Autos worth it?

[BeastGrow]

Th!nk different you can get a quarter pound of dried weed per plant.. only takes 70 days from seed to harvest.

 

[EverythingsHazy]

Th!nk different you can get a quarter pound of dried weed per plant.. only takes 70 days from seed to harvest.

4 ounces?!?! Seriously. In what size pot? That's sick. Even if you only averaged 2 ounces per plant with a max of 4 that's insane! Would be awesome. Does anyone sell non feminized seeds of Think Different? I've only seen feminized seeds. Wonder how close you could get to the original is you crossed it with lowryder then crossed the f1 with another think different and did that a few timeseventually just crossing the f1's with each other and so on to stabilize a new strain. But that's only needed if they don't release reg seeds if it.

 

[dc4]

Think different has a record of 350g dried. It was in DWC and with led i think.

 

[dc4]

[video=youtube;_bIbGxFMZGo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bIbGxFMZGo[/video] This is the heaviest yielding auto in the market. AK48 x ruderalis (backcrossed as much as they could) I think this is the max that an auto can do.

 

[EverythingsHazy]

[video=youtube;_bIbGxFMZGo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bIbGxFMZGo[/video] This is the heaviest yielding auto in the market. AK48 x ruderalis (backcrossed as much as they could) I think this is the max that an auto can do.

Where are those seeds sold? Who has the super high yielding auto seeds that aren't feminized. Does ANYONE sell think different, auto mazar, or the auto you just mentioned? Non fem. If nobody sells them regular, could you just cross one with lowryder2 and then cross the f1 with another female td and them cross tha baby with another one. It wouldn't be backcrossing because you couldn't keep a td alive long enough.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

With regs:
27 plants 9 weeks + 2 weeks vegging.
14 grams per plant
34 grams per week

Auto:
27 plants in 8 weeks
14 grams per plant
47 grams per week

oh, you have another grow room dedicated to mothers and clones so you can harvest every 9 weeks? well let me use that extra grow room to grow more autoflowers.

regs:
27 plants 9 weeks
14 grams per plant
42 grams per week

auto:
54plants(2 rooms) in 8 weeks
14 grams per plant
95 grams per week.

as i just showed.. you could potentially double your yield with autos...

Show me someone hitting numbers like the ones I posted, you're just throwing out numbers for the sake of it.

2 sq ft.

270w total.

Your guy doing TD used an entire tent and 2 LED panels.

2oz a week.

Please, show me. You won't be able to of course, because it's impossible to do true high yield SOG style grows with autos. He kept a mom and clones with that 210w as well. There are many reasons this is impossible with autos. And I'm afraid he doesn't have to veg 2 weeks either and his strain could hypothetically be a 6 or 7 weeker (which doesn't exist for autoflowering plants).

PS: You're claiming TD is great and a heavy yielder, it takes 10 weeks minimum. Again, I grew out over 20 of them. Most of them (over 90%) weren't good quality either. They did yield better than La Diva and Afghan Kush Ryder fairly uniformly though.

 

[pabloesqobar]

I only grow outdoors on my balcony. I have limited space. But, I've grown both autos and photoperiod plants on the balcony. I enjoy putting out an auto every now and then - because it's fun to grow. I've never had big yields off of them. Like a previous poster, I will grow autos earlier in the season, and then do a photoperiod later in the season. Planting a photoperiod plant later in the season means less vegetative growth, and with some LST'ing, it can remain stealthy. I don't smoke as much as most folks on here, but I always have more than enough.

My autos have NEVER been as good as my photoperiod plants. Hands down, no comparison. Granted, I've only been doing this for 4 years, but that's enough to convince me. Regardless, I still like growing both.

Indoors is another matter. If I was limited in space and needed to keep my plants as small as autos, I would go the photoperiod route. Either 12/12 from seed, or veg for a bit, then flip to 12/12. The potency and strains are no match.

