BHO with Vacuum oil/wax tutorial

650baquet

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also, 650, as weve both learned. you cant bend/press too hard on those blades or they snap, thats never fun. ive been there, done that.. hasnt happened in a long time. just cant press too hard, takes practice.. if the oil is getting that tough, heat it up just a tiny tiny bit. even a hair dryer for 5 seconds works TONS.

15% loss is a lot. I imagine I am seeing somewhere near there too. I had a ton of shit in my filter. ran 30 grams and 2 cans of ronson butane. after winterizing I estimate around 4 gram.. usually get 7 or so.
Good, glad i'm not the only one lol i felt a bit dumb, maybe i'll be trying a putty knife/scraper. If winterizing didn't make it completely smooth i wouldn't be bothering with it, but i'm going to be doing this for a long ass time so gotta get the best in my lungs when i can.
 

greenghost420

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that was a fucking bitch! i only ran a small amount making it harder to collect the oil from the paper,but sticking it together and pulling it apart worked! i had to hold it between my hands and pull it while it was soft. im gonna have to winterize next time, i couldnt find a suitable everclear substitute before today. ethyl alcohol sounds good tho...
 

vacpurge

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my first batch of winterized oil ran out, and I tried smoking normal BHO... it was tough. it killed my lungs. I could just feel the damage I was doing, couldnt wait to make winterized oil.

now im onto the 2nd batch of winterized oil and I fuckin love it. big hoots, still tasty. still get super stoned, and no burn in the chest!! a little bit from the fact that youre smoking. but no infamous oil burn for 20 mins and cant inhale either.

glad you tried it out 650. youre doing yourself a major favor.

you dont realize what you got until its gone. lungs arent something to cheap out on!!! I keep saying it.
 

650baquet

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my first batch of winterized oil ran out, and I tried smoking normal BHO... it was tough. it killed my lungs. I could just feel the damage I was doing, couldnt wait to make winterized oil.

now im onto the 2nd batch of winterized oil and I fuckin love it. big hoots, still tasty. still get super stoned, and no burn in the chest!! a little bit from the fact that youre smoking. but no infamous oil burn for 20 mins and cant inhale either.

glad you tried it out 650. youre doing yourself a major favor.

you dont realize what you got until its gone. lungs arent something to cheap out on!!! I keep saying it.
Ya my girlfriend is fine with just herb right now but i really can't afford to support both of us on concentrate only. I can just recently support us with herb and i quickly moved on to BHO, now winterizing.
Can't wait until i have like 8 different strains goin so i never get bored...had way to much freakin LCOG lately and couldn't even get ahold of any buddies today to see if they wanted to do a trade
 

vacpurge

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this is like a rock hard, dried up sponge. kinda cool.














this is whats going into the chamber. quite a lot of water in the above oil, even though some of you thought it was primo shit by looking at the pictures ;)
 

Fadedawg

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this is like a rock hard, dried up sponge. kinda cool.

this is whats going into the chamber. quite a lot of water in the above oil, even though some of you thought it was primo shit by looking at the pictures ;)
Good point, the test of the pudding isn't its looks!
 

vacpurge

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2nd rinse. 30 grams of material. 2 cans.

came back next day, ran 1 more can through it. the very very very last few drops that came out after 3 cans in 30 grams were STILL sticky... tested on all 4 fingers at 4 seperate times.. had 4 sticky fingers.

the rest is here. enjoy :)

ps: yes I will be trying this again on a larger batch. with 2 different water temps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07zXsaiAe14&feature=youtu.be
 

650baquet

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So i was just vaping some of that winterized LCOG BHO using my thermovape concentrate attachment, first couple puffs were large and super tasty...i was like wow i'm vaping my concentrate from now on, then the third and following hits actually were quite nasty. Was like plastic, i have heard this before but this was like wow wtf did i even winterize it at all or does that even matter in this situation? I was hackin pretty hard for a while as it was a big puff of it too.
 

Guzias1

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2nd rinse. 30 grams of material. 2 cans.

came back next day, ran 1 more can through it. the very very very last few drops that came out after 3 cans in 30 grams were STILL sticky... tested on all 4 fingers at 4 seperate times.. had 4 sticky fingers.

the rest is here. enjoy :)

ps: yes I will be trying this again on a larger batch. with 2 different water temps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07zXsaiAe14&feature=youtu.be
can you explain what is going on in this video?
 

