Hey hemlock man, spider mite attack eh. Second to thrips they're the worst I've dealt with. Little swines.
Knowing your setup i'd say critical mass will be a tidy haulyou taste tested any yet? In curious about the lemon og, any more info? Seed co?
Keep on top n you'll beat the mites. Its just breaking the cycle.
Good morning my Brother from another Mother..LOL
The Lemon OG was DNA seed bank. really viney, Gets ya hi as heaven but a pain in the ass to grow very viney and big.
Your Dog 5 looks great hope ya got a cut of that one.
Yes I did test the critical and LOVE IT not only as a stoner but in the garden she is a DREAM, seems everyday she gains ground. great structure.
Back to the shop to fight the spider mites.
A big thanks to Del for the great info.
Off to Palm springs sunday with the young Mr Jacklin for the Canadian Golf tour qualifying school. 4 days forty cards available
Also do I remember you running some doggie nuts???
I look at them last night why so expensive???
Dropped the purple SS x 2 toke last night!!!!!
Breeders Boutique Grow! Psycho Killer and UK clone only crosses SCROG
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Don Gin and Ton
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hahah don't get me wrong man, it pays it's way for sure. and a whole lot more. even if i made nothing from it i'd do it for the love of it. i wish I had another room with a tent for flowers and veg. i'd fuck morrisons shitty out of season not ripe before it's rotten GM crap in a heartbeat. i've actually been thinking of a sideline in new crosses of orchids, they are a pain to propagate from seed tho i've read.lol the way i work it it dont cost me a penny m8 every grow/run i do pays for itself and i reap the rewards for my hard work ( it pays its own way im just charging for space rental an maintanence ) community spirit is alive and kicking m8 just follow feeling
not too shabby eh. but by my reckoning that do's at 12 weeks on friday. got some feedback on the dog#3 last night from an old housemate, 'that's how it should be done' lol.
hey hem dawg, yeah keep at those mites man once you break the cycle of the larvae they're on the back foot!
I've got a critical Jack herer in veg at th moment. going to put that in a 10L airpot when the time comes. I could do with a couple of good paydays between now and august.
palm springs eh. you get about a bit hem! great hobby in the sun you get your neck of the woods.
As for doggies nuts. lol hem i'm a bit daft at times but i'm not stupid enough to drop that much coin on pips. it was a user called kevin murphy, rip of scam artist apparently by all accounts. he spent a load on pips, i think he may have gifted amber trich's on or two i dunno. it's marketing bullshizzle my friend don't be duped.
purple Ss x 2 toke. that's going to have a resin profile off the chart, you watch!
no snips of pooch #5 at 12 weeks i cant keep her in the garden
DST
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12 weeks is a bit much, sounds like a Thelma leaner to me. Probably gonna be a super high headband rip from it...possibly.
And we like feedback like that!!!!
Don Gin and Ton
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that's what i thought, it looks very sour D or did now it's darkening like the headband leaner. smlls a lot sweeter but isn't as sticky as the #3 that one i literally had to pry the popcorn off the tray i'd quick dried it on 
i'm going to get th smelly cherry crossed pips out of the branch tonight. they will be fuckin killer. i can feel it in my bones.
i'm going to get th smelly cherry crossed pips out of the branch tonight. they will be fuckin killer. i can feel it in my bones.
Don Gin and Ton
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So i have n idea what the fuck i'm doing wrong but my clones are moulding before they're rooting. could be the general RH s high and so s the inside of the prop. i'm thinking i'll dump the water out the little ridges at the bottom and half close the vents for a day but i'll be taking more snips off the dog and others, going to make a new cloner tub with more holes in. might take a little longer to root than other methods but it worked for me so at this stage and after 2 unsuccessful runs in jiffies and looking like a third on the cards wit rockwool.
I'm lathed to buy a ready made aero mister one at 60 quid for a 12 site cloner ffs. i'll make one for under a tenner with 12 holes. back later with pics.
