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209 Cali closet grower

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My outdoor Spring, force flower Breeders Boutique grow out!-Name of new thread, something I can go back on, if I need info on my grow or anyone growing there strains.

Well here it is Joe pics 040.jpgJoe pics 041.jpgJoe pics 042.jpgJoe pics 046.jpg I'll put names up today
 

bassman999

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Doob do you think that guy really is ALL natural?
He seems to have too much vascularity, but his mid section is under control.
I have veins that pop out dont get me wrong, but the sheer diameter is not like that..
 

DoobieBrother

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Definitely going to be looking for a house with a good Southern exposure.
The wife & I want to start up a decent veggy garden (she's vegetarian).
Those plants must love that white wall behind them.
 

DoobieBrother

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Doob do you think that guy really is ALL natural?
He seems to have too much vascularity, but his mid section is under control.
I have veins that pop out dont get me wrong, but the sheer diameter is not like that..
My veins get to be about as big around as a pencil. and larger, when I am in shape.
I look like a freak, actually.
Big veins everywhere even when not pumped up from exertion.
The only supplements I was taking was your typical powdered shake drinks taken with a meal.
The rest was proper diet & fluid intake.
I had no real sense of my own body image, I was more concerned with power, speed, and endurance.
I have a really fast metabolism that kicks into overdrive when I consistently exercise, so I was ripped & cut, but when I looked down at my arms & legs & torso, they seemed like only a slightly bigger version of the girly sticks I had before bulking up.
I had no clue how beefed & buff I was until after the construction season when Winter would hit and I'd take it easier.
and had time to get out and pay attention to other people.
 

bassman999

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My veins get to be about as big around as a pencil. and larger, when I am in shape.
I look like a freak, actually.
Big veins everywhere even when not pumped up from exertion.
The only supplements I was taking was your typical powdered shake drinks taken with a meal.
The rest was proper diet & fluid intake.
I had no real sense of my own body image, I was more concerned with power, speed, and endurance.
I have a really fast metabolism that kicks into overdrive when I consistently exercise, so I was ripped & cut, but when I looked down at my arms & legs & torso, they seemed like only a slightly bigger version of the girly sticks I had before bulking up.
I had no clue how beefed & buff I was until after the construction season when Winter would hit and I'd take it easier.
and had time to get out and pay attention to other people.
I would say my veins are pencil diameter, but not AA battery size like that guy appears to be while not even pumped.
Maybe I needed to get from 10-12%...even as high as 18" bf to 6-8% to really see that?
 

209 Cali closet grower

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Definitely going to be looking for a house with a good Southern exposure.
The wife & I want to start up a decent veggy garden (she's vegetarian).
Those plants must love that white wall behind them.
they seem to like it :weed: all day sun. Going to get my back yard on this weekend for the main grow. Would like to do 15 -20 plants, But I'm going for big plants, so I'll be lucky to do 15.4th of July 028.jpg
 

DoobieBrother

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This is my hand & fore arm without any exercise.
When I'm in shape, the veins are about 3 times as big, and they go all the way up into my pecs, and my legs are just as veiny.
Just means that lots of blood & oxygen is available when called upon.

 

DoobieBrother

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There you go stealing again, doobs.

Howdy Sixers.
Well, Conan started out as a thief.
;-)

I think it's funny that a website that has a pic of a Frazetta painting would call someone a thief.
I'd like to see the licensing agreement they paid for to have the right to display his copyrighted work.
;-)
 

DoobieBrother

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This is my hand & fore arm without any exercise.
When I'm in shape, the veins are about 3 times as big, and they go all the way up into my pecs, and my legs are just as veiny.
Just means that lots of blood & oxygen is available when called upon.

The problem with big veins is that the blood gushes like a river when you take some shrapnel.
The amount of blood made it seem like a horrendous wound, but all it did was nick a few big veins on my ring & pinky fingers.
I was back on the line by the next day.
 

DoobieBrother

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Bassman, one thing to consider about possible reasons for running out of oomph is lactic acidosis (my current meds mean I have to be especially careful of it):

http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/guide/exercise-and-lactic-acidosis

*from the article:

Lactic Acidosis Related to Exercise

Lactic acidosis occurs naturally during vigorous exercise. Lactic acid, or lactate, is a by-product of metabolism that builds up in muscles and blood during strenuous activity. Lactic acidosis due to exercise is temporary and is not harmful. Serious medical conditions can also cause lactic acidosis, which can be dangerous in those situations.
Lactic Acidosis Causes

During exercise, muscles metabolize glucose (sugar) into energy. Muscles receive glucose continually through the blood, and also have their own stores of sugar (called glycogen).
Every person has an upper limit of exercise ability, called the anaerobic threshold or lactate threshold. The lactate threshold is basically a measurement of how fit theheart and blood vessels are. With regular exercise training, a person’s lactate threshold goes up.
Exercising at an intensity level below the lactate threshold produces very little lactic acid, and the body quickly clears what is produced. A person can exercise below the lactate threshold for a long time, even for hours.
Once the intensity of exercise exceeds the lactate threshold, muscles begin to use glucose inefficiently, through alternative chemical reactions. Lactic acid is produced and can rapidly build up in the blood and muscles.

Lactic Acidosis Symptoms

When a person's exercise intensity crosses the lactate threshold, the activity rapidly becomes much more difficult and unpleasant. Muscles ache and burn, the heart pounds, and a person feels starved for air. The muscles performing the exercise become extremely fatigued. These symptoms increase if a person continues to exercise above the lactate threshold. In a brief time, the person is physically unable to exercise any longer at that intensity.
Experts disagree as to whether it is lactic acidosis itself that causes these symptoms or if they result from other chemicals or processes that occur during vigorous exercise.
Lactic Acidosis Treatment

Lactic acidosis due to exercise is not harmful and no treatment is necessary. Natural processes make exercising above the lactate threshold impossible for more than brief periods.
Unlike lactic acidosis caused by serious medical conditions, no damage is occurring in the body during exercise. In fact, vigorous exercise that creates lactic acidosis can be a healthy part of an active lifestyle. Talk with your doctor to make sure you are ready for strenuous activity before starting this type of exercise program.
Other Types of Lactic Acidosis

Other types of lactic acidosis can occur from side effects of drugs and serious medical conditions. These include:

  • Severe infection (sepsis)
  • Mitochondrial disorders
  • Carbon monoxide poisoning
  • Loss of blood supply to a limb or other body part
These conditions cause lactic acidosis in an entirely different way than that of exercise. Lactic acidosis in these situations is usually diagnosed in a hospital, after a severe illness is already identified.
 

DoobieBrother

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I would say my veins are pencil diameter, but not AA battery size like that guy appears to be while not even pumped.
Maybe I needed to get from 10-12%...even as high as 18" bf to 6-8% to really see that?
Some people just don't have the big subcutaneous veins.
It's nothing to aspire to, per se.
So long as your muscles don't fatigue too quickly, then you have adequate veins, they're just deeper under the fat layer, and larger inside the muscles.
I'm currently at about 10 or 11% bodyfat.
I was a freak for the monkey bars in grade school, and got into gymnastics in middle school & highschool, and had an unbreakable grip that I could hold for 30 or more minutes at full strength.
I've always had these veins, they just get more pronounced the more I exercise.
 

jigfresh

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I gotta say, I'm a wee bit frightened by your super human capabilities brother doob. I'm glad you are a peace loving man.
 
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