And the South shall rise again

Red1966

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A skinhead that's also a diddler... Its so obvious it's like saying Santa likes cookies (especially when he's wearing his green suit). Actually Red, how many times did you get to be Santa before your kids passed their "best before" date?
Jokes on you. I'm still Santa I just got diverted to some webpage that claimed "The site you are attempting to visit is in offline mode. Click here to view the site in cache. Cookies and java script must be enabled." Strangely, after changing identities, it's suddenly back online. I suspect this site is being monitored (surprise!). I hope the rest of you are here anonymously.
 

Red1966

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Theory and belief are distinct. So while I am not denying that old beliefs die slowly, beliefs are not science. cn
Sometimes what passes for science is nothing more than just belief. I know it's not supposed to work that way, but sometimes it does. Just saying.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Sometimes what passes for science is nothing more than just belief. I know it's not supposed to work that way, but sometimes it does. Just saying.
However science and "what passes for science" are also distinct. Popular digests of science are usually biased, and often in ways not obvious to outsiders.

I've been restricting myself to the science, not to its interpretation by journalists for laymen. That is indeed often suspect. cn
 

Red1966

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Sadly there's diddlers in every country. So how is shipping them to the other side of the world NOT an epic win? They should ship you to Africa when they find the bodies, you'd probably go catatonic from all the literal "spear-chuckers".
Shipping me to Ireland is out. The Constitution prohibits "cruel and unusual" punishment.
 

Red1966

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The basic difference with religion is that if you can come up with a convincing counterargument, the Big Bang theory will quietly go away. The evidence supporting it is quite real and cannot easily be explained otherwise at this time. Even Fred (the universe is timeless, dammit!") Hoyle gave up campaigning against it as the data poured in. And in this instance, intent and God are the same thing: the idea of a guiding will. cn
You're not convincing me. We don't need to disprove a theory. I doubt there is any "real" evidence of something that happened, what, 100 billion years ago. The supposed lack of any other explanation (there are other explanations, no more or less provable than this) doesn't support this one. I still think the theory is just pseudo-science.
 

Red1966

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However science and "what passes for science" are also distinct. Popular digests of science are usually biased, and often in ways not obvious to outsiders. I've been restricting myself to the science, not to its interpretation by journalists for laymen. That is indeed often suspect. cn
I work in a research lab. You would be surprised what passes for science.
 

Canna Sylvan

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Bear,

The current thinking is the big bang is wrong. It's now thought it was the big crunch. The energy was here, but no mass. Just a huge entropy. Then one day the energy slightly compressed. It then collapsed until the space could no longer. Then it bounced back.

The force of the bounce, which is currently still happening, created so much force it created all the atomic elements we have today.

Einstein gave up on quantum physics because he wrongly assumed the universe was no longer expanding.

The big bang was developed by a religious nut, after all.

The morale, never assume shit!

But, where did the energy entropy come from? If all we know about is light to see the past, how do we ever know? Also, the big bounce had to expand for a period faster than light. Otherwise the models break for relativity.

So that raises an interesting question. With enough energy space can expand faster than light. Can we exploit that to find those answers?
 

UncleBuck

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Jokes on you. I'm still Santa I just got diverted to some webpage that claimed "The site you are attempting to visit is in offline mode. Click here to view the site in cache. Cookies and java script must be enabled." Strangely, after changing identities, it's suddenly back online. I suspect this site is being monitored (surprise!). I hope the rest of you are here anonymously.
site probably just went down for a second, happens all the time. but coupled with your other nonsense, you do sound like a snitch.

We neither need nor care about your "consent". Resistance is futile.
and if you think tor makes you unfindable, all i can do is laugh. you've given away plenty of personal info about yourself, stormfront red.
 

UncleBuck

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Bear,

The current thinking is the big bang is wrong. It's now thought it was the big crunch. The energy was here, but no mass. Just a huge entropy. Then one day the energy slightly compressed. It then collapsed until the space could no longer. Then it bounced back.

The force of the bounce, which is currently still happening, created so much force it created all the atomic elements we have today.

Einstein gave up on quantum physics because he wrongly assumed the universe was no longer expanding.

The big bang was developed by a religious nut, after all.

The morale, never assume shit!

But, where did the energy entropy come from? If all we know about is light to see the past, how do we ever know? Also, the big bounce had to expand for a period faster than light. Otherwise the models break for relativity.

So that raises an interesting question. With enough energy space can expand faster than light. Can we exploit that to find those answers?
you and stormfront red should get together and educate all these scientists on evolution and the big bang and climate change.

i don't think they know about this "water vapor" you speak of. get on it, rebecca.
 
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