I'm lathed to buy a ready made aero mister one at 60 quid for a 12 site cloner ffs. i'll make one for under a tenner with 12 holes. back later with pics.
DST
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you got me stumped on that one...short of it still being infected with thrips or bugs, which may slow down the rooting and eventually the clone will run out of energy and die off.....not really sure to be honest mate. I got a bunch of clones that are taking a while at the moment, but I have been fighting these thrips so I put it down to that. Seems like I spend my whole life fighting bugs. Fukkin lettuce starts I bought at the garden centre are infected with aphides!!! ffs.
Don Gin and Ton
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I've dumped the water out the prop sprayed the roof and sat the cube tray back in without the sponge mat so it'll dry out a bit in there, let the vents half open, i'm away into toon shopping them i'll check them again. I'll be making a new bigger dwc cloner this afternoon and taking a load more.
watch my luck they'll all pull through and I'll have fuckin loads. hope so. but i'm usually never that lucky haha
I was thinking, it wasn't a new scalpel blade but it was't hacky either but who knows could have contaminated the clonex. it's doing my nut in, i've done a clone in a shot glass of the lemon pledge for now.
watch my luck they'll all pull through and I'll have fuckin loads. hope so. but i'm usually never that lucky haha
I was thinking, it wasn't a new scalpel blade but it was't hacky either but who knows could have contaminated the clonex. it's doing my nut in, i've done a clone in a shot glass of the lemon pledge for now.
Don Gin and Ton
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delvite
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what kind of mold m8 can you get a pic up? certain methods of soaking in additives n such create a fine mold like micro system before forming what we would call roots
Don Gin and Ton
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Its not so much mould just soaked to the point they're stuck together. I'm in to minds to transplant into the new dwc or just take fresh, they'll be stressed now.
Hey Don i thought this might help.??
[h=2]DWC Root Slime Cure aka How to Breed Beneficial Microbes[/h]
[h=2]DWC Root Slime Cure aka How to Breed Beneficial Microbes[/h]
When a clear snot forms on roots in a DWC, and the normal course of treatment for root disease doesn't work, you probably have something called brown slime algae, which actually isn't algae at all, but a cyanobacteria. It loves oxygen and doesn't need light to grow. It doesn't care if your res is chilled or not. Safe levels of H202 slows it a bit but doesn't cure it. It can show up for DWC growers for no apparent reason even after years of successful grows. Once it shows up it's often a nightmare to get rid of. It WILL eventually spread to other DWC tubs, although it almost never gains a foothold on older well developed healthy plants/roots.
Several root conditions will cause a slimy build up; doesn't mean you have the brown slime. Common root disease is almost always caused by improper res conditions, and they improve greatly when those conditions are corrected. This isn't true of the slime. When to suspect brown slime algae is when you are doing everything right and still can't get rid of it. People who get this try the normal stuff... More bubbles in the water, cool res temps, and h202 treatments. The slime may appear to be gone at first, but comes back strong in as little as 12-36 hours. It starts out subtle like a clear coating of mucus on the roots with no odor. Plants often still appear healthy for a while, but all root production stops. In a very short time it will cover the entire root base and become thicker and sometimes turns yellow. Eventually it strangles the roots which causes pythium to set in, and at that point turns brown and finally has an odor.
The treatment is to clean up and sterilize the root base, and then populate the water with beneficial microbes. Simply running a continuous sterilizing agent such as SM-90, Zone, ect will almost certainly end with the slime as the winner. Some people have had luck running bleach or physan 20 continuously in the water, but most do not want there plants soaking in these particular chemicals. Making a microbe tea is cheap and easy, and IMO the proper way to fight this slime in a perpetual DWC garden.
Clean up the root base as well as possible. Best thing to do, if you can, is hold the plant over the sink and use the sprayer to vigorously rinse the roots, trying to get all the dead roots and gunk to slough off. It's also okay to give the dying roots a slight tug to see if they come off. Now let the roots soak in a mixture of whatever sterilizing agent you have. Physan 20 works great. This is a good time to sterilize any equipment and give the res a good scrub. After a few hours, no more than 12, of soaking in the solution rinse the roots really really well again, prepare a fresh res, and inoculate the res with beneficial microbes. Wait another 12 hours before adding nutes.
