BHO with Vacuum oil/wax tutorial

650baquet

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just say fuck it, haaaaa, 650 has the potential for this, i got like no damn room.


been so busyyy, shits been winterizing for about 78 hours so far now.. heheheeee. hoping to work on her one dayyyyyyyyyyyy.


moons in the "waxing crescent" phase :]


its a sign.


stay up fellas
Ya...i could lol and would totally love to live in my jungle. If i wanted to do some serious expanding...i could just finish my basement/tarp the entire thing in panda plastic. I would have over 300sqft to work with, and have the upstairs for clones and drying/curing. In my dreams!

I've been really busy too man...keep saying i'll post shit and don't...whatever haha it's nice out finally and i have been spending time with the dogs and just don't want to be sitting on the computer at all or in the house for that matter. The first video i shot wasn't great anyways...i was too stoned and rambled on a lot :weed: but this scraggly LCOG i just harvest last, grown under LED, has some of the best flavor of all mine haha wtf but i'm enjoying it too much and before i know it i'll be out. I don't feel i even get too congested smoking it; Gina just takes a whiff outta the jar and is ripped lol jk!

Getting anxious too flower my VK...Going to take about 6 clones from it; and my 2-TW's and LCOG. As well as a few Choco clones. Getting stocked up to surround that 600W vertically...mainly because i'm too damn curious how well it'll work. I just keep thinking about having to make sure plants are the same height-ish and keep wondering where the lamp position relative to the bud growth will be best. Not going to know that until i have it all setup.

Waiting to get paid before i can purchase more reflective material to cover walls...i have panda plastic and it's what 75%+ reflective? I suppose that would work just fine but i still don't have enough idt.

Anyways, hope your extract turns out dank. i love that golden color you have in the dish!
 

Guzias1

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Ya...i could lol and would totally love to live in my jungle. If i wanted to do some serious expanding...i could just finish my basement/tarp the entire thing in panda plastic. I would have over 300sqft to work with, and have the upstairs for clones and drying/curing. In my dreams!

I've been really busy too man...keep saying i'll post shit and don't...whatever haha it's nice out finally and i have been spending time with the dogs and just don't want to be sitting on the computer at all or in the house for that matter. The first video i shot wasn't great anyways...i was too stoned and rambled on a lot :weed: but this scraggly LCOG i just harvest last, grown under LED, has some of the best flavor of all mine haha wtf but i'm enjoying it too much and before i know it i'll be out. I don't feel i even get too congested smoking it; Gina just takes a whiff outta the jar and is ripped lol jk!

Getting anxious too flower my VK...Going to take about 6 clones from it; and my 2-TW's and LCOG. As well as a few Choco clones. Getting stocked up to surround that 600W vertically...mainly because i'm too damn curious how well it'll work. I just keep thinking about having to make sure plants are the same height-ish and keep wondering where the lamp position relative to the bud growth will be best. Not going to know that until i have it all setup.

Waiting to get paid before i can purchase more reflective material to cover walls...i have panda plastic and it's what 75%+ reflective? I suppose that would work just fine but i still don't have enough idt.

Anyways, hope your extract turns out dank. i love that golden color you have in the dish!
yo! i got no basement! dudeee, if i were you,, damnnnnnnn.

i oculd take just a portion of that square fottage and rock it out.

panda film works just dandy. some reflective material costs too much IMO. you truly want to focus all the growth towards the light anyways.. small pop corn undeveloped buds below are just annoying in a small environment.

LCOG sounds like a keeper dude, thought you were thinking of ridding her? lol

good luck on the vert mann..

im going to eventually get around to that, i just have to plan out my harvests.. im too deep, got 4 different cycles going under one light, gotta plan just one giant harvest! then i can clear out my room.. In that case, I'll probably pick my fastest harvesting plant to do so.. i soo want to go vert though. seems fun :]
 

Guzias1

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you guys should really invest the 6$ and get a stainless steel dish form wal mart! very easy to scrape and you can get 100% back. it pays itself off the first scrape!

can you post a pic of your dish? 100% you say, ehhh .. not like 95%?
 

vacpurge

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band the blade and manipulate it around the bend.. I can either start on the top and work my way down, or start on the middle flat part and scrape upwards. ill get a video of it when I am home. takes a little practice to get the blade bend right and not snap it, but its pretty simple overall.
 

