SpliffAndMyLady
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Aloha Gang!
I was playing peek-a-boo with the sun trying to snap these pictures today, enjoy~
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Aloha Gang!
I was playing peek-a-boo with the sun trying to snap these pictures today, enjoy~
looks nice Spliffmaster kush!
Here is were i'm at currently from left to right:
Cherry Pie X OG
Twisted Sister
Lemon Diesel X Salvador(trainwreck X Purple snowman)
Mendo Queen X Paki Chitral Kush (purple pheno)
Mendo Queen X Paki Chitral Kush (Green Mutant)
Here is were i'm at currently from left to right:
Cherry Pie X OG
Twisted Sister
Lemon Diesel X Salvador(trainwreck X Purple snowman)
Mendo Queen X Paki Chitral Kush (purple pheno)
Mendo Queen X Paki Chitral Kush (Green Mutant)
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kaloconnection
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nice plants guys, i wish i had more girlies that far along right now.
I tried your aloe technique yesterday, Spliffmon. Such a perfect Equinox yesterday, plants were loving that beautiful sunshine.
I tried your aloe technique yesterday, Spliffmon. Such a perfect Equinox yesterday, plants were loving that beautiful sunshine.
SpliffAndMyLady
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Nice, I bet they were extra stoked on that aloe!
Prepare for lots of new foliage, growth, and vigor. I foilar sprayed with a fresh aloe/lactobacillus mix yesterday and within 2 hours they were reaching for the sky, today when I checked them they grew 1 1/2" with new nodes. Do you have aloe vera plants around you house? I can't take credit for this stuff though, 'Clackamascoot' over on another site inspired my approach towards growing, all credit goes to him. I'm just passing along along the wisdom~
kaloconnection
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Yeah, I have tons of aloe around my house, but I mostly use it to make wounds heal faster and leave less of a scar. Nice to know it can be used in my garden as well.
I also started using the LAB serum this year and just employing more organic techniques all around in my garden and I must say, my plants are already exponentially bigger right now than they were last year.
When should I stop with the foliar feeding? I'm usually hesitant to get any kind of water on my plants when there are showing significant flowering
if your plants are outside, I'd stop the foliar feeding as soon as they go into flower. You run the risk of mold,and that far out weighs the returns in my opinion.
SpliffAndMyLady
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I agree, Puna your pm inbox is full.
SurfdOut
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My understanding of mushroom compost is that it is ok but not the best compost. I'd contact the Hamakua guys and find out the exact composition and the procedures they use. I think you need to think of it as an ammedment and not a base. Might be high in salts. BUT, i have never used it so it's only secondhand info. Hope this helps, let us know how it works for ya.....
SpliffAndMyLady
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Shroom compost is a cool amendment high in fungal activity and is used to add biodiversity to a soil mix, just like any compost would. Use it as a soil conditioner.
SurfdOut
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Pasted from IC-
Hope this helps-
First, Mushroom Compost is not real compost. The real name of this product is Spent Mushroom Substrate (SMS). It is called “Mushroom Compost” as a marketing ploy to help dispose of it.
SMS is made from a combination of wheat straw, dried blood, gypsum, lime or crushed limestone, poultry litter, cow or horse manure & bedding, hay, corn cobs, cottonseed hulls, cocoa bean hulls, clay, peat moss, etc. depending on what is available in a given area. The material is partially composted for a few weeks and then steam pasteurized (sterilized) which kills off all of the beneficial microbes. Then the material is then inoculated with the species of mushroom (fungus) that the grower wishes to produce. Additionally, the material is often loaded with table salt (Sodium Chloride, NaCl) to ensure only the desired species of mushroom will live and grow in the substrate.
Several crops of mushrooms are raised and harvested on this substrate until yields start to decline as the original nutrients are used up. When the nutrient level drops to low to raise mushrooms, it is at this time the substrate is replaced by fresh substrate. The old used substrate must be then disposed of. Worldwide this is over 4 million tons per year.
Common Problems:
Studies have shown decreased plant growth and yield at levels as low as 5% SMS in a mix due to high soluble salts. Other studies have shown it may have a high pH level which is harmful to plants that like acidic conditions.
Even the low quality bagged manure often sold in Big Box stores often has 3X the amount of nutrients.
Mushroom growers have major problems with fungus gnats hence they regularly spray with toxic chemicals such as methoprene, cyromazine, diflunezuron, Dimlin, and Diazinon. Other toxic chemicals occasionally used are benmyl, thiabendazole, and chlorothalonill. Hence SMS does not meet the standards for use in organic production.
The SMS is often stored in large piles that become anaerobic. This allows pathogens to growinthematerial. Theputrefyingorganicmattercrea tesorganicacidsthatoftenhavea strong odor. Common odors are vinegar, sour milk, vomit, rotting meat smell and occasionally ammonia or rotten eggs. All these odors indicate that alcohol is present which is toxic to plant roots in concentrations as low as 1 ppm.