Here's a good journal from a fellow poster doing a 12/12 from seed. He had good results:

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/202836-nirvana-northern-lights-feminised-x4.html

 

[Greenleavez]

The only viable reason you gave to use autos is outdoors. The rest of your post is bullshit, hence we keep repeating ourselves.

You can grow regs under CFLs and floros just fine. In fact, you can do it better than you can autos because you can manage the height in a far far far s+uperior fashion given you are legitimately mono cropping, can top, can do so much more to the plants (or less if you don't want them to get as tall).

If you want a fantastic example, this guy pulls down 1-2oz (closer to 2) every week with 210w and 2 sq ft. It would be utterly impossible to do this with autos. And all his smoke is exactly what he likes because he had the option to go through and find and keep.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=69713&pp=15

I guess what I'm saying is I detest bullshit and there's a fair bit being spewed in this thread. Flipping lights to 12/12 isn't complicated.

Cloning isn't hard either. Some think it is, but they need to understand that if they can keep the air fresh, keep temps at around 80 and humidity above 90 they are going to have near 100% success and it's really really really low effort. No hormones or other crap required. Advisable to dip cuttings into an H2O2 solution to keep em clean. Cleanliness is next to Godliness.

Sorry but i believe 20 hours of light vs 12 hours of light is going to yield more. I have seen a few grows actually that had very nice yields with T5's doing such. And once again, this is a benefits for STEALTH grows. Many people only want a small grow and not extra mothers and clones.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

Sorry but i believe 20 hours of light vs 12 hours of light is going to yield more. I have seen a few grows actually that had very nice yields with T5's doing such. And once again, this is a benefits for STEALTH grows. Many people only want a small grow and not extra mothers and clones.

2 sq ft with much smaller plants than autos isn't stealthy enough for you?

 

[tekdc911]

Where are those seeds sold? Who has the super high yielding auto seeds that aren't feminized. Does ANYONE sell think different, auto mazar, or the auto you just mentioned? Non fem. If nobody sells them regular, could you just cross one with lowryder2 and then cross the f1 with another female td and them cross tha baby with another one. It wouldn't be backcrossing because you couldn't keep a td alive long enough.

males are sloppy just force a herm and get more fem seeds dutch passion is the breeder
just force a herm cross it with whatever
herm plant seeds are copies of itself and female
cross is a cross and also female
original genetics are preserved
this is where the back crossing comes into play
since original genetics are still just that you could force another herm from this batch and cross it with your cross
the herm trait was forced so there is no worry of it being passed on

 

[tekdc911]

Show me someone hitting numbers like the ones I posted, you're just throwing out numbers for the sake of it.

2 sq ft.

270w total.

Your guy doing TD used an entire tent and 2 LED panels.

2oz a week.

Please, show me. You won't be able to of course, because it's impossible to do true high yield SOG style grows with autos. He kept a mom and clones with that 210w as well. There are many reasons this is impossible with autos. And I'm afraid he doesn't have to veg 2 weeks either and his strain could hypothetically be a 6 or 7 weeker (which doesn't exist for autoflowering plants).

PS: You're claiming TD is great and a heavy yielder, it takes 10 weeks minimum. Again, I grew out over 20 of them. Most of them (over 90%) weren't good quality either. They did yield better than La Diva and Afghan Kush Ryder fairly uniformly though.

just to stir the pot lol https://www.rollitup.org/auto-flowering-strains/553701-1250-watt-4x4-hydro-scrog.html

if you havnt seen this grow then your in for a treat dont know the guy just read the thread
if its been posted already or you have seen it i am truly sorry

this is just proof auto's will rule the world mwahahahaha


he pulls over a pound easily
so you figure if you could fit just 3 harvests like that a year then you would be pulling a oz a week
double that and there is the results you where asking to see



and beastgrow was being very modest with the 14gram weight seeing how i can pull around a oz with just cfl's from a non super strain auto

and yes auto pheno's are unstable but after youve grown enough out of the same strain you know how the pheno's you like grow and act then you catch it early force a herm and you have more fem seeds of that pheno then you have a consistent grow

 