Guzias1

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how do you guys boil off your ethanol?

i ended up placing my pyrex on a heat skillet, towards the end, my oil was about 115F .. it reach temps as high as 125F momentarily.

after i felt it was ready, i put in the vac chamber, tried to achieve muffin.. but basically, after all night, and an hour more this morning.. i couldnt get muffin :[[[[[[[[

i started to get a more easy to work with product, (no heat in vac) but after many vacs, releases, folds down to center.. i got tired of it.

placed into vac chamber 29.2 HG, 115F

now im at work, just wondering what the hell it will be like when i get back..

im terribly afraid i've gooed for life this shit..

316 grams of excellent trim in :[
 

vacpurge

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yeah you wont get everclear to muffin.

the only reason the muffin exists is because of severly underpurged oil... its the mass amount of butane escaping making those thousands of giant bubbles.

also, I dont think you can get everclear oil to wax up either.

if you let it sit for a few days, long enough and thin enough. it WILL turn to shatter. which is what you ultimately want.

despite looking pretty. muffins are not a good thing normally, and neither is wax most times.. shatter at room temp is where its at!!! when I stick my dabber into my glob of everclear oil, it cracks and shatters... feels like youre crushing glass up. sounds like it too.
 

Guzias1

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yeah you wont get everclear to muffin.

the only reason the muffin exists is because of severly underpurged oil... its the mass amount of butane escaping making those thousands of giant bubbles.

also, I dont think you can get everclear oil to wax up either.

if you let it sit for a few days, long enough and thin enough. it WILL turn to shatter. which is what you ultimately want.

despite looking pretty. muffins are not a good thing normally, and neither is wax most times.. shatter at room temp is where its at!!! when I stick my dabber into my glob of everclear oil, it cracks and shatters... feels like youre crushing glass up. sounds like it too.

im totally down for shatter, buttt. how do you boil off the ethanol ?? just wait??? any heat? if so, what is the highest temp you reach before vacuum?

im honestly shooting for shatter here, smooooth shatter.
 

Twitch

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ummmm i just did a winterization and it muffin-ed, its in the vac chamber as i type

and didnt guzias post up some pics of some stuff that was all wax that he said he winterized
and i have some that i winterized and it is waxing up
 

Guzias1

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ummmm i just did a winterization and it muffin-ed, its in the vac chamber as i type

and didnt guzias post up some pics of some stuff that was all wax that he said he winterized
and i have some that i winterized and it is waxing up


Tis true. It honestly seemed to be going the muffin route, but it took me over 3 hours of repetitive full time vac and release to get it drier to touch .

I think im working with about 40 grams here though, compared to the 8 I winter waxed.


But hey!

Twitch: how do you boil off the ethano prior to vacuuml? ? Double boiler? steam? Skillet? Fan? space heater fan?

What's involved? anddd a big one here, what are the temps you are working with to do so?

vacpurge! Same question to you man!

Baquettttt600vert :p same exact question to you!
 

Twitch

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damnit... its like post one all over again lol
1 table spoon per gram of everclear
12 to 36 hours in freezer depends on how much i am doing
2 to 3 coffee filters
filter it on to pyrex set to 105 and a gentle fan

when i see the beads form and i can hold the dish on its side with out any of it moving, i scrape it onto parchment paper. then i spread it thin and put it in the vac chamber at 125.
i have a half gram that has been purging for 18 hours now i think not sure, and so far all the stuff i have done has been stuff that i had already vacpurged to wax. i have been thinking about just dumping the bho goo right after i blast and scrap it right into ever clear....
 

vacpurge

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im totally down for shatter, buttt. how do you boil off the ethanol ?? just wait??? any heat? if so, what is the highest temp you reach before vacuum?

im honestly shooting for shatter here, smooooth shatter.
I am honestly not too sure of the heat.. I wasnt too concerned on looks. this is my personal. I just dont want to hurt my lungs.

