start. I went through 2 of them. When i was almost done with the first i fried the diode ( not led). Which happens if you solder something into the wrong spot with the wrong voltage. We had to read everything by color. No diagrams to help. You can get vu meter diy kits at home depot.

We even made electronic synths using light diodes. Each time a diode would light up. It would play a tone. each one had a different tone.

In a recording session one time. Smoke started coming up out of the faders. Then they made fixing it a class thing. All it was was a burnt capacitor

 

[Chronikool]

I dont believe in the concept 'root bound'...hence it doesnt happen to me...

i am trying to get a good product for added bacteria and fungi...i like the look of this.... http://www.sumagrow.org/Home_Page.html

What enzymes do you add?

 

[hyroot]

Your plants don't grow much roots then. Mixing compost and worm castings in soil and top dressing them. Compost teas and enzymes teas make roots grow like crazy. Aloe too.


I just use coconut water for enzymes. 1/4 cup fresh coconut water per 5 gals of good water. Then Compost tea for everything else. Malted barley flour works great for an enzymes tea. I use fresh aloe gel in every watering. Compost teas every other watering. Enzymes teas the rest.


Read this thread


https://www.rollitup.org/organics/636057-recycled-organic-living-soil-rols.html

 

[Chronikool]

Thanks...i'll see if i can track down those ingredients...

Im also trying to track down some Alfalfa meal...as i heard that is good growth promoter...

 

[hyroot]

Thanks...i'll see if i can track down those ingredients...

Im also trying to track down some Alfalfa meal...as i heard that is good growth promoter...

Alfalfa meal is great during veg. Not so much during flower. Its high in nitrogen. I mix in soil prior to cooking soil. I use it in veg teas.

My tea is molasses, compost, worm castings, kelp meal, then add alfalfa for veg only.

You can pick up coconuts at any walmart grocery. And malted barley flour / powder on amazon.

 

[Chronikool]

So it is in your soil aswell....? So it is present through veg and flowering?

 

[hyroot]

I just use 1/2 cup per 4 cu ft. So just enough last through veg. All other nutes I use 1/4 cup per 1 cu ft.

Neem seed meal is good . Aside from being a fungicide. Its a great nutrient accumulator. It has

Potassium - 2%
Phosphorus - 1%
Nitrogen - 5%
Calcium - 3%
Magnesium -1%
Sulphur - 3%
Zinc - 60 ppm
Manganese - 60 ppm
Iron - 1200 ppm

 

[FranJan]

Looking lovely...nice work! Happy with them? 2 x Cool white and 1 x warm? Good heatsinks, and design of the system bruv...!

Looking forward to my XPG's turning up so i can complete my latest mission...

I had a cry over that ego remark.....then i started howling when i thought of your soldering's....hahaha!

Thanks for the kind words dude but I think one my solder joint that looks like a big goiter is casting a shadow on my plants. LOL

But besides that the XP-Es seem OK, but it's still too soon to see. They run surprisingly hot though, probably the mystery binnings. Actually I have 4xCW and 2xWW but 3 are on the other side of the cab as I wait for my replacement drivers for my 10 watt blues, (only 3 drivers killed this week! Yay!). Those heatsinks were lifted out of my 5x60s, (I'm going to reconfigure my 5x60), and I actually tried to run 2 XP-Es per heatsink with 2 fans, not too smart though. I was running a few without fans but decided that once they got all together, I'm going to veg 4 plants under all 6 and see how they do, the heat would become an issue. I really want to get better heatsinks so I can ditch the fans but for now these seem to be working.

So how's the cooling, and growth rate, going on with those XPGs? I guess you really like them since you're getting more, but is the growth rate substantially more than the whites you were using? And any FR in the future for your production line? I like the nugs you're getting and bet they're going to get bigger if you keep that style and just keep upgrading the equipment. Mini-Sogging has a future in this world!

And I did the driver farm rig with this setup, and while it didn't work at as aesthetically pleasing as I wanted it to, (hence no pix ), it really helps getting the drivers to run cooler. I noticed when I was running the XP-Es with the drivers hanging off the front of my cab where the opening is that they were much cooler than when running on top of the cabinet. So having those drivers out of the grow area and having some air running under them really makes cooling soooo much easier with spots. Think it's time to remote those nasty old drivers in my BS240s next.

Peace bud.

 

[Chronikool]

The XPG's are run cooler then my 'normie diodes' as they are pulling less amps...so less heat, less power usuage, less stress on the system and no fan usage....actually the heatsinks that come with the floods arent to shabby for what they are...

Growth rate is better then the 'normies'. They are in my 2nd section (weeks 2-4) so i know there is going to be alot of flower development anyway, but there is better inter-nodal development, therefore more bud sites. I guess with a better presence of 630 (ish) nm...but this is me assuming here

Hopefully this week, the rest will turn up and i can finish.

I dont think the better growth is because of the 660nm bars...as they are down the other end and minimal light would reach where the XPG is located.

Maybe i have got better at dialing in the grow as well...maybe..

Far Red...yeah i was looking around the other day and thinking how/where i would put these...probably put a bar with 7 x 1w 730-760nm right at the start of the enclosure (1st weeks of 12/12) Cos i also want to put 2 more bars of 660nm in and im fast running out of room! haha...

Any thoughts on where in development you would place the 'far reders'?

I have to keep my drivers in...(remember the icebergs? ) My drivers are holding up fine....about 14 weeks running this setup at the mo...no failures yet...easy change out though huh!

 

[FranJan]

I like the beginning and middle for you. In the beginning you'll get root production, though you got those killer roots to start with . Then the middle to get them drinking. I actually like them throughout, especially 730, but something up to 780 is great to get them drinking a bit more. FR/IR can really help get the plants to finish faster, though the exact way it works is escaping me. I won't grow without them anymore.

My XP-Es growth aren't all that, but i just got them going. My 5000K/12000K spotlights seem to do as good a job which is very surprising, though I don't have them running ATM because those cheap ass transformer/IC I used for the 10 watters blew. Great in the winter for keeping the icebergs at bay though .

 

[Chronikool]

Yip...that could work...its funny...still designing the flower enclosure after 16 weeks of flowering...hehehe...

Interesting you bring up drinking in the middle of flowering....as i am noticing a lack of water uptake from time to time. For example: water them then 2 days later...there is still run off in the bottom (at which point i empty it and let it rest) i dont think that should be happening though...

About your growth of the XP-Es....Both huge amounts of blue in both the spots and XP-Es...? So not much difference in spectrum?

I dont think i will be replacing my multi-diodes in my vege enclosure...i was more worried about the lack of the 600nm range in my flowering....which i hope the XP-Gs have an abundance of (even if i have 'cheaped' out on them) Fear of Chinese blue phosphors i guess...

Anywayz...im off to surf iceburgz and play polar bear polo....EPIC!