Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

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Guitar Man

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Some of the buds from my chopped plants this weekend. Thanks, UB, for the awesome topping advice! This has been the best grow I have done, and I'm sure the next one will even be better!
 

drew425

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Question.....so this will be my first try at UB's topping technique. From my picture posted there appears to be 4 full nodes and the 5th is opening up. Should I wait until the 5th opens up or top it now? And its right above the second true node? (It appears to me that the 2nd node is where the first larger set of fan leaves are. The first does appear to be a true node as they are exact opposites. Please if anyone could answer this I need to top soon. THanks
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Guitar Man

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Question.....so this will be my first try at UB's topping technique. From my picture posted there appears to be 4 full nodes and the 5th is opening up. Should I wait until the 5th opens up or top it now? And its right above the second true node? (It appears to me that the 2nd node is where the first larger set of fan leaves are. The first does appear to be a true node as they are exact opposites. Please if anyone could answer this I need to top soon. THanks
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Here's what mine looked like when I did the top. I would let yours veg a little longer to get that 5th full node.
 

drew425

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You think its getting root bound?
I do a shit ton of transplanting due to space and I've transplanted some plants way smaller and less beautiful than yours in the pic and IMO you need to transplant. If I really don't have the room I transplant into 1 gallon grow bags. They're easy to works with and will hold up to 1ft plant and they're super easier to transplant and dispose of. I just did a few seedlings the other day that only had 2 nodes and they already had a nice root ball and reached the bottom of the party cup:-P
 

Uncle Ben

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You think its getting root bound?
Pop it out and take a look. Won't hurt it a bit unless the rootball falls apart which I seriously doubt is gonna happen.

People, as I've shown quite a few times, it doesn't hurt to top above the 1st node to get 2 main colas. It's all relative - the lower you top the larger but fewer main colas you're gonna get. The object here is not to trick the plant OUT of producing its main cola, just more of them. The new, multiple main colas all have to become dominant regarding a plant's tendency to "settle into" apical dominance regarding its terminal leaders. It's all about training to get to where you want to go. For example, while young I HATE double or triple tops on deciduous landscape trees and conifers. Maybe when it gets up to 12' and taller, fine. But not when it's 2' tall. Just food for thought.......

Easy peasy......
Uncle Ben
 

Alexander Supertramp

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Pop it out and take a look. Won't hurt it a bit unless the rootball falls apart which I seriously doubt is gonna happen.

People, as I've shown quite a few times, it doesn't hurt to top above the 1st node to get 2 main colas. It's all relative - the lower you top the larger but fewer main colas you're gonna get. The object here is not to trick the plant OUT of producing its main cola, just more of them. The new, multiple main colas all have to become dominant regarding a plant's tendency to "settle into" apical dominance regarding its terminal leaders. It's all about training to get to where you want to go. For example, while young I HATE double or triple tops on deciduous landscape trees and conifers. Maybe when it gets up to 12' and taller, fine. But not when it's 2' tall. Just food for thought.......

Easy peasy......
Uncle Ben
LOL The question was one of sarcasm.......
 

drew425

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Pop it out and take a look. Won't hurt it a bit unless the rootball falls apart which I seriously doubt is gonna happen.

People, as I've shown quite a few times, it doesn't hurt to top above the 1st node to get 2 main colas. It's all relative - the lower you top the larger but fewer main colas you're gonna get. The object here is not to trick the plant OUT of producing its main cola, just more of them. The new, multiple main colas all have to become dominant regarding a plant's tendency to "settle into" apical dominance regarding its terminal leaders. It's all about training to get to where you want to go. For example, while young I HATE double or triple tops on deciduous landscape trees and conifers. Maybe when it gets up to 12' and taller, fine. But not when it's 2' tall. Just food for thought.......

Easy peasy......
Uncle Ben
Thanks again!
 

drew425

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I do that last thing too only top at 3rd node giving it 6 main colas.
The strain is Amnesia Haze, i clone it top it and put it in my Flower Box cause it flowers 3 months +

As soon as they start to grow i pin em down with strong electrical wires cause they are coated to protect you, but can protect my plants upper skin too.
I keep on pinning them down so all the buds get light.
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Peace!
Have you grown A haze before? I was wondering why the hell mine is taking so long to finish. Mine is at 78 days right now. So your saying I should wait until at least 90 days plus? Up to this point I have grown mostly Indicas, I heard sativas take a long time to finish, but damnnnn
 

Uncle Ben

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Have you grown A haze before? I was wondering why the hell mine is taking so long to finish. Mine is at 78 days right now. So your saying I should wait until at least 90 days plus? Up to this point I have grown mostly Indicas, I heard sativas take a long time to finish, but damnnnn
Patience, or as some would say, "patients". You'll be cussin' a bit more before it's all over. Your biggest challenge is to retain those leaves as long as possible. I've had Vietnamese sativa (and Haze and other sativas) indoors go veg for months...and then you have the fun part of having that happy time repeated during flowering. Reward? Airy buds that may or not be potent. :)

Sativas grow and finish based on a chronological age thingie, not a phytochrome driven thingie like your typical indica mutt. IOW, you can have a pure sativa and a indica mutt, flip to 12/12 and the mutt will respond to the hormonal change as dictated by the short day photoperiod.
 

drew425

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Patience, or as some would say, "patients". You'll be cussin' a bit more before it's all over. Your biggest challenge is to retain those leaves as long as possible. I've had Vietnamese sativa (and Haze and other sativas) indoors go veg for months...and then you have the fun part of having that happy time repeated during flowering. Reward? Airy buds that may or not be potent. :)

Sativas grow and finish based on a chronological age thingie, not a phytochrome driven thingie like your typical indica mutt. IOW, you can have a pure sativa and a indica mutt, flip to 12/12 and the mutt will respond to the hormonal change as dictated by the short day photoperiod.
Thanks UB. My Haze is about 79days at this point. Short and stalky with about 6 good sized colas.The leaves are perfect not one yellow leaf. I don't mind waiting if the end result is good
 

mrblu

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anyone tried this with white widow? il be topping in a couple weeks and im trying to get an idea if i want to go for 2 or 4 or just leave it be.
 

Alexander Supertramp

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Sativas grow and finish based on a chronological age thingie, not a phytochrome driven thingie like your typical indica mutt. IOW, you can have a pure sativa and a indica mutt, flip to 12/12 and the mutt will respond to the hormonal change as dictated by the short day photoperiod.

I have noticed the same thing in the past. And I figure since Sativas are equatorial in heritage and when its pretty much 12/12 12 months out of the year they have no other choice...plus its a great indicator if you have a 'true' Sativa or not.
 
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