[tekdc911]

auto's have many nice qualities high cbd factor, fast , are pest and mold resist for the most part , variety ,
best reasons i can think of is the fast easy medicine they are very low maintenance which is great for people who are sick and not just recreational growers
it keeps you off the streets ,it keeps money out of the cartel/druglords pockets seeing how even the most inexperienced grower can grow some of these strains

 

[OGEvilgenius]

just to stir the pot lol https://www.rollitup.org/auto-flowering-strains/553701-1250-watt-4x4-hydro-scrog.html

if you havnt seen this grow then your in for a treat dont know the guy just read the thread
if its been posted already or you have seen it i am truly sorry

this is just proof auto's will rule the world mwahahahaha


he pulls over a pound easily
so you figure if you could fit just 3 harvests like that a year then you would be pulling a oz a week
double that and there is the results you where asking to see



and beastgrow was being very modest with the 14gram weight seeing how i can pull around a oz with just cfl's from a non super strain auto

and yes auto pheno's are unstable but after youve grown enough out of the same strain you know how the pheno's you like grow and act then you catch it early force a herm and you have more fem seeds of that pheno then you have a consistent grow

I've seen his grow. He pulled down a whopping 1.5lbs from 1200w in 3 mos of what appears to be near identical to the mediocre bud I grew (some of the phenos he had were obviously similar to mine).

Meanwhile I just linked you a guy pulling down a lb every 2 months using 270w.

Anyway I'm done. You auto lovers are emotional windbags.

 

[Comacus]

Wow 22% is higher than most high grade or at least equal. Plus the CBD in autos is an awesome quality. I wasn't aware of that until you mentioned it. Do any if you know where regular NONFeminized seeds of Afghan Kush Ryder or Think Different auto are sold? If not would breeding one fem of either to a male loweyder2 and then the f1 to another akr or td and then a male from that to a third akr or td (obv if pick only one akr OR td the entire time) would work? How would the genetic percentage be since they aren't backcrossing to clones but crossing to the same strain every time you get a new f1. Like when would you be comfortable crossing the f1 with each other to make f2-7 for a stable strain almost identical to afghan kush Ryder or think different.

For Non Feminized Autos check out Black Creek Gardens, Mdanzig, and Freedom of Seeds at the Attitude.

 

[Greenleavez]

I've seen his grow. He pulled down a whopping 1.5lbs from 1200w in 3 mos of what appears to be near identical to the mediocre bud I grew (some of the phenos he had were obviously similar to mine).

Meanwhile I just linked you a guy pulling down a lb every 2 months using 270w.

Anyway I'm done. You auto lovers are emotional windbags.

Are you angry sir? You sound enraged . In the grow you linked- https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=69713&pp=15 The reason I ask is Bcuz I do it's 210 watts of CFL's over 27 clones in 2 sq. ft.

The girlz grow in a 16 oz soda bottle filled with my own soil mix...they finish in 9 weeks and Avg. 7- 21 Grams dried per plant and I harvest 3 a week...SOG Perpetual Harvest this is a pic of one of my girlz.

3 plants a week at 21 grams = a max of 63 grams or 2.25 ounces. Surely not every plant is going to be 21 grams, so we will take the average of 14 grams x 3= 42 grams or 1.5 ounces. 1.5 ounces x 4 (weeks)= 6 ounces a month, not 1 pound.

Secondly, the fact is that growing cannabis is still illegal in many places. Growing 27 clones plus mothers is = to 27+ plants. 27 plants compared to growing a few instead. I would much rather only grow a few, and i am sure many others would agree.

I've grown 4+ ounces from around 150 watts of light, and 4 plants, so i am sure doing autos with more plants and more light (20 hours of light) would be even greater yields, in a perpetual grow... maybe 8 plants or so. Plus, i'd much rather use extra space for the plants, not a mother/clone room.

That is still a cool method, don't get me wrong. I just don't think its right to think there is only 1 way to grow, when there are many.

