Marijuana Myths

36OhBuds

Active Member
Actually, cannabis is a bronchial dilator and anti-inflammatory, so it does.
Orithil - I'm not a veteran here, in fact this is the first month of my membership so I'm not trying to start a fight. Disclaimer. I'm only stating what I learned in my pre-med courses (obv didn't follow through with that). We actually had a marijuana friendly professor, and in fact, he advocated marijuana research and for us to do our own research. So, we were taught these concepts in class because in our state, it's an important thing to know. However, this is all science, and not my conclusion.

Other disclaimer: In no way shape or form is this meant to be medical advice and nobody should take it as such. You should always consult your own doctor before making a decision about using cannabis or for information you deem to be of a medical nature.

That being said...

The only difference between cannabis and cigarette smoke is that cigarette smoke has a longer lasting paralyzing effect on the cilia in your throat and also paralyzes all of the cilia in your lungs. Cannabis allows them to still function at a capacity, and thus, allows you to cough up all the shit you're inhaling.

When you smoke, your lungs get gunked up the same way that a pipe or bong does after awhile.

The cilia are still working though so you cough up some of the shit you're stuffing in your lungs. If you chronically smoke enough (when I was smoking an eighth a day, I was at this point) you will outrun your lungs ability to clear and detrimentally diminish your own lung function until you give them a chance to catch up (Smoker's cough).

It doesn't cause the same permanent damage as a cigarette, but it is still causing a loss in efficiency. They're not cleaning anything out, other than what you're putting in them, and they would do this regardless if you are inhaling marijuana smoke or smoke from a campfire. If anybody in this forum thinks otherwise then I'd challenge you to find concrete proof.

You're inhaling burned plant matter. To think our lungs can handle that over a period of time, and even more so, just because we all love this drug (and I love it as much as all of you) that it does something magical with it's smoke that other burned matter doesn't seems kind of naive.

But more importantly: Marijuana may be a bronchial dilator, but so is an Albuterol inahler, and that doesn't clean out your lungs (I know, I had one when I had bronchitis). It just helps you breath easier.

In the end, the only reason it gets the phlegm going is because you're coughing up what you're putting in, and I guess overall, that's probably a good thing.

CLIFFNOTES:
But the terminology of the myth I stated seems right: You would NEVER give someone with pneumonia marijuana and tell them to smoke it, ever. That being said, I think the reasoning follows that it doesn't clean out your lungs because if it did, the initial judgement would probably be different.
 

slowbus

New Member
Myth or not, I'd rather have someone going 20 miles an hour in the fast lane with their left blinker on.. on the expressway than a drunk driver getting on the freeway backward, and going head-on at 95+

how about pulling out in front of you when you are on a motorcycle ? How about trying to do a U-turn in front of your loaded Semi ?

I hear what you are saying but, around here young drivers on pot kill people.Or get themselves killed.Like it or not.-FACT
How do I know they were stoned you ask? B/C its a small town and we know....
 

Figong

Well-Known Member
how about pulling out in front of you when you are on a motorcycle ? How about trying to do a U-turn in front of your loaded Semi ?

I hear what you are saying but, around here young drivers on pot kill people.Or get themselves killed.Like it or not.-FACT
How do I know they were stoned you ask? B/C its a small town and we know....
I fully realize that aspect of it - was just saying that out of the 2.. if I had to pick and 1 was certain - from what I've seen, experienced first-hand, and have read.. would take the stoner over the drunk. (personal experiences & opinion only)
 

slowbus

New Member
Myth or not, I'd rather have someone going 20 miles an hour in the fast lane with their left blinker on.. on the expressway than a drunk driver getting on the freeway backward, and going head-on at 95+

did you see the Vette parked under the semi in the other thread?Thats what happens with slow moving traffic on the freeway
 

Figong

Well-Known Member
did you see the Vette parked under the semi in the other thread?Thats what happens with slow moving traffic on the freeway
Yup, and have seen that firsthand.. cept it ended up buried under a gas tanker truck that shut down I-94 for 7+ hours, with traffic being diverted down Gratiot near Mt. Clemens in the 80s.
 

slowbus

New Member
I fully realize that aspect of it - was just saying that out of the 2.. if I had to pick and 1 was certain - from what I've seen, experienced first-hand, and have read.. would take the stoner over the drunk. (personal experiences & opinion only)

i agree with ya there bud
 

rowlman

Well-Known Member
Marijuana plants coming up out of their pots in the middle of the night during a full moon and terrorizing unsuspecting after- hours church groups is just a myth. That shit never happens.
 