650baquet

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Just harvested some LCOG, left one branch up to mature some more for the hell of it lol, see how the high changes over another wk.
I actual took pics on my camera but i wont be uploading them to the computer til tomorrow. I'm impressed with the crop for being mainly under a 150w hps and a Kessil H150 magenta, it got some side lighting from my 400w hps but not much. Don't want to over estimate so i'll say around 4oz. It was in an 8Liter pot and finished at 5.5ft tall :) damn stretchy ass plant. I don't always keep exact track of time but i believe she was around 9wks flower currently. So i'm letting the rest go to 10 wks. I bumped into my upcoming smaller TW and it's about 5wks flower, smelt so good i had to pause and enjoy to moment.
 

greenghost420

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some og kush oil i couldnt wait to winterize. shits still really good, i just make the dabs smaller to reduce harshness. works great!
 

vacpurge

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haha thought it was pretty obvious... poured butane into water!!! that was a 2nd rinse, just 1 can so I was fooling around. pretty good for 1 can 2nd rinse though.

butane made water cold, it made ice chunks, as I was showing in the sink.

poured hot water into my SS dish to melt the ice.

poured all the water out and left oil in the dish.

thats where I started to play. it made this amazing sponge stuff. , and its very fragile, dry, and crumbly. its like dust. pretty cool. lots of moisture in it though, really crackles on the nail.

I got it in the vac chamber right now though. 12 hours so far in at full vacuum.
 

Fadedawg

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So i was just vaping some of that winterized LCOG BHO using my thermovape concentrate attachment, first couple puffs were large and super tasty...i was like wow i'm vaping my concentrate from now on, then the third and following hits actually were quite nasty. Was like plastic, i have heard this before but this was like wow wtf did i even winterize it at all or does that even matter in this situation? I was hackin pretty hard for a while as it was a big puff of it too.
The problem with any vaporizer that heats a pool of oil with a hot element, is that the lighter constituets boil off first, leaving the heavier components. Not to forget that cannabinoids are di and tri terpene phenols and taste like phenolic plastic in high concentration. It is the lighter mono and sesqui terpenes that give it the nice floral flavors.
 

Guzias1

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being mainly under a 150w hps and a Kessil H150 magenta, it got some side lighting from my 400w hps but not much. Don't want to over estimate so i'll say around 4oz.

150w hps? how much mostly that light? 4 zips off one of those lights sounds like you doing things really good!
 

Guzias1

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i just make the dabs smaller to reduce harshness. works great!
yupppppppppppppppppppppppppp, my dabs be under .02 +- .01 .. i like to hold my hash hits for as longggggggggg as possible, soo many people waste the smoke, blehh, i guess that is good for the suppliers :p
 

650baquet

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One more hour at work...had to hope on and see what's goin on real quick. I'll draw a pic on paint to show how much of the 400 was hitting the LCOG.
 

Guzias1

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can we spray our butane right into a pyrex filled with everclear? then directly strain that onto final dish/mirror?

ethanol has a damn high boiling point, my everclear arrives within a few days. i wish i wasnt so new to this :[

vacpurge.. howd that water idea come out? were you able to remove all that moisture?
 

650baquet

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can we spray our butane right into a pyrex filled with everclear? then directly strain that onto final dish/mirror?

ethanol has a damn high boiling point, my everclear arrives within a few days. i wish i wasnt so new to this :[

vacpurge.. howd that water idea come out? were you able to remove all that moisture?
I don't know about spraying directly into everclear, you wouldn't want to immediately strain onto dish/mirror though because you've skipped the actual winterizing process by freezing for 24-48hrs first...but after that you could strain through coffee filters directly into a dish.

Hey man i'm new to it as well, no matter if you evap in a dish or on a mirror just vacuum it to ensure better purge of the Everclear and you're going to be damn satisfied i'm sure. I barely have to add any heat at all when i drop it onto a mirror to evap :) i just sat there high jammin to music while having fun slowly dropping the filtered everclear/oil solution onto the mirror. Takes a long time to evap when in a thick pool so heating def speeds it up.

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Quick crappy pic of how much light from the 400W might have been helping the LCOG. Shaded area is where the main canopy of nugs were at final height. The 400w would have been provided more help during the first stages of flower due to the low height but the i slide the LCOG further over to the left and started tying up branches. I can tell that nugs closest to the 400w were slightly larger than the nugs against the wall on the left side of the 150w. Also the nugs closest to the Kessil LED(which i didn't draw but imagine it being between you and the LCOG as you look at the paper) were darker and more dense but not necessarily heavier. I can't wait to get a final weight on the yield.
 
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