Combat Veteran Music

doublejj

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Yeah that psy-op stuff. De-personalization and intimidation of the enemy. It's hard to kill someone who is human to you. There's also that moment of horror because people don't expect to see ears/scalps/teeth or what have you hanging off someone. That moment may give you the advantage. Sigh..... the science of war. So there was a method to the madness, I guess.
I was such a naïve kid at 19
 

NietzscheKeen

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Yeah that psy-op stuff. De-personalization and intimidation of the enemy. It's hard to kill someone who is human to you. There's also that moment of horror because people don't expect to see ears/scalps/teeth or what have you hanging off someone. That moment may give you the advantage. Sigh..... the science of war. So there was a method to the madness, I guess.
When I started to associate with the locals in Iraq, I started breaking free from this brainwashing they (USAF and Army) had worked so hard to inflict upon me. This breaking free caused me a LOT of trouble and pain. Rumors were started and I think something my own squadron members did to me scarred me more mentally/emotionally than the IEDs, mortars, snipers, and otherwise constant knowledge that people were trying to kill you.
 

doublejj

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People are so miss informed about Vietnam. Do you know that the North & South Vietnamese aren't the same people? The lowely rice farmers in the south were 2nd class to the Northern/Chineese Vietnamese. The Vietnam war was every bit an invasion & land grab by the Northern people against the lower class peasants of the south. Much like the 'Mestizo's' of Mexico. It was the upper class stealing from the poor!
 

doublejj

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A few of the things you had to look out for while on infantry patrol in Vietnam. Like we used to say "it was just another walk in the sun"![video=youtube;B0VzJ4LJniE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=B0VzJ4LJniE[/video]
 

NietzscheKeen

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Reminds me of some of the stories I heard; the creativity, resourcefulness, and the level of malice that went into making these different devices.

I mean JESUS!!! 2:56 in the video above.
 

doublejj

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[video=youtube;XEBQgPwvrck]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XEBQgPwvrck[/video]
 

curious2garden

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" ..he thinks we'll put an end to war this way.."
You know I'd like to apologize for my rage filled response yesterday. I had a bad day and it got the best of me. You see this is something that affects my family personally and I have had to live with this.

This issue is to close to home for me. I'm not always as kind as I should be to those who blame the soldier for the policies of the state. You see they are merely a weapon of our government. The government is who deploys them and sets the objective. They are simply cannon fodder.

Let's see if this video can explain my feelings in a more polite way and again I do apologize for the shortness of my temper yesterday.

[video=youtube;zgTNKAYpVd4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgTNKAYpVd4[/video]

Annie
 

potpimp

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I wasn't as nice as C2G, thus Sunni deleting my post and sending me a nastygram, LOL. We do have a politics forum for all pansy-assed, cake eating conscientious objectors; this is not the right forum for that.
 

iNVESTIGATE

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While i am not a veteran of war, i had gotten that song from listening to a combat veteran who now speaks out against war(s).. a view which i think deserves respect as much as those who use and support the military industrial complex and its terminology like 'megadeath'/'collateral damage'/'civilian casualties'.
 

curious2garden

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While i am not a veteran of war, i had gotten that song from listening to a combat veteran who now speaks out against war(s).. a view which i think deserves respect as much as those who use and support the military industrial complex and its terminology like 'megadeath'/'collateral damage'/'civilian casualties'.
I responded to you directly and you were not even capable of acknowledging my apology. I have a hard time entertaining your views in a folder meant for those who served when you can't even respond to my humanity. Please head over to politics and at least allow us our memories in peace if you can't be compassionate.

You see this is my problem you peace mongers can't even show kindness for those who are suffering. Yet without evidence of your compassion you lecture us on our wrongs.

When their government called these men answered. Many were drafted but I doubt you've seen a draft in your lifetime. Please don't blame them for doing what they they HAD to do. If you want to debate the evils of the military industrial complex go create a thread in politics, toss me the link and I'll come and debate with you, if that is what you want but please may we have this thread in peace?

I would consider that a kindness.
 

Stillbuzzin

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I responded to you directly and you were not even capable of acknowledging my apology. I have a hard time entertaining your views in a folder meant for those who served when you can't even respond to my humanity. Please head over to politics and at least allow us our memories in peace if you can't be compassionate.

You see this is my problem you peace mongers can't even show kindness for those who are suffering. Yet without evidence of your compassion you lecture us on our wrongs.

When their government called these men answered. Many were drafted but I doubt you've seen a draft in your lifetime. Please don't blame them for doing what they they HAD to do. If you want to debate the evils of the military industrial complex go create a thread in politics, toss me the link and I'll come and debate with you, if that is what you want but please may we have this thread in peace?

I would consider that a kindness.


Bless you and a big THANK YOU. Sometimes we simply have to ignore simple minded people

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to curious2garden again.
 

doublejj

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Actually I expected more 'negative' posts, when I started this thread. I respect everyone's view of our veterans, we are each entitled to our opinions. But please be respectful. Thank you for taking the time to read this thread, & make comment.
 

curious2garden

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Fast-paced!
[video=youtube;0b2vW2tRmfQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=0b2vW2tRmfQ[/video]
 

doublejj

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[video=youtube;Sh5RHewBVKE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Sh5RHewBVKE[/video]
 

doublejj

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[video=youtube;cvysFHaUCA8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cvysFHaUCA8[/video]
 

doublejj

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[video=youtube;Pb4d87xvG6E]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb4d87xvG6E&feature=player_embedded[/video]
 

doublejj

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[video=youtube;PD15cYoFEHk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD15cYoFEHk&feature=player_embedded[/video]
 

doublejj

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[video=youtube;d6aVP1fgguk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=d6aVP1fgguk[/video]
 
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