Starving Roots from Oxygen before Harvest for Early Cure?

TrynaGroSumShyt

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i still don't believe this crap. i forgot the dudes name who made this shit up. Basing it on grapes n sht. Last 10 days i'm still packin on bud. I'd rather keep them under the light. the only real way to know is to do a side by side.
 
forgot to mention, That i have tried it.
How long did you drown them for? When did you start the procedure (after final swell, after trichs changed, etc)? What were your results? I'm very interested in hearing from people who have actually done this themselves. Please give us some more information!

According to Riddleme (and many others) this is the best way to get the "grassy" taste out of the weed without the long process of a slow controlled drying period. After a quick hang dry the buds are smooth and great tasting, and you can begin the cure. Riddleme might have gotten it from somebody else, but he seems to be the first one to really implement it with marijuana and document the results in a scientific manner. If you research it, the science is there. Most people seem to begin the process after the buds have finished swelling, during the point at which you'd normally be flushing and starving your plant (of nutrients) anyway. That's what makes the most sense to me too, so that's how I'm doing it.
 

TrynaGroSumShyt

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yea and riddle me is the ass hole that made that bullshit up. Along with a lot of other bullshit. i sniffed BS the first time he came on the board. All plants are not the same. He is comaring drowning and killing the plants to grape fermenting, WTF. There was no noticeable difference to me however i have also tried keeping them in the dark for a little bit at the end of flower. and that has worked for me in the past.
 
yea and riddle me is the ass hole that made that bullshit up. Along with a lot of other bullshit. i sniffed BS the first time he came on the board. All plants are not the same. He is comaring drowning and killing the plants to grape fermenting, WTF. There was no noticeable difference to me however i have also tried keeping them in the dark for a little bit at the end of flower. and that has worked for me in the past.
Those who have actually tried it seem to think otherwise, so I'm curious about your method. I already know you couldn't tell a difference, I just wanted to know your exact method before I try it myself. You seriously hate on this topic so much that you personally attack the grower? I'm sorry, but until I get some more information about your methods I'm not very inclined to believe you. No need to give somebody a hard time who tries to pass on something that works well for him. Granted, I haven't seen every single post but from what I've read so far the guy seems to know his stuff. And he gives me information I can use, not just opinions...
 

TrynaGroSumShyt

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Ok personally, i guess if you are harvesting 1 or two plants at a time this may be something worth trying if the science backed it. All i remember is 10 days before i harvested the rst i put it in water. it made no noticeable difference. NONE. Now think what would be the point of anyone doing a whole (10-40) plant harvest and drowning? Nothing but a big mess. I remember riddle mwe used to do his experiments with cfl's he didn't own HID's was doing 1 plant and claimed he was writing a book. and then kept pushing those crappy cheap synthetic Jacks classic nutes. He was everything that is wrong wit MJ game, making it so complicated when its so easy. You know what i find words for smell and flavor for myself recently, and it is noticeable. drying before manicuring. i don't know why at all. but it does.
 
Last run my initial dry with the bubblelicious ended up taking much longer than expected and my bud wasn't cured for over a month after I chopped. I can't sit on it for that long it's very inconvenient and the taste still wasn't quite as good as I expected (not bad, but not amazing). I'm no stranger to growing, I've grown outside for years and know how to cure properly. If I can potentially go from a 6 week cure to a 2 week cure, shit it's a no brainer. I really like the strain it's very low maintenance, high yield and it does well growing 12/12 from seed. The long cure is the worst part, probably because it's so resinous. The fact that this has worked for anybody to any degree is enough of an incentive for me to give it a serious try. I don't think it's very much trouble at all and if it works it's going to seriously change things for me.
 
Alright, I know this thread is kind of dead but I'm gonna bring it back with an update:

Not long ago I finished drowning 7 bubblelicious girls grown 12/12 from seed in soil under a 400sl hps cooltube in a small cabinet environment. Throughout the flowering cycle, I watered as usual with chem nutes at full strength right up until the end. A week away from chopping I bought a bunch of large 3 gallon freezer bags with the sliding zipper thing. Once the plants looked about ready to chop and the fan leaves had begun to yellow in color I pulled the plant out of the pot by the stem and popped it in a freezer bag. I zipped it closed, with the stem protruding through the top of the bag. I used a little duct tape to seal it up nice and reasonably air tight to limit the evaporation.

I put the root ball with the plastic bag around it back into the pot. I filled the bag with water once it was upright and positioned in the pot. The plant took about a half gallon of distilled water. I zipped the bag back up around the stem and sealed it back with the tape.

Over the next several days, I topped off the water regularly (every day or two). The plant continued to drink, and the leaves exhibited cool looking color changes (purples, pinks, oranges, reds, etc) like I've never seen before. Some of the purples and pinks transferred to the buds! I left the plant in the bag for 10 days. By the last 2 or 3 days the plant had stopped drinking and the remaining fan leaves had shriveled up around the buds. It looked like it was seriously dying. I chopped the entire plant at the stem and hung it up to dry.

It didn't take long at all for the plant to dry. MUCH quicker than in the past grows with the same strain. After about 4 or 5 days of hanging, I trimmed the buds and put them into mason jars with Caliber IV hygrometers. I burped them once or twice, and within a week or two the humidity stabilized at 65% indicating that burping wasn't necessary anymore and the jars were ready for long term storage.

