Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

fattiemcnuggins said:
Thanks again for all this info guys---rising moon, head treep, nick nasty, RRog, others that I forgot

My yields are the best they've ever been lately.

So my next questions are-----


How often do you apply the dandelion topdress?

How often is on the coconut water/water?

And, can I use clay from my yard in place of these other clays I hear about? It's a brownish/red thick type clay.


​Thanks for any answers!
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Don't know about the dandelion or clays but I use coconut/aloe water once a week some will use it almost every watering but that can get expensive.
 
fattiemcnuggins said:
Maybe someone else could elaborate on this? -- I was curious too. I think part if it is like you said, not enough soil/=not enough nutes in long haul.
--was thinking the worms needed room to roam a bit. my smaller buckets seem like they were having an issue with compacting too much on my first run. Why only 2 girls?


I'm trying 10 plants in 2 20?gallon rubbermaids right now. Prlly end up with a few males and train the leftover ladies to fill in the gaps. Anyone see any issues with this?
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huh im kinda stoney right now didnt remember that you could put more than 1 plant per pot ... hehe guess those stores have to sell those small pots too heh...

so i have space for 2 10 gallon containers...how many plants can i plant in those ?? (sorry but this questions always troubled me)
 
I've know people to put to plants in a one pot but I'd stick with one depending on your setup. Cann puts a couple of plants in a 45 gal I'm pretty sure. I grow trees so I use either a 7 gal or 10 for one plant. If you had a little 250hps or something maybe you could use a 10 gal to grow a couple of strains.
 
NickNasty said:
Don't know about the dandelion or clays but I use coconut/aloe water once a week some will use it almost every watering but that can get expensive.
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Awesome. I've been doing it about every 2 weeks bc I wasn't sure. It is amazing.

had some drooping I couldn't pinpoint, not a regular thing around here..anyway the coconut water cleared up what could have been a situation overnight.
 
Some results--


Here's a sour apple from clone 5 or 6 weeks of 12/12. In R.O.L.S.
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Here's the inside of a finished noug--


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---and a bubblegum macro I know I already shared a cpl of these in my thread

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fattiemcnuggins said:
Awesome. I've been doing it about every 2 weeks bc I wasn't sure. It is amazing.

had some drooping I couldn't pinpoint, not a regular thing around here..anyway the coconut water cleared up what could have been a situation overnight.
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Unfortunately, my temps are high, mid 80s to low 90s, so I foliar everyday..usually at least 2-3 times/week with aloe. I soil drench 2-3 times/week, usually once with coconut water. The heat doesn't seem to be bothering em too much with this regimen. Hopefully get some pics up here later.
 
I've looked EVERYWHERE -besides wal mart-for a stinking aloe plant= home depot, lowes, aco, meijer. I don't usually order anything online so I might have to go check walmart(ihatethem)
 
fattiemcnuggins said:
I've looked EVERYWHERE -besides wal mart-for a stinking aloe plant= home depot, lowes, aco, meijer. I don't usually order anything online so I might have to go check walmart(ihatethem)
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Lucky for me, out here in the desert there's aloe everywhere. I just stroll over to my neighbors yard and hack off a few leaves.. 8-)
 
Nice looking results fattie. I'd like to blaze a fattie of those gorgeous meds! Keep the eye candy coming.
 
Thanks kalyx:smile: I'd love to share if I could- that's the best part! I'll drop some more pics in a few weeks so as not to clutter the thread.
 
The dandelion and clays question...

I use a clay called "French Green Clay", I mix it in small amounts with my soil (teaspoon per gallon) and I also foliar spray it, along with aloe and botanical herbs.

When used as a foliar it provides available minerals in balanced proportions directly to the plant. It also creates a barrier when it dries, helping prevent heat stress, pest damage and mold pressure.

It can also be top dressed in the No-till system. As you can see by the numbers, it is very high in Silica, and moderately high in Calcium, Magnesium, Iron and others...