I put it on my black griddle thats in the above pictures... those are both everclear batches made from bubble hash. the green dish is 5g of rock hard hash. the red one is 2g of very very soft hash. I left at around 150F for 2 or so hours. then after another day or so of sitting it really hardens up.

even though I get shatter, which is nice. I still flash it with a quick flame before smoking it to soften it up and make easier dabs with.
 

vacpurge

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yeah I forgot that you waxed up some winterized oil. weird. I dont think mine would (same as the BHO story) ... I am on a 1 week vacation right now, I knew I should threw some oil in the chamber and let it sit for the week I was gone damnit!!!!!!! I still think that with enough time in the chamber (2 weeks+) that most oils would wax up.
 

Twitch

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yeah I forgot that you waxed up some winterized oil. weird. I dont think mine would (same as the BHO story) ... I am on a 1 week vacation right now, I knew I should threw some oil in the chamber and let it sit for the week I was gone damnit!!!!!!! I still think that with enough time in the chamber (2 weeks+) that most oils would wax up.
do you garden your own? i have heard that there are some stuff people will spray on their plants that is pulled out when you blast will cause it to not wax, but i also think it makes it really dark and i thought i recalled you having gold stuff. just a thought, i had some stuff in which that was the case it sucked...
 

650baquet

Active Member
do you garden your own? i have heard that there are some stuff people will spray on their plants that is pulled out when you blast will cause it to not wax, but i also think it makes it really dark and i thought i recalled you having gold stuff. just a thought, i had some stuff in which that was the case it sucked...
I personally stay away form all foliar sprays...i might actually just wash leaves with water to clean them but not usually. I used Neem oil a couple times and was like sweeet look at the shiny leaves...WAIT AM I GONNA BE SMOKING THAT WAXY COATING???!!! so i stopped and i use it on my fruit trees/shrubs.

A buddy's herb tastes nasty once in a while and i totally blame it on over foliar spraying and letting shit pool up on leaves and in buds.

Maybe say foliar spraying before flower is okay by me...def don't want anything in my bud that doesn't need to be.
 

650baquet

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GUZIAS!!!

I just use a skillet as well. Lowest heat really, and fan it or just place paper or something over the dish to cover from dust/dog hair.

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Two perma goos mixed together. one kinda like a thick butter and the other nice amber oil. all nearly completely dissolved in the everclear, only see a few contaminates floating around.

So i think i might have mentioned i'm not going to be distilling due to the high temp and long time used during distilling. I don't know but maybe FADE might know if that high temp is leaving my final extract like a true oil...runny and oily to the touch, not even entirely sticky. I'm pretty sure most of the ethanol is purged. I didn't get any pics of the second attempt which is the amber oil but it was not only vacuumed but sat out very thin for over a week...still smells great but heavier aromas.

I just had to take a couple dabs of the nice looking amber oil...i didn't smell at all like ethanol, and the dab was actually smooth but it tasted like all the lighter terpenes are gone.

Anyways i was still weary about it so i was going to rewinterize and filter again, this time just evaping the ethanol low heat thin film.

Tomorrow I will be filtering that BHO run i did a like 4 days ago now. Should be some good shit :) Saw a good amount of crap separate before i even placed into the freezer.

I keep getting distracted by the pups so i'm just gonna go ahead and post this before i forget lol
 

Guzias1

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I personally stay away form all foliar sprays...i might actually just wash leaves with water to clean them but not usually. I used Neem oil a couple times and was like sweeet look at the shiny leaves...WAIT AM I GONNA BE SMOKING THAT WAXY COATING???!!! so i stopped and i use it on my fruit trees/shrubs.

A buddy's herb tastes nasty once in a while and i totally blame it on over foliar spraying and letting shit pool up on leaves and in buds.

Maybe say foliar spraying before flower is okay by me...def don't want anything in my bud that doesn't need to be.

I stay away from the sprays as well. I only spray for pest issues, i like clean air, and good humidity for my ladies.
I've heard of sprays interfering with people process as well, but Im pretty sure vacpurge aint the one goring it.


Thanks for all the replies guys, Im going to place a tee shirt over my next boil off, and use as fan with skillet, making sure my oil never hits above 100F. think that would be a safe bet.

have fun with the puppy man! cant wait till the day i get my own. im pretty much a free dog sitter :]

A picture is worth a guzillion words :]



 

Twitch

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the one on the left was not vacpurged the one on the right how ever was vacpurged for 24 hours both winterized the same way..... its madness
 
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