friend hardcore defoliated couple plants... need some input

[dopeboi69]

UB's O Haze... I wouldn't call that average bud.

I like how you guys act like there isn't 10,000 other people who do the exact same thing and even better every 2 weeks.........
But whatever, the closed mindset is why we are typing on our computers in the first place. So it's not like anything is gonna change.

 

[HeartlandHank]

I like how you guys act like there isn't 10,000 other people who do the exact same thing and even better every 2 weeks.........
But whatever, the closed mindset is why we are typing on our computers in the first place. So it's not like anything is gonna change.

dopeboi, you are making assumptions. . it's clearly a very pure sativa. BX from O Haze, so he says, but i believe him. There is nothing "average" about that. That's all I'm saying.

 

[shnkrmn]

someone who admits to liking Toni basil,lol

/facepalm... lets just keep this between us... haha

Well, she was awesome in Easy Rider:

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[Bud Brewer]

That Haze uncle Bmeat grew outside all year it could have been a massive tree but it wasn't because he topped it he got four nice colas in a whole season better call guinness.

Just have to remind everbody ub defoliated half a plant once and didn't notice a difference now that makes him an expert.

 

[ricky6991]

Ok to get this thread back on track... seems to be getting bigger leafs than few days ago. Thats plus. Buds have moved towards light deffinetly. No difference in bud growth though. Bottom buds that were prett much hairs have gotten some thickness but nothing to noticeable... updated my thread in hydro section with alot of pics.
This is week 4 day 5... plenty of time left i guess. I did lower nutrient levels too

 

[ricky6991]

**Read, what Rosenthal wrote, makes sense. But let me get back to the OPs reason for starting this tread.. His homie applied "unplanned extreme defoliation"--- that is whats not making any sense to me, not the practice of systematic leaf pruning for planned canopy management What his friend did, most likely will not help the overall finish~ Unless.. Cannabis can use it's root system like some parasitic plants (achieving all energy requirements from the roots), when the fan leaves were removed, then I guess it might be plausible~ But I doubt it..

He was reading the post about defoliation on that other forum its the only write i have found for defoliating really. It says to completely remove ALL fan leafs. So its not leaf management like you said. The defoliating way is to remove all fan leafs every so often... doing canopy management isnt really defoliating cause most people do that anyways... what you said about the roots system is prett much what the guy doing write up was descibing DOES happen an why they are not needed in flowering.

 

[skunkd0c]

Why have my posts been selectively removed from this thread ?
moderators you really need to remain impartial even when your boy is getting a slap
what happened to freedom of speech ?

this thread has been selectively edited by moderators in an attempt to favour friends of moderators
what a shame the game was rigged from the start tut tut @ mods

 

[Alexander Supertramp]

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UB

Now thats some bad ass shit....

edit:the gliding video is what I meant.....

 

[skunkd0c]

Now thats some bad ass shit....

Tor is quite useful but painfully slow, many folk still like to encrypt any sensitive data before they send it
sending a home address or anything sensitive over TOR will be seen as plain text at the TOR exit node
you can use PGP or something similar to encrypt sensitive data if you are extra paranoid before you send it over TOR

peace

 

[cannawizard]

Why have my posts been selectively removed from this thread ?
moderators you really need to remain impartial even when your boy is getting a slap
what happened to freedom of speech ?

this thread has been selectively edited by moderators in an attempt to favour friends of moderators
what a shame the game was rigged from the start tut tut @ mods

--Just wanna say its not me doing the editing

 

[cannawizard]

He was reading the post about defoliation on that other forum its the only write i have found for defoliating really. It says to completely remove ALL fan leafs. So its not leaf management like you said. The defoliating way is to remove all fan leafs every so often... doing canopy management isnt really defoliating cause most people do that anyways... what you said about the roots system is prett much what the guy doing write up was descibing DOES happen an why they are not needed in flowering.

--Been looking at that factoid about other plants, and Cannabis root system might actually have that trait (not sure, but i'm betting its a good place to start looking)

 

[skunkd0c]

--Just wanna say its not me doing the editing

Its sad these threads always end up the same way whatever site they are on

personally i do not think these plants look that great, they look skinny to me, lol he claims 10-12 oz
they look smaller than that to me , anyway
maybe this is where some folk got their ideas from
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=174163

still even though i do not think it is a good idea to pick all the leaves off myself, i still like to see folk experiment
i do not understand why all the scientist's among us throw a fit, what other folk do with their plants is none of their businesses especially if they are not asking for help
if the guy is happy with his results let him be

perhaps it is just as case of some folk having the know-it-all mentality being compelled to give advice

[video=youtube;nkZdTHmX0TQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkZdTHmX0TQ[/video]


peace

 

[chuck estevez]

Its sad these threads always end up the same way whatever site they are on

personally i do not think these plants look that great, they look skinny to me, lol he claims 10-12 oz
they look smaller than that to me , anyway
maybe this is where some folk got their ideas from
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=174163

still even though i do not think it is a good idea to pick all the leaves off myself, i still like to see folk experiment
i do not understand why all the scientist's among us throw a fit, what other folk do with their plants is none of their businesses especially if they are not asking for help
if the guy is happy with his results let him be

perhaps it is just as case of some folk having the preacher mentality being compelled to give advice when its clearly not warranted

[video=youtube;nkZdTHmX0TQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkZdTHmX0TQ[/video]


peace

or maybe, just maybe, he has seen it a thousand times from every NEW grower that thinks they reinvented the wheel and figures if he can teach one, it's worth the fighting. I for one have saved hundreds,if not thousands following ub's advise.