By the way nobody was really emotional here, besides your derogatory post. In case you forgot this is the autoflower section. If you don't like something its generally common knowledge to avoid it. Continually bashing something you personally don't like is called something like.....hating.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

You're not even reading what I've written I doubt you've read much of anything I've posted because you've emotionally invested yourself into an inferior product and for no reason are trying to defend against every factual point I have made.

You're putting words in my mouth too.

You're free to your inferior product with lower yields and higher costs. Forgive me for trying to help.

 

[CCCmints]

so what makes a super auto 'super'?

also, are autos subject to problems from light leaks?

 

[BeastGrow]

You're not even reading what I've written I doubt you've read much of anything I've posted because you've emotionally invested yourself into an inferior product and for no reason are trying to defend against every factual point I have made.

You're putting words in my mouth too.

You're free to your inferior product with lower yields and higher costs. Forgive me for trying to help.

Its only inferior because you suck at growing autos

 

[Greenleavez]

Are you angry sir? You sound enraged . In the grow you linked- https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=69713&pp=15 The reason I ask is Bcuz I do it's 210 watts of CFL's over 27 clones in 2 sq. ft.

The girlz grow in a 16 oz soda bottle filled with my own soil mix...they finish in 9 weeks and Avg. 7- 21 Grams dried per plant and I harvest 3 a week...SOG Perpetual Harvest this is a pic of one of my girlz.

3 plants a week at 21 grams = a max of 63 grams or 2.25 ounces. Surely not every plant is going to be 21 grams, so we will take the average of 14 grams x 3= 42 grams or 1.5 ounces. 1.5 ounces x 4 (weeks)= 6 ounces a month, not 1 pound.

Secondly, the fact is that growing cannabis is still illegal in many places. Growing 27 clones plus mothers is = to 27+ plants. 27 plants compared to growing a few instead. I would much rather only grow a few, and i am sure many others would agree.

I've grown 4+ ounces from around 150 watts of light, and 4 plants, so i am sure doing autos with more plants and more light (20 hours of light) would be even greater yields, in a perpetual grow... maybe 8 plants or so. Plus, i'd much rather use extra space for the plants, not a mother/clone room.

That is still a cool method, don't get me wrong. I just don't think its right to think there is only 1 way to grow, when there are many.

By the way nobody was really emotional here, besides your derogatory post. In case you forgot this is the autoflower section. If you don't like something its generally common knowledge to avoid it. Continually bashing something you personally don't like is called something like.....hating.

You're not even reading what I've written I doubt you've read much of anything I've posted because you've emotionally invested yourself into an inferior product and for no reason are trying to defend against every factual point I have made.

You're putting words in my mouth too.

You're free to your inferior product with lower yields and higher costs. Forgive me for trying to help.

1. OH really? Is that what i am doing? Please point out what words i put into your mouth? It seems to me the only one labeling others is YOU by saying how people who enjoy autoflowering plants are emotional windbags, as you just continued to repeat. You are telling us we should not grow autos and we should agree with you, or we are wrong, but then it's wrong to defend ourselves? lol...

2. What factual points are you referring to exactly? You claimed that the link you posted was = to 1 pound a month which is clearly bullshit. It is 6-8 ounces a month not one pound. How exactly is that factual? I read every single response in this thread thoroughly in case you didn't feel like reading everything i just posted. Clearly, i did not ignore your post, the way you appear to be ignoring mine.

3. The difference between you and me is that i have an open mind, and just because i like autoflowers , it doesn't mean i won't grow regular strains too.

Being an asshole to people isn't helping.

Once again, many people enjoy autoflowers so if you do not that is perfectly fine. If they are growing "inferior product", surely it should not matter to you because you are growing the top notch stuff right.

Whether there are other better ways to grow or not, some people want to grow autos!

If autos are so terrible maybe you should contact the admin of this site to remove the autoflowering section.

 

[Greenleavez]

Seriously, there are many auto strains that are good you just need to do some research. http://reviews.nuggetry.com/buds/afghan-kush-ryder-from-homegrow-atticblaster

Idk about you but that looks top quality to me.

High THC, high CBD

22%/1.5% afghan kush ryder