*** The smaller your roots, the less likely the are to survive a strong h202 treatment. In my experience using h202 will increase your recovery time.
Once the slime is gone be sure to practice proper res maintenance, which includes keeping any type of organic material out of the res. Trying to sterilize the res water is often a losing battle. In fact, since most hydro sterilizers fail to kill this stuff, when you sterilize the water you are removing competing microbes and opening the field to slime. There are people who use RO filters and then run their water through a UV sterilizer and still end up with the slime. The answer always seems to be beneficial microbes.
Below is my previous introduction to preparing and applying a microbe tea.
In DWC the roots sit in water constantly putting them at huge risk for disease. Some people have great luck using nothing at all. Others find sterilizing products keep their roots white, but a few of us have found that even with proper res maintenance and doing everything right, we still get a slimy build up on the roots. This is when a microbe tea can really make a difference by robbing the slime of housing, food, and actually attacking it.
By making a microbe tea with a diverse selection of organisms you will have a super tonic for you res that will ward off nasty gunk and build up while at the same time keeping your roots stimulated and growing. Best of all it can be made for just pennies per batch.
Ok so we wont be starting from scratch. You have to buy a few products. But instead of using the products directly in the res, you will be breeding them in a tea. This way, you can use a fraction of the regular dose and make your products last much longer. Plus, you will end up with a freshly active tea that is more diverse than anything you can buy on the market.
Aquashield ($12) The product composition consists of: Bacillus subtilis, Paenibacillus polymxa, Bacillus circulans, and Bacillus amyloliquefaciens. This gives you a base population of beneficial bacteria. (Aquashield can be replaced by any inoculation that contains bacillus bacteria.)
ZHO Powder ($10) The product composition consists of: Glomus intradices, Glomus aggregatum, Glomus etunicatum, Glomus mosseae, Trichoderma harzianum, and Trichoderma koningii. This gives you a base populartion of beneficial fungi. (ZHO can be replaced by any inoculation that contains myco fungi)
Ancient Forest ($14) - Soil amendment provides a high diversity of microorganisms, including more than 35,000 species of bacteria and over 5,000 species of fungi. (AF can be replaced by any earth worm casting)
EDIT* Mycogrow soluble is the cheapest and most diverse inoculant we have found. It can replace everything here except the ancient forest.
The recipe is really simple. Start with non-chlorinated water. I make 2 gallons at a time, but you can easily adjust the additives for whatever amount you wish to make. Now put the water into a bucket and throw in a couple air stones. The more air the better. You want the water to be almost turbulent from the bubbles. Now, add 15-30ml of aquashield and about 1/4-1/2 scoop of the ZHO powder. You will be breeding these into the billions so it doesn't really matter how much you start with, just don't overdo it. Now take an old sock or pantyhose and fill it with about 2 handfuls of EWC or Ancient Forest. Tie off the sock and place it in the water above an air stone, or better yet, feed an air stone down into the sock itself. If you want, you can just throw the EWC directly into the water and strain it out later with cheesecloth or even an aquarium net. Next, add about a tablespoon of molasses to wake up the microbes and give them something to eat. We will only be feeding the microbes in this tea; never add food for the microbes to the res itself. It's okay if the bennies in the res starve. You will be replacing them every few days. Now let the tea bubble at room tempeture for 48 hours. It can be used after 24, but will be more active and diverse at 48. If you use EWC you will probably notice a foam eventually, this is normal. After 48 hours you can store the tea in the fridge where it will stay fresh for about 10 days. Once it starts to go bad it will develop an odor. If you ever detect an odor from your tea, throw it out and make a new batch. Fresh tea can have a range of smells from earthy to mossy to shroomy. Bad tea smells like gym socks, fecal matter, or decay.
