Enough cfl?

Serper

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its a 2x2x6 cabinet. im planning on putting five 20w 6500k daylight cfl for veg and one 150w hps for flowering. are the cfls enough?
 

Dr.Green

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the cfl's should give off enough light to grow, however, if you're just doing one or two at a time I would use the 150w after the plants are about 6in tall.

just my .02

oh yeah....a 2x2x6 grow box with a 150 will still get really hot..something to mull on
 

Serper

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do you guys think that i should be doing an all cfl grow from start to finish? heat is my problem because of the small space...
 

wackymack

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use cfls for your first grow so that way you make sure u dont screw up and get the lights too close,cfls its almost impossible to get heat burn,but if ur experinced enough then go 18/6 for veggin wit cfls and 12/12 wit the hps.
 

TikiHutCrew420

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i have 2 - 42w CFL and 6 - 23w cfls

should i use the 2-42watt'ers as top light and then the 6- 23watt'ers as side lights to make sur emy plants get enough lighting.

i have 3 plants to worry about in a small area and please dont say go HPS or MH i dont have that kinda loot
 

nickfury510

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its a 2x2x6 cabinet. im planning on putting five 20w 6500k daylight cfl for veg and one 150w hps for flowering. are the cfls enough?
get rid of the cfls and use the hps for the full cycle.....you will be alot happier come harvest:mrgreen:
 

wackymack

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dude hes a first time grower so if he goes with a hps,he might burn the ho,so its best to do a cfl for the first grow or so.
 

FullMetalJacket

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dude hes a first time grower so if he goes with a hps,he might burn the ho,so its best to do a cfl for the first grow or so.
I dont know about that logic...

Since he is a first time grower maybe he should grow outside too so he doesnt burn that house down.... People make growing sound so difficult...
 

Serper

Active Member
is it okay to use 150w hps with floodlight housing? by the way my grow will be mini thunderfuck from dutchbreed
 

wackymack

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u need a ballast to match the bulb,or look on the grow faqs and do this option...........................
How do I convert a home security light into a remote ballast grow light

How do I convert a home security light into a remote ballast grow light ?

For some reason growlight manufacturers are completely ignoring the small, personal grower. A quick look around Overgrow and you can see some very respectable bud being grown under 150's, and even 70 watt HPS lights. But the smallest ready made remote ballast growlight you can buy is a 250 watter, and they usually cost well over $150 (US).

So, as usual in the medicinal herb growing world, you need to take matters into your own hands.

Here’s how to turn a 150 watt HPS security light available at most Home improvment stores, into a nice remote-ballast grow light.



Materials & Tools:

MATERIALS
Regent GT150H, (About $79)
Heavy Duty extension cord of suitable length
One heavy duty grounded electrical plug end (male)
Electrical box
Electrical box plate
Romex cable connectors (3)
Wire nuts
Bolts, nuts washers
Strip of metal to secure ballast
Project case from Radio Shack ($6.99) #270-253A

TOOLS
5/16 nut driver (for removing parts from the casing -- regular pliers will work)
Philips head screwdriver
Regular screwdriver
Hammer
Power drill and assorted bits
Metal file
Wire cutters
Utility knife or wire stripper
Diagonal Pliers
Pliers

Wiring Diagram
Be careful...



Remove guts

Remove the guts from the casing - bulb socket, ignitor, light sensor socket, ballast. The ballast was glued to the casing. I heated the casing for a couple of minutes on an oven burner (high), and when it was getting too hot to hold, I put it on the floor and wedged a hammer between the ballast and casing and popped it out gently.



REMOVE LIGHT SENSOR

These security lights are designed to automatically turn on when it gets dark, so there is a built in light sensor that needs to be removed.

Remove all wire nuts.

Disconnect the white wire that comes out of the sensor (currently connected to all 3 other white wires).

Disconnect the black wire that comes out of the sensor (currently connected to the black “power in” wire).

The red wire coming out of the sensor is currently connected to the black wire coming out of the ballast. Remove the red wire, and then connect the black wire coming out of the ballast to the black “power in” wire.

Reattach wire nuts (there were 5 originally, now you only need 4).

Refer to the wiring diagram!



WIRE THE SOCKET

The socket on this particular light had some metal wiring connectors that stuck up and made it impossible to attach to the electrical plate without some modification (sorry no photo). Just pull the black and white wires off of the connectors, and cut the connectors down flush with socket base with diagonal pliers. Now loosen the connectors (screws inside the socket), slip the wires under them and tighten them back down. Please use some plastic electrical tape on the end of the socket to prevent any chance of the metal from the connectors making contact with the electrical box cover plate.

Secure the cord in the electrical box with a romex cable connector and wire it to the socket: black to black, white to white, secure with wire nuts. Some electrical boxes have a green screw inside to fasten ground wires, use that if yours has one, otherwise fasten the green ground wire to the box using one of the cover plate screws when you tighten the cover plate.



WIRE THE REMOTE BALLAST

Hopefully you can see the wiring clearly in the photo, but if not, refer to the wiring diagram for details.

You’re going to have to cut some holes in the Radio Shack project box for the power cords and some bolts to hold the ballast, ignitor and ground wires down.

I used a short length of metal (plumbing department) to secure the ballast. The ignitor had a notch that made it easy to bolt down. The ground wires from both electrical cords are screwed to the base of the box.

Cut a short length off the socket (female) end of the extension cord and wire it appropriately (again - see diagram). Wire the remaining electrical cord, including the grounded male plug to the other end of the box.

Use a tie wrap to bundle up the wires in the box and try to keep them away from the ballast, which will heat up during use.



TEST IT!
If you've done everything right, it should light.



Now, build a reflector and you’ve got a nice little custom grow light.

Safety Warnings:
Always wire the male plug to the bulb socket and the female receptacle to the ballast to avoid possible electrocution! Always use an all metal project box which already has ventilation cooling slots, or if your project box has none, please cut adequate cooling slots, or drill several vent holes in the ballast enclosure (project box) to allow the heat to escape the box. Not adding the cooling slots or holes, could result in failure of the insulation and/or the transformer. Also, please be sure the enclosure is located in a well ventilated area to aid cooling.
Added on: Friday, February 16, 2007 Viewed: 1695 times
 

FullMetalJacket

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Holy shit...that conversion process is no joke lol. I would be nervous doing that. Has anyone had sucess with this? Wacky that is a great DIY...
 

wackymack

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thats what im doin when i get back to work and get money rollin in again.it will give me a better harvest.then that way ill have a hps for flowering and a 125w cfl for veggin and cloning.
 
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