The dandelions can be used a number of ways, if they are fresh, you can just put them right on top, just not too thick. You can also pick them and dry them in the sun, on a screen. That way you can collect a bunch for top dressing, teas and mixing with your soil.

Its Dandelion season everyone! Lets ALL go out and pick this AMAZING, SILICA RICH, FREE, HERBAL FERTILIZER!

Ill be posting pictures of the bounty I harvest tomorrow after my hike.
 
Thanks for the info as always RM

I did just that, a thing layer of fresh ones. so it looks like I'm good-my neighbors hate the small field I've been growing LOL

Didn't know it was a good source of silica, that's great to hear.
 
I love using flowers and other botanicals for mulch. Flower power!!!

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fattiemcnuggins said:
Didn't know it was a good source of silica, that's great to hear.
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Yeah they are amazing plants...

Vitamins A, C and B(s), Iron, Calcium, Magnesium, Phosphorus, Potassium, Sulfur

AND the white sap they contain is highly alkaline and has germicidal, insecticidal and fungicidal properties...

While the Dandelion root is a rich provider of vitamins, minerals, trace minerals, amino acids, natural sugars and starches. The roots are rich in iron, manganese, phosphorous, protein, aluminum and carotene's. They also contain calcium, chromium, cobalt, magnesium, niacin, potassium, riboflavin, silicon, sodium, tin, zinc, and ascorbic acid.

Whew!

Nick named "Natures Pharmacy"
 
Rising Moon said:
Yeah they are amazing plants...

Vitamins A, C and B(s), Iron, Calcium, Magnesium, Phosphorus, Potassium, Sulfur

AND the white sap they contain is highly alkaline and has germicidal, insecticidal and fungicidal properties...

While the Dandelion root is a rich provider of vitamins, minerals, trace minerals, amino acids, natural sugars and starches. The roots are rich in iron, manganese, phosphorous, protein, aluminum and carotene's. They also contain calcium, chromium, cobalt, magnesium, niacin, potassium, riboflavin, silicon, sodium, tin, zinc, and ascorbic acid.

Whew!

Nick named "Natures Pharmacy"
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Nice share! Loaded my dandelion concentrate press just last week. https://www.rollitup.org/organics/427826-soil-food-web-gardening-compost-119.html#post9031261
 
I have a question about compost. I know its best to make your own but I can't right now. If you were to purchase compost would you prefer horse, cow, or chicken manure based?I have access to a local blend of "certified organic" equine based compost and I also have local access to Farmer D and Wholly Cow brands (both can be found on google). Does anyone have any experience with these? I had considered ordering Bu's blend Malibu compost or Buffaloam but would really like to avoid the shipping costs...but I will if it worth it. Any input is appreciated. The local equine based is only $3.00 for 5 gallons.

Also, has anyone tried corn gluten meal in there soil?

Thanks
 
Personally I prefer no poop in my compost. If I buy compost I buy Eco Scraps from home depot and general organics ancient forest Alaskan forest humus.
 
Id go with the local composted horse manure, IF they can assure you it is weed free, and made under good practices and intentions.

Composted Horse manure is known to be just about perfect for most garden plants, although, the quality of the bedding mixed with the initial manure is also a huge factor to consider...

Ask what they use for bedding, is it straw, newspaper, wood shavings/chips, sawdust...?

Clean straw being preferred over sawdust, and news paper and wood chips are the least desirable.

Also, are the horse stalls regularly sprayed for flies? If so that pesticide residue will be in your compost.

As far as certified organic compost goes, the USDA has made this an easy achievement, as long as the compost reaches a certain temperature, and you jump through the hoops/paper work, the cow/chicken/horse manure can come from anywhere, under any practices.
That means manure from animals that ate GMOS, pesticides, fungicides, antibiotics and other prescription drugs.

But as long as you compost them...and they were composted on an organic farm, they all the sudden become organic.

I had great success sourcing FREE local grass fed Alpaca manure last season, and the woman was THRILLED that I wanted to fill my pickup bed. Craigslist Farm/Garden section, seach: manure
 
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