Initially, add about 1 cup to your res for every gallon of water, and then add 1 cup total every 3 days after. If you can, pour a little over the base of the stalk to inoculate the root crown. Your water might get a little cloudy but your roots will stay white and stimulated. When you use tea and practice proper res maintenance you can feel confident your roots will be healthy. By multiplying the microbes this way your products should last a great deal longer. Once you have eradicated slime and simply want protection from future outbreaks, adjust the tea dosage to 1 cup per 10 gallons about once per week.
If you are interested in why the tea works, or what products you may use for substitution, continue reading the rest of the thread. It is a journey I took with others to learn a great more about the tea. If you want to see how I use this tea in a cloner, jump to here.
***In an attempt to address frequent issues which bloat the thread
You can substitute just about any product you want. Any EWC will give you a good base of microbes. Any product or combo of products which contain mycos, bacillus, and trichoderma will do the trick. Don't worry about matching my exact ingredients. The exception is AN microbe products. Stay away from AN microbe products!
If you notice a dark sort of slime form after you treat with tea, stay the course. As long as you see new shoots growing you are on your way to recovery. The after-slime is harmless and will not expand or stall roots. New root tips are what you want to see.
Do not use tea with h202, sm-90, Zone or any type of sterilizing product. Do not filter tea beyond 400 microns.
If you have slime attacking plants with very small roots, adding housing to your res like a lava rock or koi pond mat will make a big difference. Place the housing in your tea brew for the duration and then move it to your res.
No one has reported sprayers clogging from using regular tea. But, if you are concerned you can also try aquashield by itself without brewing. High pressure nozzles will kill most microbes, medium pressure and simple sprayers are fine.
Take care of impropoer res conditions FIRST. Even the tea will not save you from disease if you do not have enough oxygen or proper temperatures. Res water should be around 75f with bennies. Air pump should be at least 1wt per gallon. Light proof your buckets!
If this solution works for you please post in the thread and tell us your story.
I'm happy to answer questions in the thread. You will get a faster reply here than messaging me. Remember, all advice I give is intended for a synthetic DWC grow.
Some FAQ's
Can I run a perpetual batch of tea?
No. The key to fighting slime is a diverse microbe population. No matter what you do to your brew, diversity will peak and begin to decline around the 48 hour mark.
Can I feed the bennies in my res instead of letting them die and replacing them?
No, you would be feeding the slime as well. Some bennies will live on in your roots, most will die. It is simple to replace them which we do every three days while fighting slime, and about once a week after the slime is gone.
Will the chlorine/chloramine in my tap water kill off my bennies?
It is best to use pure water to brew the tea, however adding tap water directly to your buckets in small amounts to top off will not kill enough bennies to matter. I add as much as a gallon of un-aged tap water to my 5 gallon res with no ill effects. If you are worried, simply add a little tea a few hours after watering.
Can I add too much tea?
As long as your tea is brewed properly it is really hard to add too much.
I added tea, maintain proper res conditions, and still have slime!
First be sure you are not simply seeing after-slime. (see above) If it is aggressive slime, then you are probably adding something organic directly to the res. Check each and every thing you put in your mix, and be sure foliar sprays do not drip into the res. Incorporate some type of housing into your res, such as lava rocks.
You are not teaching us how to breed microbes, only multiply them.
Correct.
Several root conditions will cause a slimy build up; doesn't mean you have the brown slime. Common root disease is almost always caused by improper res conditions, and they improve greatly when those conditions are corrected. This isn't true of the slime. When to suspect brown slime algae is when you are doing everything right and still can't get rid of it. People who get this try the normal stuff... More bubbles in the water, cool res temps, and h202 treatments. The slime may appear to be gone at first, but comes back strong in as little as 12-36 hours. It starts out subtle like a clear coating of mucus on the roots with no odor. Plants often still appear healthy for a while, but all root production stops. In a very short time it will cover the entire root base and become thicker and sometimes turns yellow. Eventually it strangles the roots which causes pythium to set in, and at that point turns brown and finally has an odor.
