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experimantal bag seed grow for your average grower

longdogin

New Member
so i decided to grow some bag seeds that i had laying around. its not my first time planting something but ive never grown from start to finish.im going to grow them in a way that your average joe could grow something aswell. i will be posting pictures as it goes, any advise is welcome but i do kinda already have a plan. if it works it works if it doesnt it doesnt.
so heres my plan. (srry if theirs alot of typos, im used to having spell check)
im not going for huge yields or some cant get off the couch shit (just a heads up)
  • ive taken 2 random bag seeds and soaked them for 24hrs in filtered water. just your standard britta/pure pitcher out of the fridge.
  • after the soak i put them into a wet (not soaked) paper towel. then it went into a bowl with a dry towel over it. i checked on it every 12hrs or so to see if the seeds had began to germinate and to make sure my paper towel wasnt dry.
  • once the seeds cracked and the little white root started to come out i placed it into a plantabe seed starter pot just benith the soil. the soil that im useing is just a mix of peat moss and miricle grow organic potting mix. also i dont trust that these pots will biodegrade as fast as i wanted them to so i dut some holes in the bottom.
  • after planting i put them in a box ontop of the fridge to sprout.(it took about a day or two)
  • once sprouted i put them under a small grow light about 6-8 inches above the little ladies(hopefully)
and heres were im at curently.
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the sprout in the back is acually an edemame plant, i had the space so i figured why not. healthy munchies
i will try to add more to the discription shortly,also i will be adding pictures periodicly hopefully they come out a good size
 

AimAim

Well-Known Member
Was there a question here? Or just a story?

About all I can tell you is the peat pots are fine. Once you go up to your next sized pot the roots will shoot right on through as if the pot was not even there.
 

longdogin

New Member
and if anyone has any information about why the smaller sprout is lime green instead of dark green, that would be helpful. ive never seen that
 

longdogin

New Member
so its been a few days and the roots started to come out of the bottoms of the cups, i went ahead and transplanted them into the 1 gollon pots i plan on useing. they have the same soil mix however i added perlite to keep the soil from compressing. also i switched from my grow light to my led ufo. unfortunelty they seem to be drooping a little after a day and im not sure why. any ideas.i dont think i over watered but to be safe im not going to water them for a little and see what happends
in the last picture i usually have the light closer i just had it raised up when i took the picture
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althor

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Do you have any idea where the bag originated? Is it seeds you found out of medicinal or from something like Mexican brick?
The reason I ask is because if it IS Mexican brick there is a likely chance you will end up with a sativa. If that is the case then be prepared for it to attempt to grow out of control.
 

longdogin

New Member
its out of mexican, but good mexican,not that shitty commpressed thin stuff, however i decided to experiment with some things so what i did was left one under the led and the other i put back under the grow bulb. after a couple of hours the one under the bulb seemed to perk up. so i looked around on the internet and found some information that some lights can be tooo bright and can cause the droopyness. aparently if the led is over 90w (witch myne is 135w) it may need to be more than 12 inches away, i had myne sitting almost right ontop of them. thanks for the feed back ill throw some more pics up in a day or 2 to see what happeneds
 

althor

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If it was Mexican just keep in mind that it is possible for them to stretch and stretch and stretch. If you get one like that you will need to tie it down and work with it to keep it controlled. Also, sativas like that tend to have windows when they are ready to be harvested. It will only give you a couple of days then burst into new growth so if you arent prepared to catch it during that window it might be another 2 weeks before the next window opens.
 

longdogin

New Member
If it was Mexican just keep in mind that it is possible for them to stretch and stretch and stretch. If you get one like that you will need to tie it down and work with it to keep it controlled. Also, sativas like that tend to have windows when they are ready to be harvested. It will only give you a couple of days then burst into new growth so if you arent prepared to catch it during that window it might be another 2 weeks before the next window opens.
Ok thars good to no, i didnt no that. Hopefully i make it that far. Do you no what size magnifying glass to use to check the trichomes, i know you harvest when their 50% amber 50% cloudy. But im not sure what x magnification to use
 

longdogin

New Member
alright heres my updatde on the little ones. aparently the leds are too bright. putting them under the bulb perked them back up. both seem to be healthy even after i had too much to drink and knocked one over (smart right) but it has been replanted and seems to be doing just fine.i think what im going to do is hang the led high in the apace to see what happeneds
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longdogin

