Help anyone have any idea where im going wrong

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nutcracka

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Hi all im new to growing so bare with me please.. :d
this is my first grow in hydroponics dwc
my system is a 6 bucket rdwc bubbler
at the moment i only have the 1 bucket hooked up
im using vitalink max nutz
im in week 3 of flowering using vitalink bloom and fulvic
i did a res change this morning after sorting out my ph meter (wasnt set right)
i use a 30 liter res
airpump is 6 outlet kicks up some right bubbles
this was my mix
90ml a 90ml b 60ml fulvic 5ml superthrive
ph is at 5.8
tempo 27-28 max 29 lights on not sure of tempo when lights are off :/

these a bit of fade in colour of my girl :(
and seems to me the growth is slow as i thought bubbler system was the fast way to grow :/

also how far away should my light be from top of plant im using a 600 watt sunblaster

it will be week 4 on the 14th tuesday so i have to add vitalink buddy to my feed then
im just a bit confused as wots going wrong with my girl any1 help me out please?
 

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motech

motech

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How often you change your res and how far do you let the ph go up before adjusting it down. Your girl is locked out, all those discolored leaves won't come back and you dont have much left to photo synthesize with. I always keep a second PH kit handy such as GH test drops. And keep the res changed bout every 10 to 12 days. Also you need to create a rhizosphere in your res by adding the necessary Mycorrhizae, and keep your ph spot on... 6.3 to 5.8. You know when its time to change the res when you gotta constantly keep bumpin the ph down.

Its hard for your plant to eat what you give it when there is no living organisims to break it down and feed the roots.

are you using R/O water or tap water or ?
 
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TWS

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There is no rhizophere in a bucket full of water. they die ! and what are they breaking down ? synthetic nutes. a yeah ok.
 
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nutcracka

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i change my res every 7days and i did my res change this morning about 9am and havent adjusted my ph yet as it was at 5.7 its now goneup to 5.8
i use my tap water and that ph is at 7.1
 
motech

motech

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Tapwater is the key to your problems and is a major no no. First of all tap water has alot of nasty bacteria in it that makes that ph battle impossible.
 
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TWS

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Dude you need Micros, cal mag and a nitrogen based base nutrient along with a bloom nutrients. It looks like an Iron deff.
 
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TWS

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And there is nothing wrong with tap water if dechlored And has no difference in setting PH.
 
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nutcracka

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wot does you say i should do im not sure on other feed as ive never used them this is my first ever grow so im a newbie to this wot nutz should i use ppl you lot seem to no ur shit lol so all advice is welcome :D thank you guys
 
motech

motech

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It dont matter what you add in the form of micro macro bla bla bla nutrients ya gotta have manageable suspension, when the PH is swingin so fast you gonna go hungry. I'm not sayin micro nutes are not good, what I am sayin is that tap water won't let the nutrient uptake process happen when the ph is movin so fast out of tolerance. Lets face it when a day goes by and the ph only moves maybe 3/10ths of a point, thats a healthy consistant environment in which a rootzone can eat
 
mehrific

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nutcracka said:
i only use vita link max bloom and vita link fulvic as i was told to only use them by hydro store
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bloom only ay.........that hydro store must think your growing some cilantro. cant find info on npk ratio for these nutes. if it has really low N, add some N. Needed throughout entire life cycle.
 
70's natureboy

70's natureboy

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That's one of the weirdest deficiencies I have seen. I have never heard of your nutes either. I think you are taking the hard road here. There are easier complete nutes that you could use that would be easier for a noob. Floranova and Dynagro are pretty simple complete feeds that don't need any other additives for the most part. I switched to Dynagro for DWC because it keeps the water clear. Both of them keep the ph pretty stable. A lot of people grow just fine with tap water but it can be a small problem if the starting ppms are too high.
 
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TWS

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short run down To my method. You need a good PH pen And PPM pen too . I always used dechlored tap water unless I didn't have any dechlored from sitting out. I use General Hydroponic Nutes (cost effective) Part A & B for base nutes and their micros and PH down. I use Cal mag plus from Bonticare . Superthrive is a Hoax. It's really pretty simple and you need to learn your size of bucket and how much nutes it takes to make a change and how to read what your plant needs. Follow the instructions on the bottles using HALF of what they say. PPMs of equal amounts of ALL nutrients according to size of plants. Sprouts with roots just hitting the water 300 ppms graduating up weekly to Teens 500 ppms working up to about 800 ppms before flower. At this point you transition into flower at the same ppms but increase the PK or bloom nutes working your way up to 1000 ppms. Once you know your shit you can start backing down the part A ( vegg nutes ) and adding more part B and Bloom boosters and reach 1200 ppms. I suggest you read this because you will experience this in time. https://www.rollitup.org/dwc-bubbleponics/361430-dwc-root-slime-cure-aka.html All so, are you taking readings before and after you top off your bucket ? You are adding back in Nutes if needed on top off right. This should be done daily.
 
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TWS

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motech said:
It dont matter what you add in the form of micro macro bla bla bla nutrients ya gotta have manageable suspension, when the PH is swingin so fast you gonna go hungry. I'm not sayin micro nutes are not good, what I am sayin is that tap water won't let the nutrient uptake process happen when the ph is movin so fast out of tolerance. Lets face it when a day goes by and the ph only moves maybe 3/10ths of a point, thats a healthy consistant environment in which a rootzone can eat
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Tap water does not swing anymore or less then RO or conditions or amount of nutes in a bucket. RO misses out on calicium and magnesium . Micros are the most used and available nutes. Don't tell me they don't matter. And you can Swing from 5.5 to 6.5 and be fine but just not be taking up nutes as best as possible.
 
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