BHO with Vacuum oil/wax tutorial

650baquet

Active Member
looks like it works :]
yep well enough for me.

Oh hey check out my Choco...she's ready to boom into flower and this is the first time in a long time i've had a "main cola" and it's gonna be fat if i use something to keep it tight.

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I know she looks kinda shoved into the corner there but two more LCOG are going right in front of her...after you had explained goood triiiip lol was thinking about utilizing every inch of my room where I can still see light. I'll put some of my less prized clones here and there to fill gaps, might have to set them up on stools or something; just turn most of that product into some sort of concentrate.
I already have her tied up with a quick adjust rope so i can easily tighten as it shifts around with increasing weight. Tried to get a good side shot but the light is fucking with my phones camera. My plants have always seemed to do fine with foil walls i'm kinda cheap at times...but i have a bunch of left over panda paper that i used to separate off a veg room and i kinda like it, soft on the eyes but i don't know if it reflects more light more efficiently than foil. Here soon I'll be adding cfls underneath the Choco, does wonders for that very low scraggly crap that i would normally chop off about a week into flower.
 

650baquet

Active Member
grinding so much easier! i use a grinder that creates a tobacco type shred, nice rough chop.
Guess i'm not to the point where i'm trimming so much at once that i'm just sick of it. I don't like grinding for some reason just think it's degrading after all the effort i just put into the plant haha...but i'm at the stage of just growing pretty damn dank herb and have only made BHO like 6 times now. I anted-up with the last number of clones i took so i can make sure i have an abundance of herb...i can't afford to buy anymore haha...so i may be resorting to grinding here soon!
 

vacpurge

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well... heres tonights project. 14 grams bud. 2 g hash. 2 cans of butane. all powderized. all frozen (butane, extractor + weed inside). got excited, grabbed everything out of the freezer, grabbed dish, and was spraying within 30 seconds... realized I hadnt put any paper or filters in the empty spot of the extractor. I dont think it mattered.

spray was different.. not as pressurized or violent. no gasses present, the butane was all liquid and very very cold.

evap off in very cold water... still tons of butane in the oil hence the pictures being so bubbly: 3 grams before + a 2nd good rinse id imagine.













and then I had thisl.... this was fun lol. intense. most excitment ive ever had while making oil. quite the muffin. my biggest ever. plus I got to watch it creep up to my gopro and shut the valve off when it was about 1/8th of an inch from the camera. it was awesome! as soon as I shut the valve the expanding stopped instantly and I was at 26/27.5" on my vacuum gauge.. so almost a 100% vacuum. if I had kept it going it would have touched the camera and made one hell of a permanent mess on it. this was done with no heat.

 

Guzias1

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this was fun lol. intense. most excitment ive ever had while making oil. quite the muffin. my biggest ever. plus I got to watch it creep up to my gopro and shut the valve off when it was about 1/8th of an inch from the camera. it was awesome! as soon as I shut the valve the expanding stopped instantly and I was at 26/27.5" on my vacuum gauge.. so almost a 100% vacuum. if I had kept it going it would have touched the camera and made one hell of a permanent mess on it. this was done with no heat.

thats the beginning of the muffin!


now,
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  • and after many many vacs, and devacs, and foldings of oil back into center of paper, i was finally able to get my solid muffin( muffin is solid when you can touch the muffin, and it doesnt stick to you or shrink.... Notice how tiny it is, this is good, i feel every time i cut this step short, or i never get the solid muffin, i never end up with wax, and usually end up with an "​




 

vacpurge

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so I vac and devac?? what the point of that? do I take the lid off too or what the exact process?

right now its just sitting under a full vac with the valve closed... im not sure what to do. im scared to melt it.
 