New Member
alright the little ones have made it a week. their both starting to get their second set of leaves.(i thought they would be bigger but i guess not) I decided to do 2 things, the first thing was to construct a grow box so that when the time comes i can use a carbon filter to filter the smell if any it was made from things found at homedepot such as 1x2 pieces of wood, small screws, duck tape and plastic sheeting. i had to order the fan and filter, wich i have not done yet after. constructin it i realized i made a mistake messuring so it became a bright pink nightlight. so i just use some foil to make some pannels and held them on the plastic with duck tape. the second thing was i decided to introduce some nutes, i looked around on the internet and saw some people using tomato food, and regular plant food. i decided to go with the regular plant food but only use it at 1/4 strenght because the plants are still young. also remember the soil mix im useing is organic so my understanding is that it does not have nutes on it already. the instructions say 1/2 teaspoon per 2 quarts. i did myne in litters so it turned out to be about 1ml per 2 litters. hopefully when i wake up and their not dead.
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longdogin

New Member
well the plants turned 2 weeks old today their still alive, however it lookes like i had a bit of a heat issue and i put the light to close again so they statred to droop. i moved the light and will take some pictures once they spring back to life.(if they do)
 

longdogin

New Member
so their not the fastest growing things ever but their growing.this could be because of 2 reasons 1 soil just grows slower than soilless and hydro, and 2 the leds i belive are more based on flowering. but im sticking with them untill the start to thrive or die i dont care. they started to get their 3rd set of leaves and those little leaves that grow under the second set.
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Dannysayo

Active Member
Well bro, I wish I could upload pics from my phone. I started a grow on march 6th. Very simlar to you but I used 10different seeds I got from differ buds I bought to smoke. I used solo cups for there first home. They will live there fot 1 month before transplant to a new home. I keep all ten in a cooler with 2 26watt/1750 cool bulbs glaring down. No nutr added.yet. I used miracle grow moisture control potting mix(helps with over n under waterings) and mixed that wigh a simple seed starter mix($1.99 a bag). Its consists of perlite n some other simple stuff for aeration. For when/if the make it there month, 1 week after transplanting(week 6) I will induce 12/12 schedule and begin leechin "orchid bloom booster 11/35/15" more n more to match desired strenghts n needs of the trees. I am 100% cfl grower. Just my style. Obtw when introduced to 12/12 cycle, they will be under 8-26watt/1750lumen warm bulbs in differ locations w/ flowering area rapped in mylar and foil. I have a simple air purifier running a constant breeze on the plants. Total money spent on everything. Aprox 100 bucks at the MOST.
 

Dannysayo

Active Member
I am goin to stay in tune w/ you my friend. As your grow is interesting. I will be working on getting my cpu up so I csn share pics w/ you as well. But your plants seem fine to me. I had a fem who is in flower as we speak look n act like your babies when she was small. Shes an unknow strain and amazes me everyday when I check on her.
 

longdogin

New Member
Thanks brah, hopefully it turns well. Ill through something up every week or so to show progress. And i acually have another seedling in a soiless mix of 50/50 perlite and peatmoss in a solo cup right now. That one is under a cfl and im gunna use it as a comparison. I only plan on using the led to flower it because i think thats the leds real function
 

longdogin

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Rambo3000

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Ok thars good to no, i didnt no that. Hopefully i make it that far. Do you no what size magnifying glass to use to check the trichomes, i know you harvest when their 50% amber 50% cloudy. But im not sure what x magnification to use
30x works fine for me. Hope you make it that far :leaf:
 
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