The treatment is to clean up and sterilize the root base, and then populate the water with beneficial microbes. Simply running a continuous sterilizing agent such as SM-90, Zone, ect will almost certainly end with the slime as the winner. Some people have had luck running bleach or physan 20 continuously in the water, but most do not want there plants soaking in these particular chemicals. Making a microbe tea is cheap and easy, and IMO the proper way to fight this slime in a perpetual DWC garden.
Clean up the root base as well as possible. Best thing to do, if you can, is hold the plant over the sink and use the sprayer to vigorously rinse the roots, trying to get all the dead roots and gunk to slough off. It's also okay to give the dying roots a slight tug to see if they come off. Now let the roots soak in a mixture of whatever sterilizing agent you have. Physan 20 works great. This is a good time to sterilize any equipment and give the res a good scrub. After a few hours, no more than 12, of soaking in the solution rinse the roots really really well again, prepare a fresh res, and inoculate the res with beneficial microbes. Wait another 12 hours before adding nutes.
*** The smaller your roots, the less likely the are to survive a strong h202 treatment. In my experience using h202 will increase your recovery time.
Once the slime is gone be sure to practice proper res maintenance, which includes keeping any type of organic material out of the res. Trying to sterilize the res water is often a losing battle. In fact, since most hydro sterilizers fail to kill this stuff, when you sterilize the water you are removing competing microbes and opening the field to slime. There are people who use RO filters and then run their water through a UV sterilizer and still end up with the slime. The answer always seems to be beneficial microbes.
Below is my previous introduction to preparing and applying a microbe tea.
In DWC the roots sit in water constantly putting them at huge risk for disease. Some people have great luck using nothing at all. Others find sterilizing products keep their roots white, but a few of us have found that even with proper res maintenance and doing everything right, we still get a slimy build up on the roots. This is when a microbe tea can really make a difference by robbing the slime of housing, food, and actually attacking it.
By making a microbe tea with a diverse selection of organisms you will have a super tonic for you res that will ward off nasty gunk and build up while at the same time keeping your roots stimulated and growing. Best of all it can be made for just pennies per batch.
Ok so we wont be starting from scratch. You have to buy a few products. But instead of using the products directly in the res, you will be breeding them in a tea. This way, you can use a fraction of the regular dose and make your products last much longer. Plus, you will end up with a freshly active tea that is more diverse than anything you can buy on the market.
Aquashield ($12) The product composition consists of: Bacillus subtilis, Paenibacillus polymxa, Bacillus circulans, and Bacillus amyloliquefaciens. This gives you a base population of beneficial bacteria. (Aquashield can be replaced by any inoculation that contains bacillus bacteria.)
ZHO Powder ($10) The product composition consists of: Glomus intradices, Glomus aggregatum, Glomus etunicatum, Glomus mosseae, Trichoderma harzianum, and Trichoderma koningii. This gives you a base populartion of beneficial fungi. (ZHO can be replaced by any inoculation that contains myco fungi)
Ancient Forest ($14) - Soil amendment provides a high diversity of microorganisms, including more than 35,000 species of bacteria and over 5,000 species of fungi. (AF can be replaced by any earth worm casting)
EDIT* Mycogrow soluble is the cheapest and most diverse inoculant we have found. It can replace everything here except the ancient forest.
The recipe is really simple. Start with non-chlorinated water. I make 2 gallons at a time, but you can easily adjust the additives for whatever amount you wish to make. Now put the water into a bucket and throw in a couple air stones. The more air the better. You want the water to be almost turbulent from the bubbles. Now, add 15-30ml of aquashield and about 1/4-1/2 scoop of the ZHO powder. You will be breeding these into the billions so it doesn't really matter how much you start with, just don't overdo it. Now take an old sock or pantyhose and fill it with about 2 handfuls of EWC or Ancient Forest. Tie off the sock and place it in the water above an air stone, or better yet, feed an air stone down into the sock itself. If you want, you can just throw the EWC directly into the water and strain it out later with cheesecloth or even an aquarium net. Next, add about a tablespoon of molasses to wake up the microbes and give them something to eat. We will only be feeding the microbes in this tea; never add food for the microbes to the res itself. It's okay if the bennies in the res starve. You will be replacing them every few days. Now let the tea bubble at room tempeture for 48 hours. It can be used after 24, but will be more active and diverse at 48. If you use EWC you will probably notice a foam eventually, this is normal. After 48 hours you can store the tea in the fridge where it will stay fresh for about 10 days. Once it starts to go bad it will develop an odor. If you ever detect an odor from your tea, throw it out and make a new batch. Fresh tea can have a range of smells from earthy to mossy to shroomy. Bad tea smells like gym socks, fecal matter, or decay.