Conclusion: Drowning accomplished everything I hoped for. I started smoking immediately after trimming the buds and they were pretty damn good right off the bat with no real harshness or grassy taste whatsoever. The smoothness surprised the heck out of me. I continued to cure them in the jars, but I pulled out nugs here and there over the next few weeks. They got better and better as time went on. The curing process was fast, especially considering how oily the bubblelicious is. Less than a month in the jars and they were incredible. It was easy to drown the plants and it sped up the curing process significantly. I also got to smoke my crop much earlier. I'm a convert now, and I'm doing this on every plant from here on out. It's an incredible way to cure. My stuff is so smelly and tasty, with very little effort overall. I definitely recommend this method.
 
ive heard about water curing buds...
I'll repeat what everyone else has already said... this is NOTHING like water curing.

You drown the root ball and starve the plant of oxygen so the buds begin to cure while the plant is still alive. Research it a little and try it out. If you're capable of following simple directions you will like the results. I was skeptical, but it sure did work for me.
 

propertyoftheUS

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Ok personally, i guess if you are harvesting 1 or two plants at a time this may be something worth trying if the science backed it. All i remember is 10 days before i harvested the rst i put it in water. it made no noticeable difference. NONE. Now think what would be the point of anyone doing a whole (10-40) plant harvest and drowning? Nothing but a big mess. I remember riddle mwe used to do his experiments with cfl's he didn't own HID's was doing 1 plant and claimed he was writing a book. and then kept pushing those crappy cheap synthetic Jacks classic nutes. He was everything that is wrong wit MJ game, making it so complicated when its so easy. You know what i find words for smell and flavor for myself recently, and it is noticeable. drying before manicuring. i don't know why at all. but it does.
If you think RM3 is full of shit and his methods aren't KISS then you might want to take a grammar class and start understanding the English language a little better. What is any simpler than using Jack's Classic from start to finish and "making it rain"? Ohhh I see your screen name now!!! Maybe you should've capitalized TRYNA and could've spared me backing up a member who has contributed more to this community in a single thread than all of your BS money blowing snake oil hype you call keeping it simple,,,,,,,STUPID
 

testiclees

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brick, your out of my league bro. so my question now is.. will it do any good for me to tape up the drain holes in my pot, fill with water and let sit in darkness for 48-72 hours before i cut? will it help, not help, or make no difference? im new to harvesting/drying and curing. and your explanation is too advanced for me, im sorry man. thank you for all the advice you've given me so far, its made my grows so much
brick, your out of my league bro. so my question now is.. will it do any good for me to tape up the drain holes in my pot, fill with water and let sit in darkness for 48-72 hours before i cut? will it help, not help, or make no difference? im new to harvesting/drying and curing. and your explanation is too advanced for me, im sorry man. thank you for all the advice you've given me so far, its made my grows so much better.
better.
Bro your boy fatality tosses out a bucket of cluless bull schit calls it science next guy very diplomatically tells fatality hes an idiot then you tell him hes out of his league. Bro you have NO CLUE..

This is why riu is known as the biggest knot of idiots in 420 interwebs.
 

reapersfamiliar

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Old thread back from the dead LOL

100's have tried this since I first mentioned it, but now a days we all simply water the plant with boiling water and it happens instantly rather than waiting 7 to 10 days :)
yeah.you caught my eye.been thinking about the boiling water.i'm about 3 weeks from harvest and wanted to test this time around.

what exactly do you do? can i just water? do i have to bag?
 

RM3

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yeah.you caught my eye.been thinking about the boiling water.i'm about 3 weeks from harvest and wanted to test this time around.

what exactly do you do? can i just water? do i have to bag?
Simply water em with boilin water then leave em under the lights for 3 to 5 days, then harvest
 

reapersfamiliar

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Simply water em with boilin water then leave em under the lights for 3 to 5 days, then harvest
oh! so lights still on? hmmmmmmm. is there a link to a thread talking about the benefits?..i know you explained to everyone the other day and i hate to ask again how that makes the difference.

boiling water > kills roots > under light > ?
 

RM3

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oh! so lights still on? hmmmmmmm. is there a link to a thread talking about the benefits?..i know you explained to everyone the other day and i hate to ask again how that makes the difference.

boiling water > kills roots > under light > ?
most of the info is in my Truth about Flushing thread I believe?

Boiling water kills the roots, this deprives them of O2, when plants are deprived of O2 they go into a survival mode fermenting sugars into alcohol. It is a natural process that all plants do. You leave em under the light because they are not dead yet and require light for the energy to ferment the sugars. Even with the roots dead they continue to grow, I have seen many foxtails after a good boil LOL

and NO, I do not do any kind of dark period before harvest, I tried it and saw no benefit
 

reapersfamiliar

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most of the info is in my Truth about Flushing thread I believe?

Boiling water kills the roots, this deprives them of O2, when plants are deprived of O2 they go into a survival mode fermenting sugars into alcohol. It is a natural process that all plants do. You leave em under the light because they are not dead yet and require light for the energy to ferment the sugars. Even with the roots dead they continue to grow, I have seen many foxtails after a good boil LOL

and NO, I do not do any kind of dark period before harvest, I tried it and saw no benefit
thank you so much, exactly what i wanted to know:wink:
 

Huel Perkins

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I have experience with this, unfortunately...

I grow DWC hydro and had an air pump failure. In less 24 hours of the roots being submerged with no air bubbles to provide O2 it killed just about every leaf on my plants. It's as if the plant actually sucked it's leaves dry in order to preserve life in its flowers. When I say it sucked the leaves dry I mean it, they went from lush green to a whiteish brown literally in less than 24 hours... Unfortunately I was only 6 weeks deep on a 10 week strain, crop ruined.
 
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