Benefits:
SMS is organic matter and still contains some nutrients. Since most of our area soils are very low in organic matter it may provide some benefit. Best results occur in sandy soils in areas with lots of rainfall so the water can wash out and leach the salts. Note: In clay soils the salts help glue the particles together helping to create hardpan.
Comment:
The quality and usage of SMS varies greatly around the world, from good and useful to very bad and toxic based on regional customs and local regulations.
Hope this helps-
First, Mushroom Compost is not real compost. The real name of this product is Spent Mushroom Substrate (SMS). It is called “Mushroom Compost” as a marketing ploy to help dispose of it.
SMS is made from a combination of wheat straw, dried blood, gypsum, lime or crushed limestone, poultry litter, cow or horse manure & bedding, hay, corn cobs, cottonseed hulls, cocoa bean hulls, clay, peat moss, etc. depending on what is available in a given area. The material is partially composted for a few weeks and then steam pasteurized (sterilized) which kills off all of the beneficial microbes. Then the material is then inoculated with the species of mushroom (fungus) that the grower wishes to produce. Additionally, the material is often loaded with table salt (Sodium Chloride, NaCl) to ensure only the desired species of mushroom will live and grow in the substrate.
Several crops of mushrooms are raised and harvested on this substrate until yields start to decline as the original nutrients are used up. When the nutrient level drops to low to raise mushrooms, it is at this time the substrate is replaced by fresh substrate. The old used substrate must be then disposed of. Worldwide this is over 4 million tons per year.
Common Problems:
Studies have shown decreased plant growth and yield at levels as low as 5% SMS in a mix due to high soluble salts. Other studies have shown it may have a high pH level which is harmful to plants that like acidic conditions.
Even the low quality bagged manure often sold in Big Box stores often has 3X the amount of nutrients.
Mushroom growers have major problems with fungus gnats hence they regularly spray with toxic chemicals such as methoprene, cyromazine, diflunezuron, Dimlin, and Diazinon. Other toxic chemicals occasionally used are benmyl, thiabendazole, and chlorothalonill. Hence SMS does not meet the standards for use in organic production.
The SMS is often stored in large piles that become anaerobic. This allows pathogens to growinthematerial. Theputrefyingorganicmattercrea tesorganicacidsthatoftenhavea strong odor. Common odors are vinegar, sour milk, vomit, rotting meat smell and occasionally ammonia or rotten eggs. All these odors indicate that alcohol is present which is toxic to plant roots in concentrations as low as 1 ppm.
Benefits:
SMS is organic matter and still contains some nutrients. Since most of our area soils are very low in organic matter it may provide some benefit. Best results occur in sandy soils in areas with lots of rainfall so the water can wash out and leach the salts. Note: In clay soils the salts help glue the particles together helping to create hardpan.
Comment:
The quality and usage of SMS varies greatly around the world, from good and useful to very bad and toxic based on regional customs and local regulations.
East Hawaii
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Surf That's how some things are , not good for everyone. Like for me no more mixes with coco it hold too much water and caused root rot in one of my outside plants last summer.
But for you it would be good. You should start those Molokai Frost mid next month to get them big.
But for you it would be good. You should start those Molokai Frost mid next month to get them big.
KonaGold808
Member
What are good "homemade" fertilizers for my plants? they are about on their 3rd and 4th set of leaves i heard of boiled rice water being good or diluted milk? or eggshells just regular everyday household items, 
https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/504132-budologists-2012-outdoor-grow-tga.html
Check this thread out, he uses mushroom compost.
Check this thread out, he uses mushroom compost.
kaloconnection
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I'm not an expert on the subject but I think with eggshells, you will want to dissolve them in vinegar or something first to make them soluble, so your plant can actually absorb the calcium. Otherwise it will take a very long time for the shell to breakdown far enough into a form that is usable by the plant.What are good "homemade" fertilizers for my plants? they are about on their 3rd and 4th set of leaves i heard of boiled rice water being good or diluted milk? or eggshells just regular everyday household items,
Having a worm bin or compost pile is a really great way to recycle all your leftover food and turn it into really great stuff. You can amend soil with it or make compost teas.
Also, some of the korean natural farmers make fermented fruit and plant juice extracts with just brown sugar and various things collected from the yard.
Lactic Acid Bacteria Serum is a really easy one to do at home, and most people in hawaii already have everything they need in their cupboards.
http://gardening.knoji.com/natural-farming-how-to-prepare-lactic-acid-bacteria-serum/
Making your own plant foods is very economical, the only trade-off is it usually requires more labor and time then just paying for some shit in a bottle. It is definitely a more rewarding and positive experience knowing you are helping to heal the environment and saving money by recycling your food waste and reinvigorating the microbial life that is present in the land.
Jahmoondoe
Member
aloha,
any maui growers online hit me up?
#medical+recreational
any maui growers online hit me up?
#medical+recreational
kaloconnection
Well-Known Member
Here's couple of my girls that went outside recently. Lemon stomper cross and the taller lanky one is a purple wreck x OG18. Just popped a few Doc's OG by rare dankness
Nice healthy looking plants