need help again! now with pictures. i am having a hard time deciding.

icebox7420

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FEEEED MEEEE - this is what you would hear every night if your plant could talk. Also apparently it is also missing some light.
Man, studies say that people should not be smoking weed till their 26 yo, thats bad for your character development. You better concentrate on studies and good job position. But let's leave this talk for your mom.

We could help you, but you need that money. Or of course you could go into construction company, ask for some sand(the one they mix with cement), go to your back yard, get some soil, sterilize it in the oven, also get some cat litter, find around some cow or horse manure, mix it in proper quantities and there you have your soil mix. Need food? go to nursery and buy some tomato food or rose food for few bucks. You can grow it, but you will need to give something for her as well... also moonlight is not a light. MJ gives you pleasure not only by smoking it, but also by growing it. Don't give up
People are amazing creatures, they could be absolutely broke, but once they know what they want, how much money do they need or what they really want to achieve, they are gonna find a way to do it. You're no exception, so go figure :D
hey mr / ms. simisimis, ( i don't know if you are a male or female, sorry). i am already 26 so i can smoke, but i cannot right now because of some real important situations. thank you for the suggestion of making a soil mix, now i can save a lot more.

there are cat litters here but it is on the top of our roof and i will be having a hard time getting it, i wish that the stray cats here will take their shit in our front garden so that i will not risk my life climbing up the top of our roof.

we have an oven but i can't use it to sterilize soil because my mom will get mad at me and tell me that soil is not an ingredient for baking cakes.

i am now planning to make a temporary grow light set up for my plants inside our house. i'll post pics as soon as i finished what i have done.
 

simisimis

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Hah, I'm Mr. I think I mistyped something here, man if you already took a knife and are preparing yourself for scrapping cat litter from roofs - STOP. What I meant is the white sand you give to cats to shit in. That can replace perlite which has good water draining specs, also keeps moist and does not affect water ph. Although I do not know which one is cheaper at your place. Especially if you do not grow a cat. this is what I meant by that. Well sterilizing is quite important I would say, but maybe you could take a risk. It depends on what kind of dirt is at your place. how the plants grow there, etc.. Get that light and ffor three plants at your current state I would say you need at least 100W.. Through out the grow you are going to need at a bare minimum 250W of cfls.
 

icebox7420

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Hah, I'm Mr. I think I mistyped something here, man if you already took a knife and are preparing yourself for scrapping cat litter from roofs - STOP. What I meant is the white sand you give to cats to shit in. That can replace perlite which has good water draining specs, also keeps moist and does not affect water ph. Although I do not know which one is cheaper at your place. Especially if you do not grow a cat. this is what I meant by that. Well sterilizing is quite important I would say, but maybe you could take a risk. It depends on what kind of dirt is at your place. how the plants grow there, etc.. Get that light and ffor three plants at your current state I would say you need at least 100W.. Through out the grow you are going to need at a bare minimum 250W of cfls.
mr.simisimisii

i am currently using like around 50-70 watts of CFLs 6500k for veg, i am planning to put another 20-25 watts of CFLs by tomorrow evening. ( i am planning to get some of the lights here at our house and just put it back whenever my plant needs to take their night rest).

i am going to put them on 20/6 light schedule where 14hours of light will be comming from sunlight and the other 6 hours will be put it in a temporary CFL grow set up here at our house.

is that alright?
 

Bakatare666

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Hah, I'm Mr. I think I mistyped something here, man if you already took a knife and are preparing yourself for scrapping cat litter from roofs - STOP. What I meant is the white sand you give to cats to shit in. That can replace perlite which has good water draining specs, also keeps moist and does not affect water ph. Although I do not know which one is cheaper at your place. Especially if you do not grow a cat. this is what I meant by that. Well sterilizing is quite important I would say, but maybe you could take a risk. It depends on what kind of dirt is at your place. how the plants grow there, etc.. Get that light and ffor three plants at your current state I would say you need at least 100W.. Through out the grow you are going to need at a bare minimum 250W of cfls.
"Grow a cat"........:lol:
 

Bakatare666

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mr.simisimisii

i am currently using like around 50-70 watts of CFLs 6500k for veg, i am planning to put another 20-25 watts of CFLs by tomorrow evening. ( i am planning to get some of the lights here at our house and just put it back whenever my plant needs to take their night rest).

i am going to put them on 20/6 light schedule where 14hours of light will be comming from sunlight and the other 6 hours will be put it in a temporary CFL grow set up here at our house.

is that alright?
Cram as much CFL in your space as you can control, and keep the lights CLOSE, but yes, the natural sun will benefit them!
Here's a pic of my current ones when they were young.

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Bakatare666

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FEEEED MEEEE - this is what you would hear every night if your plant could talk. Also apparently it is also missing some light.
Man, studies say that people should not be smoking weed till their 26 yo, thats bad for your character development. You better concentrate on studies and good job position. But let's leave this talk for your mom.