Initially, add about 1 cup to your res for every gallon of water, and then add 1 cup total every 3 days after. If you can, pour a little over the base of the stalk to inoculate the root crown. Your water might get a little cloudy but your roots will stay white and stimulated. When you use tea and practice proper res maintenance you can feel confident your roots will be healthy. By multiplying the microbes this way your products should last a great deal longer. Once you have eradicated slime and simply want protection from future outbreaks, adjust the tea dosage to 1 cup per 10 gallons about once per week.
If you are interested in why the tea works, or what products you may use for substitution, continue reading the rest of the thread. It is a journey I took with others to learn a great more about the tea. If you want to see how I use this tea in a cloner, jump to here.
***In an attempt to address frequent issues which bloat the thread
You can substitute just about any product you want. Any EWC will give you a good base of microbes. Any product or combo of products which contain mycos, bacillus, and trichoderma will do the trick. Don't worry about matching my exact ingredients. The exception is AN microbe products. Stay away from AN microbe products!
If you notice a dark sort of slime form after you treat with tea, stay the course. As long as you see new shoots growing you are on your way to recovery. The after-slime is harmless and will not expand or stall roots. New root tips are what you want to see.
Do not use tea with h202, sm-90, Zone or any type of sterilizing product. Do not filter tea beyond 400 microns.
If you have slime attacking plants with very small roots, adding housing to your res like a lava rock or koi pond mat will make a big difference. Place the housing in your tea brew for the duration and then move it to your res.
No one has reported sprayers clogging from using regular tea. But, if you are concerned you can also try aquashield by itself without brewing. High pressure nozzles will kill most microbes, medium pressure and simple sprayers are fine.
Take care of impropoer res conditions FIRST. Even the tea will not save you from disease if you do not have enough oxygen or proper temperatures. Res water should be around 75f with bennies. Air pump should be at least 1wt per gallon. Light proof your buckets!
If this solution works for you please post in the thread and tell us your story.
I'm happy to answer questions in the thread. You will get a faster reply here than messaging me. Remember, all advice I give is intended for a synthetic DWC grow.
Some FAQ's
Can I run a perpetual batch of tea?
No. The key to fighting slime is a diverse microbe population. No matter what you do to your brew, diversity will peak and begin to decline around the 48 hour mark.
Can I feed the bennies in my res instead of letting them die and replacing them?
No, you would be feeding the slime as well. Some bennies will live on in your roots, most will die. It is simple to replace them which we do every three days while fighting slime, and about once a week after the slime is gone.
Will the chlorine/chloramine in my tap water kill off my bennies?
It is best to use pure water to brew the tea, however adding tap water directly to your buckets in small amounts to top off will not kill enough bennies to matter. I add as much as a gallon of un-aged tap water to my 5 gallon res with no ill effects. If you are worried, simply add a little tea a few hours after watering.
Can I add too much tea?
As long as your tea is brewed properly it is really hard to add too much.
I added tea, maintain proper res conditions, and still have slime!
First be sure you are not simply seeing after-slime. (see above) If it is aggressive slime, then you are probably adding something organic directly to the res. Check each and every thing you put in your mix, and be sure foliar sprays do not drip into the res. Incorporate some type of housing into your res, such as lava rocks.
You are not teaching us how to breed microbes, only multiply them.
Correct.