Guzias1

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so I vac and devac?? what the point of that? do I take the lid off too or what the exact process?

right now its just sitting under a full vac with the valve closed... im not sure what to do. im scared to melt it.

cant exactly explain.. but you should do it :]

that muffin aint gonna turn into a solid puff ball just under 1 full vac,...

i would really rec you follow these exact steps: if you dont, then you have good reason to complain a the end..

do it , make it happen, and be happy, you can figure it out if you want.. but i know this works :]
 

Guzias1

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P.S.! on batches as small as yours. i have been able to achieve a solid muffin in as little as 3 vacs, and de vacs, and what not.. only 3!

but!!

im pretty sure i average over 15 vac and devacs, with foldings involved once it is workable.. to achieve muffin. you my easily need more than that depending on strain..
 

650baquet

Active Member
IMG_20130401_192546_676.jpgIMG_20130401_192603_924.jpgSo the TrainWreck is done hang drying, this is a real small nug i took just for sampl cause it's completely dry...smells great, similar to the Flinstone Vitamins i used to take as a kid. Has a slight hint of grapefruit in the taste...and i feel like that grapefruit hint goes away not long after the bud goes completely dry so gotta do a BHO run like soon. The high is still building in my head after a few minutes. Arms and legs are starting to feel pretty good and kinda twitchy when i have a random though then change my mind. This is what i look for when i smoke TW. I wish i was in my friends car that has some great subs. I'd like i was floating cause he'd just put on a track that holds a specific Hz.
 

Guzias1

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so I vac and devac?? what the point of that? do I take the lid off too or what the exact process?

right now its just sitting under a full vac with the valve closed... im not sure what to do. im scared to melt it.

go pro footage? :] muffins? waxes? oils? gooos? whats uppppppppppp
 

vacpurge

New Member
well...

I had the video uploading. when I woke up something was wrong and it glitched. its a 3gb upload. 700 minutes. 12 hours. will try again tonight.

also had the oil sitting in the chamber today... fiddled with it this morning and forgot to close the ball valve before leaving it under full vacuum. im sure you know this but DO NOT LEAVE YOUR BALL VALVE OPEN FOR LONG PERIODS WHILE UNDER VACUUM!!!! forgot to close the valve, I came home after a shitty day at work to my fuckin nice muffin ball completely deflated and the chamber filled with oil, gauge at 0 vac... chamber stronger than the pump and sucked everything right back through, including the oil. not impressed.

I dont even know what else to say. really getting sick of this shit, dont think im ready to start winterizing quite yet.
 

Guzias1

Well-Known Member
well...

I had the video uploading. when I woke up something was wrong and it glitched. its a 3gb upload. 700 minutes. 12 hours. will try again tonight.

also had the oil sitting in the chamber today... fiddled with it this morning and forgot to close the ball valve before leaving it under full vacuum. im sure you know this but DO NOT LEAVE YOUR BALL VALVE OPEN FOR LONG PERIODS WHILE UNDER VACUUM!!!! forgot to close the valve, I came home after a shitty day at work to my fuckin nice muffin ball completely deflated and the chamber filled with oil, gauge at 0 vac... chamber stronger than the pump and sucked everything right back through, including the oil. not impressed.

I dont even know what else to say. really getting sick of this shit, dont think im ready to start winterizing quite yet.

eeeeeee, tough luck.. yupp. you gotta be careful with the ball valves.. i always make sure to close it before turning off my pump..

ALWAYS

it seems like you need a break...

i commonly fucked up batches due to mistakes, and high heats, and bs when i initially started doing this. Thought i could manage leaving it alone for hours while i was at work.. well,, i got to a point where i was fucking up too much.. sooo, i paused, and waited a few days till i had enough time to fully monitor the process..

and vacpurge.. what kind of videos you trying to upload? 12 hours?? thats like the lord of the rings series.. i think i would just skip to the end :p

i bet you could download some free video editing software (or your comp already has it built in) edit your video, change its resolution, and BINGO..

you are killling me man, 3gb upload?

save your self time :
edit your videos.
upload.

i bet you uploading that heavy really tears your connection speeds up as well..
3GB?????? bho video. lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
 

vacpurge

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3gb isnt much lol. its HD from a go pro on one of its lower settings.... you dont wanna see a blur of oil do ya, and you dont have to watch it all. just skim through the first few seconds, watch the muffin, then skin through it all in five, 2-second watches is what I do. internet is free and doesnt bother me because I upload it while I sleep for 10 hours, then straight to work for 10 hours, so the comp has lots of time to do its thing ;)

but yeah, the oil is sure getting frustrating. even at room temperature, the muffining is going away and its still melting into an oil once again. I do have some pictures that ill have to upload some time, they look cool.
 