We could help you, but you need that money. Or of course you could go into construction company, ask for some sand(the one they mix with cement), go to your back yard, get some soil, sterilize it in the oven, also get some cat litter, find around some cow or horse manure, mix it in proper quantities and there you have your soil mix. Need food? go to nursery and buy some tomato food or rose food for few bucks. You can grow it, but you will need to give something for her as well... also moonlight is not a light. MJ gives you pleasure not only by smoking it, but also by growing it. Don't give up
People are amazing creatures, they could be absolutely broke, but once they know what they want, how much money do they need or what they really want to achieve, they are gonna find a way to do it. You're no exception, so go figure :D
Also, if you Google it, there are a few things around the house that can be used for ferts.
You can save things like egg shells, banana peels, vegetable clippings, potato peels, coffee grounds, make a compost pile, and in a few months, it can be your added to your soil for nutes for your next grow.
 

Bakatare666

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thanks for the advice mr.shivaskunk.

so i'll just wait for my plants to grow a couple of nodes?
Generally, you shouldn't have to worry about t=planting until your leaves are reaching the diameter of the container.
Do those pots have drainage holes?
To me it looks like your 4-8 pics are overwatered also.
 

icebox7420

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Cram as much CFL in your space as you can control, but yes, the natural sun will benefit them!
that is what i'm planning to do tomorrow anyways i just used my grandfather's chandelier, put a 26 watt and 20 watt and 2 x 8 watts of CFLs.

tomorrow is the day that i'll be removing the whole chandelier so that i remove the 2 x 8watt cfls and replace it with some other lights here at our house and put it inside my room and dispose my old grow closet.

( i can't wait any longer sorry).

i hope that our electricity bill will not be too much. my mom is already talking to me about it. and i am hoping that my grandfather will not look for it if ever he will be visiting our house.
 

Bakatare666

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that is what i'm planning to do tomorrow anyways i just used my grandfather's chandelier, put a 26 watt and 20 watt and 2 x 8 watts of CFLs.

tomorrow is the day that i'll be removing the whole chandelier so that i remove the 2 x 8watt cfls and replace it with some other lights here at our house and put it inside my room and dispose my old grow closet.

( i can't wait any longer sorry).

i hope that our electricity bill will not be too much. my mom is already talking to me about it. and i am hoping that my grandfather will not look for it if ever he will be visiting our house.
Google it, and you can show your mom that a CFL, left on ALL night, draws less energy than a TV or computer left on for several hours.
For example, my last grow, I used over 300w of CFL's, and my bill showed only about $6 increase per month.
 

icebox7420

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Generally, you shouldn't have to worry about t=planting until your leaves are reaching the diameter of the container.
Do those pots have drainage holes?
To me it looks like your 4-8 pics are overwatered also.

i'll just put it outside tomorrow so that the freakin sun will dry the soil of my babies.

yep they have holes.

the first plant which is the largest has around 6 holes and the other 2 has only one. ( they are like in a disposable containers that can be easily torned).
 

Bakatare666

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i'll just put it outside tomorrow so that the freakin sun will dry the soil of my babies.

yep they have holes.

the first plant which is the largest has around 6 holes and the other 2 has only one. ( they are like in a disposable containers that can be easily torned).
Take a sharp pencil or something and make more drainage holes in the bottom just to be safe.;-)
 

Bakatare666

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i'll try that, but i'm scared that i might damage the roots. wait i'll post pics of what it looks like at the bottom.
Judging by the size of foliage, and the way the soil looks drenched, I seriously doubt your roots are anywhere close to the bottom yet.
 

icebox7420

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well this is my grandfather's chandelier before:
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and now tadaang! advance sorry to my grandpa
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i don't know how will i poke it, maybe i need to let facebook poke my disposable containers. the 3rd plant is already resting, i got a feeling that it will die in a matter of time / day.

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Bakatare666

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well this is my grandfather's chandelier before:
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i don't know how will i poke it, maybe i need to let facebook poke my disposable containers. the 3rd plant is already resting, i got a feeling that it will die in a matter of time / day.

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Can you put a box or something under your pots and get them right up there next to the bulbs?
CFL light is only effective within a few inches, and more light emanates from the sides of the bulb than the end.
 

icebox7420

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Can you put a box or something under your pots and get them right up there next to the bulbs?
i cannot because of the chains and rings of the chandelier, but maybe tomorrow, i might remove them, but i still don't know how many rings will i remove.

only 46 mins left and my babies will be sleeping in the dark. :)
 

icebox7420

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thanks for the replies and for the likes it helped me out a lot, i'll be updating as soon as i have finished my grow set up. please let be female! im excited to wake up early and do my resume and some other stuffs for the sake of my babies!
 

Bakatare666

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We enjoy helping, but do us a favor, and don't go against your mom's wishes if she starts bitching about things, and keep up your studies too!;-)
You seem to be a responsible young man.:clap:
 

Jimdamick

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Remove all the rings and chains because all they do is get in the way and get those bulbs down as close as you can.
 
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