Don Gin and Ton
Well-Known Member
cheesr guys, I think i just started out with too much water in the res at the bottom, the roots aren't seeking it out if it's there constantly. i just soaked the rockwool cubes and didn't squeeze them out.
good info on microbe brewing, i highly doubt i'll be able to get any of those products over here so i'm fingers crossing it for now and crossing the bridge when i have to swim under it haha! this is probably my 1st mistake i know....
I have H&G flora grow bloom and micro to start i'd planned on getting calmag to add and oxyplus ( h202 not lox del ) and just seeing how she fares, the roots on the fingerez in the small dwc will be filling it soon and I'll have a job transplanting but that's a job for next week.
going to make the cloner tomorrow, i'm going for a walk along the quayside, my locals landlord who i might add I haven't seen in months brought me back from brugge a bottle of the new duvel 2013 tripel. for those that don't know it's their special edition limited batch. so a sample of that i can't really turn down seeing as he's brought it specially for me.
I've prepped the tea and stuck it in the fridge, bought a bunch of flowers for the boss i think a light ale and a crack with the lads can't land me in too much bother....
good info on microbe brewing, i highly doubt i'll be able to get any of those products over here so i'm fingers crossing it for now and crossing the bridge when i have to swim under it haha! this is probably my 1st mistake i know....
I have H&G flora grow bloom and micro to start i'd planned on getting calmag to add and oxyplus ( h202 not lox del
) and just seeing how she fares, the roots on the fingerez in the small dwc will be filling it soon and I'll have a job transplanting but that's a job for next week. going to make the cloner tomorrow, i'm going for a walk along the quayside, my locals landlord who i might add I haven't seen in months brought me back from brugge a bottle of the new duvel 2013 tripel. for those that don't know it's their special edition limited batch. so a sample of that i can't really turn down seeing as he's brought it specially for me.
I've prepped the tea and stuck it in the fridge, bought a bunch of flowers for the boss i think a light ale and a crack with the lads can't land me in too much bother....
Cindyguygrower
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What to do with an overgrown Cheese Palnt with nowhere to fit in 
She was already getting burned up so got decide whether to pull the Caseyband x to make way!
Never grew it to this size before, after some trimming it shoulb be a beast!
She was already getting burned up so got decide whether to pull the Caseyband x to make way!Never grew it to this size before, after some trimming it shoulb be a beast!
Don Gin and Ton
Well-Known Member
aye that'll finish up a cracker man. not many peeps do xmas tree grows unless they're pheno hunting. that's going to be massive by time it's had a stretch and packed buds on lol
PUKKA BUD
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Quick un mate will get on lappy later to reply to ya propa..
With the cuts mate do you put anything like clay pebbles in the bottom of ya prop? Stops the jiffys or whatever soaking up to much water that works good for me and I sometimes get a little green mold on me jiffys I looked into it when I 1st did some an dels right some are good molds fuck knows if mine is mind but it's never gave me no grief...
With the cuts mate do you put anything like clay pebbles in the bottom of ya prop? Stops the jiffys or whatever soaking up to much water that works good for me and I sometimes get a little green mold on me jiffys I looked into it when I 1st did some an dels right some are good molds fuck knows if mine is mind but it's never gave me no grief...
Don Gin and Ton
Well-Known Member
interesting, the prop came with a proper porous mat but it was manky after a few runs an foolishly i binned it. i use a microfibre towel now. just been and checked on them n they seem to be happier now i've dumped most of the water out. might just have save em lol.
the weird thing isw i've been using out of date clonex for donkeys and only the last couple of runs it's made a difference. surely just putting the cuts in rockwool damp they'd root anyway so we'll see. it's day 6 for them, the fingerez look great the psycho's not so good and the dogs aqre still questionable.
the weird thing isw i've been using out of date clonex for donkeys and only the last couple of runs it's made a difference. surely just putting the cuts in rockwool damp they'd root anyway so we'll see. it's day 6 for them, the fingerez look great the psycho's not so good and the dogs aqre still questionable.