Organic Growing Made Easy & Fox Farms Ocean Forest!

[timbo666]

I personally use it right out of the bag, seed to finish. no issues at all. I start using grow big by fox farms about 3rd week from sprout. veg 6-7 weeks, start using big bloom first few weeks flower every other watering, then switch to straight tiger bloom for the last 3-4 weeks. averaged 3 oz a plant dry 7~ week veg time under a 1000w hps 5g buckets. transplanting isn't necessary in my opinion. it's nice,but if you're lazy and aren't growing commercially, there's no harm in going ol' natural.

 

[Sincerely420]

I personally use it right out of the bag, seed to finish. no issues at all. I start using grow big by fox farms about 3rd week from sprout. veg 6-7 weeks, start using big bloom first few weeks flower every other watering, then switch to straight tiger bloom for the last 3-4 weeks. averaged 3 oz a plant dry 7~ week veg time under a 1000w hps 5g buckets. transplanting isn't necessary in my opinion. it's nice,but if you're lazy and aren't growing commercially, there's no harm in going ol' natural.

Thx 4 sharing bro! And thx again for doing so in detail so there's no questions lol!
And cheers to success!

PS, Commercial growers everywhere are going organic lol! You ain't know?!
A good organic soil should do hydro numbers all day in theory!

 

[SOMEBEECH]

You can really push the limits in hydro as far as PPM,Dont see organics in soil able to keep up.
Beech

 

[Sincerely420]

I got a lot more learning to do bossman, but If I'm on the right track we should be seeing it by the end of the year.
I figure a couple grows in recycled soil, after being lightly amended maybe twice, won't have to be amended anymore,
and the soil should be so teaming with life that EVERYTHING should be operating as maximum efficiency.
I headed more towards the soil biology side of things as we speak captain.
I'm working! And headed back to the basics for the answers!

 

[timeout]

What's the runoff PH of straight FFOF vs your mixture? How much did you boost the PH with your additions?

I tested what drained off my FFOF soil using 6.7ph RO water. 6.5 on the nose. This was after six weeks of using the soil, but I'm still a bit suspicious. My two jock horror have nipped tips after I used a mere 10% week 6 Foxfarm nute regime. I don't know. It might be a bit late for the soil to have an effect, but I don't know.

 

[Sincerely420]

http://faq.gardenweb.com/faq/lists/organic/2002082739009975.html

 

[Shwagbag]

http://faq.gardenweb.com/faq/lists/organic/2002082739009975.html

Good post S420, that dude brews a mean batch! The fish suggestion reminded me of one of my grower friends. He used to put dead fish in the dirt for his outdoor grows, an old timer told him it was the secret to success lol. I definitely notice that I get less foam when my temps get down under 65F.

 

[stjimmyskater]

I've been doing my second grow using FFOF, and I find that my plants are looking bigger and healthier than the last one by starting nutrients at the second to last week of veg. I'm using GH Flora Nova nutes (Using Lucas Formula and a PPM meter to get an accurate gauge of how much nutes I'm ggiving the plants) and things seem to be going well. Some lower leaves having issues due mainly to lack of light, but otherwise they're looking good, IMO. Picture is day one of flowering, 3 days ago.

 

[Sincerely420]

Thanks for the post brother! Thanks for sharing!
And my, what a very nice plant you have there haha!

But a couple question?
What is she? How long have you vegged her for, and under what lights are you flowering?!
Nice job, and thanks again bro

 

[Sincerely420]

Good post S420, that dude brews a mean batch! The fish suggestion reminded me of one of my grower friends. He used to put dead fish in the dirt for his outdoor grows, an old timer told him it was the secret to success lol. I definitely notice that I get less foam when my temps get down under 65F.

I didn't know that you could get the AACTs to work like bottle nutes bro! I knew for sure that the bennies reproduced within the AACT, but had no idea that while doing so, make the nutrients that we put inside soluble!
This means that we are getting more nutritional value out of our teas that we think! I mean I thought it was the way things worked, given the fact that I'd get slight burn from some AACT use, but I wasn't sure.

Well now I am bro! So it's def. time to push in with experimenting to find the perfect veg and flower AACTs!
We'll get there in a timely fashion!

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[Shwagbag]

That's exactly right S420! That is the concept of using AACT. In between tea applications I like to bubble my straight water to try and keep the herd moving too. Not sure if it helps but hydro uses the same concept with ebb and flow, dwc etc. I figure the roots like the oxygen along with the microbiology that the organic compounds need the help from.

 

[SOMEBEECH]

I check all my AACT PPMs,as well as PH.Im using some Black Kow compost,FE,EC,and a little M.
Started with a PPM of around 500 for seedlings and now there almost 20days old get RT at 1000PPM.
They are really loving the AACT 420Will,Thanks for getting me on the RT track with the Teas!!
Beech

 

[Sincerely420]

Preeshhh fellaz
Personally, I'm motivated by both of ya'll to get better at my craft! It's nice to be able learn from you and help you learn at the same time haha.
That's what is all about!
The main benefit of growing organic is its ease and simplicity of course, but why not turn it up a bit if we can right?!
Get closer to finding out why they say organic yields can compete with those of hydro!
I think we might be on to something! Not that it ain't something somebody out there probably already mastered lol.