Sativied

Well-Known Member
I have a friend that says marijuana helps his asthma.
He says marijuana helps his lungs expand thus making
it easier for him to breath when he needs to.
I don't have asthma in particular but I use my homegrown weed pretty much as a substitute for an inhaler (dilator and slime dissolver or something). Depends a lot on the mj though, some (of the crap they sell here) only makes it worse. Vaporizing a high quality haze seems to work best for me. Still makes me cough and clear a bit, but without closing up my air pipe and after just minutes I can breath like a healthy teenager (or I get so high it feels like that, either way it works for me).
 

Milovan

Well-Known Member
Re: red eye.. that's fact, the red comes from dehydration as a result of it.
I smoke daily for 36 years and never once have I had red eye nor eye droop but
some of my friends, their eyes turn a hardcore blazing red every time they smoke.

So marijuana gives you red eye = Semi Myth
 

Figong

Well-Known Member
In my waking hours I smoke daily for 36 years and never once have I had red eye nor eye droop but
some of my friends, their eyes turn a hardcore blazing red every time they smoke.

So marijuana gives you red eye = Semi Myth
http://www.amsterdammarijuanaseedbank.com/donotgetbusted/how-to-not-get-busted-when-stoned.html

Citing:

"The dreaded red-eye effect: Typically you will see this due to the body's dehydration after smoking marijuana. Most people have cotton mouth, dry eyes and never sweat when they are high, but they do not connect the dots that it is from dehydration. The water from your body gets drained out, but you can quickly fix this effect with eye-drops and water. Make sure to only use three drops per eye because more drops can increase the red-eye effect. If you forgot your eye-drops and for some reason cannot visit your local drug store (Eckerd, Walgreens or CVS style stores), then make sure you drink as much water as possible. This will stop the munchies, relive your cotton mouth and lessen the effects of red-eye. You will, however, need to drink at least five glasses to get the desired effect."

That said, Dutch seed banks are amongst some of the best in terms of knowledge related to grow, and cannabis in general. I'd say this is fact (for most), depending on the amount of water and other one drinks to stay hydrated, pending any solid documentation to the contrary. I could also see how semi-fact is valid and wouldn't argue that.
 

Milovan

Well-Known Member
http://www.amsterdammarijuanaseedbank.com/donotgetbusted/how-to-not-get-busted-when-stoned.html
make sure you drink as much water as possible. This will stop the munchies, relive your cotton mouth and lessen the effects of red-eye. You will, however, need to drink at least five glasses to get the desired effect."

That said, Dutch seed banks are amongst some of the best in terms of knowledge related to grow, and cannabis in general. I'd say this is fact (for most), depending on the amount of water and other one drinks to stay hydrated, pending any solid documentation to the contrary. I could also see how semi-fact is valid and wouldn't argue that.
You are right. This very well explains why I never get red eye.
When I drink an average amount or more of my daily liquid intake, 99% of the time it is water
and sometimes I drink nothing but water for a month straight for no reason other then I am
thirsty cause I smoke a lot of pot all the time.
 

Figong

Well-Known Member
Ha!! This very well explains why I never get red eye.
When I drink an average amount or more of liquids daily, 99% of the time it is water
and sometimes I drink nothing but water for a month straight for no reason other then I am
thirsty cause I smoke a lot of pot all the time.
Yup, it could - is why I was saying truth, which should have been truth for most - we're in agreement.. stay hydrated, and if you can't.. eye drops will help as well. :D
 

Milovan

Well-Known Member
(i'm token and talkin too much I know) but how 'bout
marijuana leads to short term memory loss? Myth?
 

Sativied

Well-Known Member
That said, Dutch seed banks are amongst some of the best in terms of knowledge related to grow, and cannabis in general. I'd say this is fact (for most), depending on the amount of water and other one drinks to stay hydrated, pending any solid documentation to the contrary. I could also see how semi-fact is valid and wouldn't argue that.
Frankly this is pretty much common knowledge over here, not just by seed banks but also any coffeeshops giving info or from one stoner to another. In 1992, back in high school (or the equivalent of it anyway) I first learned about it. I used to smoke with a girl, a proper hippie with posh parents, who used regular eye drops to get rid of the red eye effect so the teachers wouldn't notice after our smoking breaks.

It helps only so much though. And there are other factors. Sleep seems to have a lot of influence for me, and exercising as well (few miles on a bicycle and I look healthy as a farmer). I frequently go to Amsterdam and haven't tried all shops yet, but if I go to a new one and don't leave with red eyes, I'm not likely to return soon.
 
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