iv tried im about to just toss them

[viper2020cobra]

Nothing I do seems to correct them and there very behind at this point and I'm tired of messing with them

I've tried just about everything does anyone have any good ideas

Compare these several small ones to this in my opinion good big nice plant

 

[THC...MATOES]

they look fine, maybe a little over watered. your post doesn't really ask a question though. how old are these plants?

 

[viper2020cobra]

Why do they look like crap. And they have stopped growing.

They broke ground on the 17th of last month

And there in coco coir and have decent roots its almost impossible to over water at this point or should be. They get 8oz of water a day and there in a 2 litter

 

[viper2020cobra]

And the little crappy looking ones have better roots then the large good one

 

[cannabineer]

Do your "pots" have drain holes? I see overwatering, probable drowned roots, and possible malnutrition issues from that mystery medium.
If your water cannot drain, and your medium cannot breathe, that is how i would expect your plants to look. I'd consider repotting into small cloth "air pots". These can be rescued. cn

 

[captaingreenthumb]

I bet if you quit watering every day, maybe change that to every 5-7 days, they will start improving. Are you feeding them yet?

 

[viper2020cobra]

Of course it has drain holes and nope not feeding. And I have tried going 4 days no water already and nothing changed

And all of them get treated the same makes no since that half have problems and half are healthy and growing good

 

[cannabineer]

Of course it has drain holes and nope not feeding. And I have tried going 4 days no water already and nothing changed

No offense intended. i had to ask.

I will say that roots hate light. Repotting into dark pots will work well for you.

Other than that, I'd be sure that pH and nutrient ratios are good. A pH meter isn't essential but useful. A TDS meter is much more useful ... if your effluent has high TDS that shows you something that needs fixing asap.

What is the medium? cn

 

[viper2020cobra]

There in coco coir and I've painted the outside of the pots black works for hempys should work for me?...

And I pH water to 5.8 I have a pH meter but not a ppm

And i took no offince

 

[cannabineer]

I'm in soilless also. I've found that with the strain I'm running, the plants are happiest at 6.20 feed and a TDS of 500 to 600. Babies like yours I'd feed no hotter than 350ppm (ec 0.5). This is my experience, mind you, and it might not apply.
Whose/which nutrients are you running? cn

 

[viper2020cobra]

I haven't given them any nutes yet but plan to use maxibloom

 

[cannabineer]

With coco, I recommend a complete hydroponic formula. Before mixing my own, I used GH Flora 3-part. A friend who grows in ProMix Advanced (coir-based) is getting solid results with DynaGro plus Cal-mag. A TDS meter is very much your friend when growing soilless or hydro. I use mine to monitor effluent. When effluent TDS match what you put in ... you've found the plants' sweet spot at that point in their growth cycle.

MaxiBloom is not a complete hydro nutrient; it's meant as a soil supplement. Imo your urgent purchases right now are a TDS meter and a veg nutrient for hydroponic or soilless apps. Some firms make coco-specific nute packages.

The thing I have not yet mentioned is water quality. I use my TDS meter to check my water quality. it changes seasonally. Right now it's a very nice 50ppm indicated.
If your water is very hard ... or worse, contains sodium (say from a brackish municipal supply, a Southwestern well or (gasp!!) a water softener), you need to filter it, or find a better water source. cn

 

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Nothing I do seems to correct them and there very behind at this point and I'm tired of messing with them

I've tried just about everything does anyone have any good ideas

Compare these several small ones to this in my opinion good big nice plant

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get clones and or seedlings in containers that have no light leak. water plants when needed. (theyre overwatered IMO) also use decent soil. what are you using.?

 

[viper2020cobra]

get clones and or seedlings in containers that have no light leak. water plants when needed. (theyre overwatered IMO) also use decent soil. what are you using.?

See this is why I never can solve this problem no body ever pays attention to the thread or even reads

 

[cannabineer]

See this is why I never can solve this problem no body ever pays attention to the thread or even reads

I did. Tell me what you think. cn

 

[viper2020cobra]

Yes not referring to you canna.

Okay this is the rundown

There 15 days old from breaking ground
There in 100% coco coir (good coco coir)
Lightproof pots
Have drain holes
Day time temps are 77 degrees and 57% humidity
Night Tim is 60 degrees and higher humidity like 77-80%
For 2 days I've been running them 24/7 to see if the nighttime temps and humidity were the problem. No change from it

They have nice roots and are 15 days old it would be very hard to over water in coco coir at this age especially considering when I do water its only 8oz
I've also tried going 4 days no water and no change
I pH the water to 5.8ph
I've tried tap water store bought water and no change
I'm not giving them any nutes

I've got 14 seedlings going 8 are shit and 6 are awesome.

I'm lookin I guess for what can appear to be over watering but be something else because I'm 90% sure its not over watering to explain why 8 of them look like crap where as 6 look amazing and there all treated the same and are from the same seed packs

 

[cannabineer]

What I have noticed with both seeds and clones in soilless (I am using ProMix) is that the transition from healthy to badly undernourished was fast and severe. I don't think you can make coco work for you without the right sort of nutrient: a complete formula for hydro or specific to coco. I rescued my famine cases by feeding veg formula consistently at "regular" strength; no shock treatments. cn