But the fact that we can fine tune our AACTs to deliver nutes is some shiiii!
Having a good soil(which of course we have) will make experimentation an option, given the fact that the soil's a buffer!
And cheers bossman! I'm just glad you're around to help me out partner! So anything I can do....You know

*edit And of course we can't be sure of what bennies we're brewing for sure without fancy equipment yadayadayada...
We can however be sure of how to mix what we need to get where we wanna be, and let the plants show us wassup!

 

[SOMEBEECH]

Coco medium, organics with your recipe or tweaked some,I bet you get close to hydro yields.....
Feeding, would have to be Dialed in to the Tea,Haha....
Something to think about?
Beech

 

[Sincerely420]

To the tea haha #nice

 

[Shwagbag]

Coco medium, organics with your recipe or tweaked some,I bet you get close to hydro yields.....
Feeding, would have to be Dialed in to the Tea,Haha....
Something to think about?
Beech

I agree. I read some really nice soil mixes from urban gardener a cpl years ago that used, peat, coco, little hydroton cubes and perlite. I don't think they added organics to the substrate but with added lime and some tea it seemed to have nice potential. It seemed to be more geared towards synthetic nutrients initially.

I haven't played much with coco other than what's in the bags of store mix I've bought, but I would love to do a small hydro flood and drain someday with coco chunk. 1 gallon airpots SOG method like Al. B Fuct would be so much fun in a perpetual, but non organic of course.

Roots Organics makes a nice coco premix that I bought and never really used much. Something about coco being picky with PH scares the shit out of me, I've grown so accustomed to organic growing that it seems too simple to change now.

I have 6-8 bags of shit I bought over the past few years including a super soil from northern Michigan which I have yet to try. I have about 15-20 gallons of Sub's mix left, nearly time to whip up a new batch of mix. I'm hoping for the weather to break here soon so I can mix it outside, I don't care to do it in my garage with dust masks. I'm going pro-mix base too and I can just picture the airstorm that shit is going to create lol.

 

[Sincerely420]

Haha nice Swag!

And I was gonna go ahead an give Fox Farm Happy Frog a shot just to do it, but I decided against it for a few reasons, and one of those was because it wasn't soil based. The others were the pH being less stable due to the coir, and the fact that I felt I should build on what I've started and see where I can take it ya know?!
The FFOF is pretty much my source of compost in my soil mix, and given the fact that it's loaded with so much in the bag already made it an easy choice!
And I'm glad I started with organics too man. I couldn't imagine it being more easy man. I'm gonna post some pics of my 2nd gen girls here haha just to give to to the second batch i whipped up.
They're literally PERFECTLY green man! I'm banking on them staying that way thruout!

I'm working on a soil recycling project tho bro, so by the time it's all said and done, ain't none of "us" gonna be buying soil ever again haha.
Just letting it get fine with time like wine! Watch me work!

 

[Shwagbag]

Haha nice Swag!

And I was gonna go ahead an give Fox Farm Happy Frog a shot just to do it, but I decided against it for a few reasons, and one of those was because it wasn't soil based. The others were the pH being less stable due to the coir, and the fact that I felt I should build on what I've started and see where I can take it ya know?!
The FFOF is pretty much my source of compost in my soil mix, and given the fact that it's loaded with so much in the bag already made it an easy choice!
And I'm glad I started with organics too man. I couldn't imagine it being more easy man. I'm gonna post some pics of my 2nd gen girls here haha just to give to to the second batch i whipped up.
They're literally PERFECTLY green man! I'm banking on them staying that way thruout!

I'm working on a soil recycling project tho bro, so by the time it's all said and done, ain't none of "us" gonna be buying soil ever again haha.
Just letting it get fine with time like wine! Watch me work!

I did some soil recycling last year and it worked pretty well. I didn't add enough organic amendments though as I ended up with more mix than I expected lol. The thread I'm basing my next mix off from also had a recycling section, the source is from another link I found quite awhile back from "Three little birds".

RECIPE #4
Three Little Birds Method
40 gallons used soil
4 cups alfalfa meal
4 cups bone meal
4 cups kelp meal
4 cups powdered dolomite lime
30 pound bag of earthworm castings . . .
That’s the basic recipe . . .
However we also like to use
4 cups of Greensand
4 cups of Rock Phosphate
4 cups of diatomaceous earth

 

[Sincerely420]

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Shwagbag again." WTF lol do I not look around on RIU enough anymore damn lol?!

But yup, I'm building my next mix in pretty similar proportions with pretty similar things!
Cheers for that post bro! I'll be sure to share when I've cheffed my mix up bro

 

[Sincerely420]

http://www.finegardening.com/how-to/articles/soil-amendments.aspx