650baquet

Active Member
internet is free and doesnt bother me because I upload it while I sleep for 10 hours, then straight to work for 10 hours, so the comp has lots of time to do its thing ;)

but yeah, the oil is sure getting frustrating. even at room temperature, the muffining is going away and its still melting into an oil once again. I do have some pictures that ill have to upload some time, they look cool.
Might be free for you, I forgot to watch how much i download cause i have a max 500kbps download speed and i'm not sure if i got charged for downloading to much volume or too much volume in one night type of thing. I probably downloaded around 30-40GB worth of tv episodes in one day...bill last month was 150 compared to the usual 35 or 39......i was like DAMN??!!! both my girlfriend and i blamed the DLing immediately. but i have yet to call and find out the exact reason.

I've been taking a more relaxed approach to BHO, I def want to purge properly and remove as much butane as i can. The last time i went to revac and remove some more bubbles my stuff looked like it was starting to wax up pretty good...well after a day of just sitting on the table the "semi-waxed" oil has dried out a lot more and almost crumbles when pressing on it...kinda like a dry candle. I'm not happy with these results but i got lazy and distracted letting my oil sit under vac@100F for about 6hrs, 4hrs longer than i though it would take. I def feel like i'm trying to juggle a lot of things lately between my plants, harvesting, extracting, work, girl, RIU, dog...and so on...not necessarily in that order either haha girl is number one even though we rarely get to hang out due to conflicting schedules. She really appreciates having all the herb she could want too :) she goes through a fraction of what i do sooooo idc
If you feel you're juggling a lot of shit see if anybody can help you with anything, it's always encouraging to have a friend around helping out once in a while.
 

vacpurge

New Member
if youre all about a full purge.. why not winterize?? I cant wait to get rid of those plant waxes and maybe take a smooth dab that doesnt kill my lungs for once.
 

650baquet

Active Member
I guess purge does mean to rid of all wastes, impurities. So mainly i don't want butane in my oil...but at this point i'm happy not always having to smoke just herb, and i enjoy the effect of bho a lot, ng to plus it's fun to make. I might not make any here for a while just so i can save up a little money. Trying to pay off some bills and college debt so i can actually save money towards getting to Cali.

I've been having some thoughts about warming the butane can and super chilling the receiving tank, whether it's a column or jar. Warming the tank forces the liquid inside to build energy and would rather be in a gas form... when you get to the end of the can and it's warm, the gasses were put under more pressure/expanded more, ensuring a more completely empty can. With the receiving tank being super chilled, i would say atleast 15F or less, the butane will then be like yay I get to cool down and be liquid again condensing directing to the first cold material it touches...so long as it stays cold..so the column or jar or even stainless tank as in the Tamisium case needs to be continuously chilled during the process. The Tamisium is a sweet little set up. I would really really love to be able to retrieve my butane for future runs...wonder how efficient it is and how long it would take the saved butane to pay off the Tamisium haha. Also it wold be sweet to have a silicon nonstick liner for the receiving tank so you don't have to scrape with a razor blade...but you could just rinse the tank with ethanol possibly and winterize as you rinse the tank. Not sure if that would work.
 

Guzias1

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I would really really love to be able to retrieve my butane for future runs...wonder how efficient it is and how long it would take the saved butane to pay off the Tamisium haha. Also it wold be sweet to have a silicon nonstick liner for the receiving tank so you don't have to scrape with a razor blade...but you could just rinse the tank with ethanol possibly and winterize as you rinse the tank. Not sure if that would work.

last time i touched a blade was for cloning :]

ever since i've been blasting on parchment.. i see zero difference in outcome, but i get a nice clean run every time, %100 of my material is retrieved as well :] no cleaning/scraping dishes blah blhabblhaaaa
 
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