 

[skunkd0c]

or maybe, just maybe, he has seen it a thousand times from every NEW grower that thinks they reinvented the wheel and figures if he can teach one, it's worth the fighting. I for one have saved hundreds,if not thousands following ub's advise.

like i said it makes no sense to get upset about something that is not your business
i am able to disagree with people without getting upset in the process
perhaps this is more about how folk conduct themselves and what message they send out when they display ignorance and arrogance by the truck load
if someone is failing to get his message across and is sick of helping lots of newbies with the same problem , then he can either give up. or perhaps try preaching a different gospel
either way this is none of my concern, i am not responsible for the emotional stability of strangers on the internet

i am happy you have saved money, although i am a little worried that you needed to come to a forum and ask for help in order to save thousands
are you unable to do your own research ? perhaps this is knowledge UB gave you that saved you thousands is special knowledge that only he knows ?

peace

 

[Ninjabowler]

I had a friend tell me to defol in bloom over a month in and i did it. Four plants, two different strains, 2 TW and 2SB. I did one of each. Then i cut down the four plants all at the same time and the ones that i had defoliated in bloom were very noticably lighter, not just the weight of the taken leaves either, much more.

 

[ricky6991]

They less than half way into flower... im looking for 7.5 lb total. I only need 4 to cover my expenses that built the room... i think its realistic 8oz a plant. Which is why i said i would lose a lb if these 2 plants sucked an died. These plants gets buds thick like soda bottles for tops so i know they have bunch of growing.

My stems are not super thick because they were never trained. No stress whole life. Look at people who scrog or supercrop, you always see big knuckle or thick stem. Thats all from manipulation IMO. True, if i had trained these i would get more BUT the point of these 12aret o get 4lb so just let them grow out how they wanted to cause i easily get that. I had 2 veg rooms and a matching flower room to build while these were going so didnt have much time for them.

I will easily get 10-12oz if i setup my scrog like i want to for next batch. Clones are fully rooted and monday they go in veg. Just gotta get a plan to move them from veg to flower after they started into a screen in veg room, or i do 24 in my room without scrog compared to 12 with scrog.... if i dont figure out easy solution then i wont bother scrog as even a 4lb per 12 will be fine and will get without touching them except to lollipop.

 

[ricky6991]

Btw that is the exact thread which is copy and pasted everywhere on internet lol

 

[chuck estevez]

like i said it makes no sense to get upset about something that is not your business
i am able to disagree with people without getting upset in the process
perhaps this is more about how folk conduct themselves and what message they send out when they display ignorance and arrogance by the truck load
if someone is failing to get his message across and is sick of helping lots of newbies with the same problem , then he can either give up. or perhaps try preaching a different gospel
either way this is none of my concern, i am not responsible for the emotional stability of strangers on the internet

i am happy you have saved money, although i am a little worried that you needed to come to a forum and ask for help in order to save thousands
are you unable to do your own research ? perhaps this is knowledge UB gave you that saved you thousands is special knowledge that only he knows ?

peace

when i wanted to learn to grow, a friend told me to go read everything UB posted. Good enough?

 

[HeartlandHank]

he claims 10-12 oz
they look smaller than that to me

Yeah, I said the same thing. I just don't buy it. Those plants look more like 6-7 oz.

 

[akula]

still even though i do not think it is a good idea to pick all the leaves off myself, i still like to see folk experiment
i do not understand why all the scientist's among us throw a fit, what other folk do with their plants is none of their businesses especially if they are not asking for help
if the guy is happy with his results let him be

How ironic you would wonder this in a thread that was started by a guy worried about his plants because his partner read some newbs post on defoliation ,and completely misinterpreted it, and ripped the thing to shreds. This is exactly why people ask for evidence to back the science behind an experiment prior to them writing it as the new great cannabis technique.

I am all for experimentation, but the first part of experimentation should be at least some basic research as to the science behind your hypothesis of your experiment. Especially if you are going to publish this, like cannabis grow forums, for others to read. For example; if I hypothesize that covering my plants leaves with tar and feathers may make them create a "higher" end product, I may want to at least do a simple google search to find out what function the leaves provide. In that search I will find out that leaves use a process of taking nutrients and light (called photosynthesis) to produce sugars used in the plants sinks (calyxes/buds). I might then want to rethink my experiment based on blocking part of that process to create a better end product. It doesn't take a scientist to do this. Again this is why we have fools on this forum grabbing anything from oxyclean and zoloft-piss to dump on their plants.